Feb 06 - All present and correct!

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Just for Flame

CAMERON, Birthdate 6th Jan, Due 28th Jan, Weight 5lbs 13oz, Born to Teuch, Baby no 1, Lives Inner Hebridean Island, Gas & air and morphine
PEYIA, Birthdate 23rd Jan, Due 4th Feb, Weight 6lbs 12.5oz, Born to TicTac, Baby no 1, Lives Horwich, Lancs, Gas & air only
ALEXANDER, Birthdate 24th Jan, Due 4th Feb, Weight ??, Born to Yeahbut, Baby no 3, Lives Holland, Elective c-section
CAITLIN ERIN MONICA, Birthdate 25th Jan, Due 10th Feb, Weight 8lbs 10.5oz, Born to Womba1, Baby no 3 (1 stillborn), Lives Eastbourne, Elective c-section
MAISIE, Birthdate 26th Jan, Due 7th Feb, Weight 8lbs 5.5oz, Born to ellenrose, Baby no 3, Lives Bristol, Induction due to SPD
JESSICA HELEN, Birthdate 30th Jan, Due 9th Feb, Weight 5lbs 11oz, Born to JuA, Baby no 2, Lives Chorley, Lancs, Elective c-section. Twin 1.
EMILY ROSE, Birthdate 30th Jan, Due 9th Feb, Weight 6lbs, Born to JuA, Baby no 2, Lives Chorley, Lancs, Elective c-section. Twin 2.
ELIZABETH GRACE, Birthdate 3rd Feb, Due 3rd Feb, Weight 8lbs 5oz, Born to Kando, Baby no 3, Lives Holland,
BOY, Birthdate 6th Feb, Due 12th Feb, Weight 7lbs 9oz, Born to popmum, Baby no 2, Lives Broxbourne, Herts/Essex border,
LAUREN EMMA, Birthdate 6th Feb, Due 22nd Feb, Weight 6lbs 14oz, Born to Morgan, Baby no 2, Lives Dubai,
PHILIPPA ROSE, Birthdate 8th Feb, Due 2nd Feb, Weight 9lbs, Born to Tabs, Baby no 1, Lives North Herts, TENS and gas & air
LEWIS JAMES, Birthdate 9th Feb, Due 31st Jan, Weight 9lbs 2oz, Born to Cuffyj1, Baby no 1, Lives Barnsley, emerg c-section
SETH PETER, Birthdate 9th Feb, Due 1st March, Weight 7lbs, Born to angedemarche (Jangus), Baby no 2, Lives NI, Elective c-secion
EVIE HARRIET, Birthdate 10th Feb, Due 29th Jan, Weight 9lbs, Born to Hotmama, Baby no 2, Lives Nottingham, emerg c-section
RHUARIDH GEORGE, Birthdate 11th Feb, Due 20th Feb, Weight ??, Born to MrsDoolittle, Baby no 2, Lives Newbury, Water birth
BEN, Birthdate 12th Feb, Due 2nd Feb, Weight 8lbs 4oz, Born to 3K, Baby no 1, Lives Gravesend, Kent, c-sec after failure to dilate sufficiently
OSCAR, Birthdate 12th Feb, Due 13th Feb, Weight 9lbs 10oz, Born to Chloe55, Baby no 1, Lives West Yorkshire, Pethidine, epi & lots of stitches!
BOY, Birthdate 14th Feb, Due 6th Feb, Weight 8lbs 8oz, Born to 4blue1pink, Baby no 5, Lives ??,
ANYA OLIVE CATRIONA, Birthdate 20th Feb, Due 8th Feb, Weight 7lbs 9oz, Born to Popadopalis, Baby no 1, Lives Bedford,
BRAM, Birthdate 21st Feb, Due 11th Feb, Weight 9lbs 15oz, Born to Ixel, Baby no 2, Lives N London, c-sec
IMOGEN ROSAMOND, Birthdate 23rd Feb, Due 2nd March, Weight 7lbs 9oz, Born to Ags, Baby no 2, Lives Kent, Elective c-section
EMRYS JOHN, Birthdate 24th Feb, Due 24th Feb, Weight 8lbs 5oz, Born to Flamesparrow, Baby no 2, Lives Bournemouth, Home birth
BOY, Birthdate 26th Feb, Due 18th Feb, Weight 7lbs 13oz, Born to Jasnem, Baby no 3, Lives Waltham Abbey, Rapid labour, ventouse and episiotomy
SALLY ANIELA, Birthdate 28th Feb, Due 28th Feb, Weight 8lbs 13oz, Born to Thell, Baby no 1, Lives London, Water birth at home
NEVE, Birthdate 4th March, Due 27th Feb, Weight 8lbs 11oz, Born to Frizbe, Baby no 2, Lives Ripley, Derbyshire, Water birth
ALFRED WILLIAM, Birthdate 4th March, Due 27th Feb, Weight 9lbs 15oz, Born to Helen38, Baby no 3, Lives Warwickshire,

Still missing 3 names - hope they've not been announced and I've missed them!

always have to do 'it' within a few weeks of delivery and then feel better about self!!! Baby sleeping well - feeling a bit blue but think its calm after storm and inevitable!

hope all well - sore wounds sound nasty!

Boy six weeks tomorrow and we are just ignoring it as he is unnmaed are expecting a telling off letter but does anyone know what will actually happen?

4b1p - I think that one of the 'authorities' can name your child if you haven't done so by 6 weeks, but not sure if they actually would in practice.

Thanks for all of your responses re sex - might make DH read the thread next time he mentions it at an inopportune moment!

Cuffy - Ds actually seemed much comfier in the travel cot because he sleeps in a star fish position and he just doesn't fit his crib well now. We bought a decent mattress to go in the cot as like you say the one that comes with it is pretty hard and I just don't particularly trust them. I am either thinking about buying a travel cot for our bedroom (instead of the crib) or putting him in the nursery in the big cot as he just bangs his arms into the bars on the crib at the moment and he won't tolerate swaddling. Is it too soon to put him in a separate bedroom at 6 weeks? They advise 6mth don't they but I can't see what difference it makes if you use a monitor, what are other peoples opinions?

Oh and Cuffy - salt water bathe your scar and if it hasn't improved by wednesday I would definitely go back to the GP, sooner if it gets worse.

Chloe - the reason (got this from a nurse) that they advise keeping them in with you until 6 months is because their lