Feb 06 - All present and correct!

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Just for Flame

CAMERON, Birthdate 6th Jan, Due 28th Jan, Weight 5lbs 13oz, Born to Teuch, Baby no 1, Lives Inner Hebridean Island, Gas & air and morphine
PEYIA, Birthdate 23rd Jan, Due 4th Feb, Weight 6lbs 12.5oz, Born to TicTac, Baby no 1, Lives Horwich, Lancs, Gas & air only
ALEXANDER, Birthdate 24th Jan, Due 4th Feb, Weight ??, Born to Yeahbut, Baby no 3, Lives Holland, Elective c-section
CAITLIN ERIN MONICA, Birthdate 25th Jan, Due 10th Feb, Weight 8lbs 10.5oz, Born to Womba1, Baby no 3 (1 stillborn), Lives Eastbourne, Elective c-section
MAISIE, Birthdate 26th Jan, Due 7th Feb, Weight 8lbs 5.5oz, Born to ellenrose, Baby no 3, Lives Bristol, Induction due to SPD
JESSICA HELEN, Birthdate 30th Jan, Due 9th Feb, Weight 5lbs 11oz, Born to JuA, Baby no 2, Lives Chorley, Lancs, Elective c-section. Twin 1.
EMILY ROSE, Birthdate 30th Jan, Due 9th Feb, Weight 6lbs, Born to JuA, Baby no 2, Lives Chorley, Lancs, Elective c-section. Twin 2.
ELIZABETH GRACE, Birthdate 3rd Feb, Due 3rd Feb, Weight 8lbs 5oz, Born to Kando, Baby no 3, Lives Holland,
BOY, Birthdate 6th Feb, Due 12th Feb, Weight 7lbs 9oz, Born to popmum, Baby no 2, Lives Broxbourne, Herts/Essex border,
LAUREN EMMA, Birthdate 6th Feb, Due 22nd Feb, Weight 6lbs 14oz, Born to Morgan, Baby no 2, Lives Dubai,
PHILIPPA ROSE, Birthdate 8th Feb, Due 2nd Feb, Weight 9lbs, Born to Tabs, Baby no 1, Lives North Herts, TENS and gas & air
LEWIS JAMES, Birthdate 9th Feb, Due 31st Jan, Weight 9lbs 2oz, Born to Cuffyj1, Baby no 1, Lives Barnsley, emerg c-section
SETH PETER, Birthdate 9th Feb, Due 1st March, Weight 7lbs, Born to angedemarche (Jangus), Baby no 2, Lives NI, Elective c-secion
EVIE HARRIET, Birthdate 10th Feb, Due 29th Jan, Weight 9lbs, Born to Hotmama, Baby no 2, Lives Nottingham, emerg c-section
RHUARIDH GEORGE, Birthdate 11th Feb, Due 20th Feb, Weight ??, Born to MrsDoolittle, Baby no 2, Lives Newbury, Water birth
BEN, Birthdate 12th Feb, Due 2nd Feb, Weight 8lbs 4oz, Born to 3K, Baby no 1, Lives Gravesend, Kent, c-sec after failure to dilate sufficiently
OSCAR, Birthdate 12th Feb, Due 13th Feb, Weight 9lbs 10oz, Born to Chloe55, Baby no 1, Lives West Yorkshire, Pethidine, epi & lots of stitches!
BOY, Birthdate 14th Feb, Due 6th Feb, Weight 8lbs 8oz, Born to 4blue1pink, Baby no 5, Lives ??,
ANYA OLIVE CATRIONA, Birthdate 20th Feb, Due 8th Feb, Weight 7lbs 9oz, Born to Popadopalis, Baby no 1, Lives Bedford,
BRAM, Birthdate 21st Feb, Due 11th Feb, Weight 9lbs 15oz, Born to Ixel, Baby no 2, Lives N London, c-sec
IMOGEN ROSAMOND, Birthdate 23rd Feb, Due 2nd March, Weight 7lbs 9oz, Born to Ags, Baby no 2, Lives Kent, Elective c-section
EMRYS JOHN, Birthdate 24th Feb, Due 24th Feb, Weight 8lbs 5oz, Born to Flamesparrow, Baby no 2, Lives Bournemouth, Home birth
BOY, Birthdate 26th Feb, Due 18th Feb, Weight 7lbs 13oz, Born to Jasnem, Baby no 3, Lives Waltham Abbey, Rapid labour, ventouse and episiotomy
SALLY ANIELA, Birthdate 28th Feb, Due 28th Feb, Weight 8lbs 13oz, Born to Thell, Baby no 1, Lives London, Water birth at home
NEVE, Birthdate 4th March, Due 27th Feb, Weight 8lbs 11oz, Born to Frizbe, Baby no 2, Lives Ripley, Derbyshire, Water birth
ALFRED WILLIAM, Birthdate 4th March, Due 27th Feb, Weight 9lbs 15oz, Born to Helen38, Baby no 3, Lives Warwickshire,

Still missing 3 names - hope they've not been announced and I've missed them!

Chloe - it's a difficult one to decide whether he is getting enough sleep or not. I had been going by Baby Whisperer who suggests that they need 15-18hrs sleep in a 24 hr period, but then was reading in the NHS Birth to Five book that they reckon on about 12 hrs, but anything from 8 (seemed to say this was the exception) to 18 was quite normal.

Have you read Baby Whisperer at all? If your DS is seeming tired but staying awake because he doesn't want to miss anything then he may be what she refers to as a 'touchy' baby. We have classified Pippa the same way. She recommends removing all stimuli when you want him to sleep, and swaddling and saying shhhhhhh a lot. We have been trying this for the last couple of weeks and it really has made a difference, so may be worth a go if you think he isn't getting enough zzzzzzzzzz.

Yeah, actually a mumsnetter sent me it for nothing (lovely lady), it's a really good read, I think ds is sometimes a mixture of all the babies she describes but tbh I think you are probably right. I guess over the past few days ds has had a lot of stimuli, e.g. shopping trips/baby club etc whereas before I tended to not venture much further than the house. DH and I have decided as of tomorrow we will be putting ds into a routine and sticking to it. He kinda has one now but if we visit family on an evening or I have friends over then we don't always get the whole bottle/bath/bed by 8pm done which is a bit unfair on him really.

Will be on to do proper post in a bit, but wanted to say to those using reusables - make sure you are only using a teeny bit of powder, and if possible, do an extra rinse at the end of the wash... it gets all the powder out properly and makes it less likely they will get irritation. The rash can also be down to not changing soon enough after poo (proper nappy rash is caused by bacteria from poo reacting with wee) - its normally harder to smell poo through cloth, so they get left that bit longer, and that little bit extra time can be what causes it. It took a long time to work out the triggers with DD, and once we did, all was fine.

Chloe - you're 25, not 45! Don't give up on the short skirts forever if that's what you like...but being covered and relaxed may be better for the confidence in the short term

I only did the reusables in the afternoons as he's awake more and thengets changed more often. Not going to try at night 'til hes spending more time in his own bed, but will try days from tomorrow. I used terry squares with dd1 from day 3 without nappy rash so know it can be done.

I've booked an appt at the registrar for the 31st sowe'll have to decide on a name this week...Leon or Jason?????????
4b1p - your time must be nearly up...what's your boy going to be called?

Good luck with the name Jas!!!

Chloe - I echo Jas.. 25 not 45! I am a big believer in wearing whatever makes you feel happy and confident, regardless of your age or size. For now, probably the more loose casual look will cover up the bulgy bits, so it will give more confidence, but your skirt days will be back

DD was a non-day sleeper too. She would do 30-45 mins in morning, and again in afternoon... and that was it . She normally went down at 8pm (ish... I think - memory faded a lot!), had a dreamfeed at 10.30/11.30, and then would sleep through til 5.30 (that was about 8-10 weeks I recall that). She had to have some sleep during the day, and the 45 mins took a lot of work convincing her to do, but again - she just didn't want to miss out on anything!! It was hard work, and took some time to learn her signals from just awake to overtired. I read babywhisperer from cover to cover, and used the bits I agreed with, and ignored the rest. DD was (and still is) a "spirited child"... I don't have my copy any more - I can't remember the other options to find out what DS is. Looking at him I get that old soul type of feeling.

DD has gone to stay the night at Gran's, so we have one less tonight :) I'm very tired, but DS is sounding grumpy, so I don't know how much sleep I'll be getting, or if he'll be feeding all night again. At least I should get a bit of a lie in tomorrow - we've got into a great habit of me feeding him, handing him to DH, then me sleeping again til the next feed

Boy slept for 6 hours last night...so happy!

Well done boy! Was that in a single stretch, or in total throughout the night? Incrdibly impressed if in a single stretch.

In a single stretch!!
He did another 3 hours after I fed him at2 am as well.

That was our best night so far.

Fantastic - we didn't get as good a night as that until 6 weeks, and that so far has just been a one off!

DS was awake pretty much all night - either feeding or crying :( He finally gave in at 7am with swadding and me holding in a dummy, and slept till 11am (sooo glad DD was at grans!!)

Hi Girls...not gloating just saying..our boy sleeps nine hours and then a nother three most nights!!!! All of ours have been good but this is the best! I have no excuse for being as tired as i am but put it down to the fact that i pump so much in day so that we can bloat him full from a bottle at midnight! Seems to work. On thrush front -daktarin seems to have done trick in a couple of days (grr) after weeks on nystan!
Feeling much better it was getting me down.All seems to be settling but poor boy 5.5 weeks and no name!

Same here Flame I think he must be trying to get himself back onto the 50th percentile, he dropped off it after he was born and never got back. I'm sure he did have thrush in his gut because he doesn't seem to colic anymore and is happier but he feeds forever!!

Same here Flame I think he must be trying to get himself back onto the 50th percentile, he dropped off it after he was born and never got back. I'm sure he did have thrush in his gut because he doesn't seem to colic anymore and is happier but he feeds forever!!

4blue1pink If ds was sleeping like that, I'd be gloating!!

Hi girls,

Had a great night last night - had a fair bit of vodka (which I haven't drunk since before pg) but didn't feel drunk, just merry - danced, socialised, had a laugh, all just what the doctor ordered. However, the doc forgot to tell me what a hangover feels like Maybe I had more to drink than I thought!

Dh, ds and myself went swimming for the first time today at our gym which has a baby pool. Ds seemed to really enjoy himself but although the temp of the pool was 31 degrees he seemed to be pretty cold most of the time and he started getting ratty after about 15mins but it was good fun. Getting dressed was not though! And, ds is still covered in chlorine due to the fact that firstly the showers were too hot and secondly I was struggling to shower and hold him at the same time - any suggestions on easier ways for the future?

Jas - I like Leon

I'd go for Leon too.

I have such empathy for the all- clothes-look-shit thing. I am HUGE now. And have one pair of trousers, one skirt, one jumper, and two tops that are just about passable.Walked round the clothes section of Asda feeling depressed this afternoon. My 6wks is up soon, so I could start doing hill walks etc, and then get back to jogging after another 6wks... but how will I fit it in? Call me negative, but by the time dh gets home and we've put ds1 to bed and done essentials, there's only about 1/2 hr before I want to go to bed myself!And if I use that time to jog, it means sacrificng everything else that needs to get done. I've been thinking about buying a double jogger, but I never really used the single one much, and sold it, so why would a double be any different now? Prob be worse to be inspired about, as it'd be heavier! The trouble is , there's no pregnancy fat left, its all just choc and coke fat from abandoning my healthy eating. So its not going to shift itself.

I'm also feeling a bit unhappy with the breastfeeding (5wks in), as I'm still having to express and use it as top ups to satisfy him.I cant face doing that for another 5 months.

And to top it off, I got really upset the other day, when a friend and I returned to a long standing argument about how ds1 shouldn't be in a buggy anymore. He's 2 1/4, but I just cant get shopping etc done with him on the loose, esp with a baby to deal with too now, plus he gets tired and wants a carry after a while, which I also cant do with a baby and shopping bags.The difference is that the friend goes everywhere by car, and then just lets his son out for whatever activity on foot, then they get back in the car and he falls asleep on the way home. Rant, rant. Sorry! Do you think I should bite the bullet and face the tears when ds1 is too tired to walk,and chase him round when he runs off in excitement? I really didn't think he was too old for a buggy, but now I'm starting to doubt myself.

Please tell me its normal to still be crying for no reason after 5 weeks! Poor dh is taking the brunt of it when I'm in a bad mood, but he's not at home enough to feel the benefit of when I'm happy!

ixel- hv is coming at 6 weeks to do pnd assessment because it is normal to still be crying for no reason!
21/4 is not too big for the buggy...don't get rid just yet. Fine if you don't go out/ always use a car, but def not if you're on bus/shopping/walking further than the end of the road.
Would he use a buggy board? Or litaf (sp?) one? It has a seat and my dd loved it. Went to sleep on it!

I went shopping on my own today. Spent money on new tops (sick of the same few for bf) Also bought myself some flowers for mothers day

Chloe wine and swimming...sounds lovely

Leon is my top choice (now Nathan has been rules out by dp) too. Watch this space...

Vodka, not wine!

HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY!!

Ds slept for England yesterday but unfortunately by the time 3am had come he had decided he had slept enough and didn't go back to sleep! DH stayed up with him though and I have woken up to bacon butties, coffee, card and the softest dressing gown from Marks and Sparks and ds is in a really good mood

Ixel - I still have moments where I just burst into tears, I did the other day and spent all day and night in a foul mood and couldn't snap out of it no matter how hard I tried. I can sympathise with the bf thing too. Don't beat yourself up for finding it tiring and difficult, I think I couldn't accept that it wasn't as pleasant/bonding as I thought it would be. I managed 4 weeks and have now decided that I did really well for getting that far, I am proud of myself. I changed to the 'evil formula' and since then I am soooo much happier, I really enjoy feeding times - ds it so much more settled, I don't feel like I have a baby constantly attached to boob and I don't have to go through the painful, longwinded process of expressing anymore. We all know breast is best but it is more important that mum and baby are happy and contented whichever way they decide to feed. Never thought I'd be able to say that and actually believe it after how guilty I felt for weeks. Either way Ixel - do what is right for you, you have done 5 weeks so far which is fantastic and like people said to me, everyday is a bonus but don't get caught up in thinking that it is your only option.

Ixel - how does the expressed top ups work? Is it that you're just sort of running out during a feed? Sorry - I meant to ask a while ago, but something always cropped up.

I ended up sobbing hysterically yesterday because DH was trying to stop DS crying, and I could see he was tired, but DH was thinking he was windy and kept jiggling him - I ended up yelling at him to give him back because he was just making him more miserable... making DH feel like sh*t :( I was just so tired that I couldn't cope with any more crying. We ended up having a long sleep, and it helped!

Started a thread about trying to fix my righthand milk, but so far they seem to think I'm not having him in the right position, but I checked it with the HV on Thurs (should probably mention that).

Happy Mother's Day everyone!

Happy Mothers Day to all
Having a nice day here, got up after feeding dd2, had nice bath, fed her again when out of bath, then ate breakfast made by beloved dh with no interupptions from dd2! hurrah! am now the proud owner of a teddy from ss, a champagne glass with mum on it from dd1 and a new mug from dd2
Hope everyone else is having a great day

FS re the all night feeding hope ds sorts it out soon

Tabs, yeah! re Pippas new sleeping pattern, hurrah for the osteo

Mrs D, I reckon a nice new dress for you then and ditto what everyone else said for Chloe!

Jas, I like Leon, remind me of Jean Reno

4b1p you surely have the best sleeper in the world there

Ixel, tell friend to stuff it, buggy is fine, particularly if you shop by foot, dd is 2.4 and alternates between walking and front of new buggy depending on tiredness.

Happy Mother's Day.

I forgot the clocks were changing and thought that DD had done a 5 hr sleep in the night, where in fact it was only 4! We were too late to bed for a clock change night, so I went back to bed for nearly an extra 2 hrs when she did, and now have to try and rush to make it to pil for lunch. How on earth do you rush with a baby who wants to spend an hour on every feed?!!?!

Ixel- i've been worrying about you bf ing, too (at 5 this morning!)I know I really should get a life.Am also confused about the expressing. Des he take the expressed milk straight after regular feed/ Could you not just feed more often to build up supply? Sorry it's so hard for you atm...big gold star for sticking at it this long when it's so difficult. and as Chloe said, don't punish yourself if you decide mixed or formula is going to be better for you both.

Mothers day love to everyone, particularly if it's your first

Ixel- i've been worrying about you bf ing, too (at 5 this morning!)I know I really should get a life.Am also confused about the expressing. Des he take the expressed milk straight after regular feed/ Could you not just feed more often to build up supply? Sorry it's so hard for you atm...big gold star for sticking at it this long when it's so difficult. and as Chloe said, don't punish yourself if you decide mixed or formula is going to be better for you both.

Mothers day love to everyone, particularly if it's your first

Chloe - is your heating fixed?

Tabs - You can't rush. You'll just end up with a crying baby and a stressed mummy. Just ring and tell them you'll be there when you get there.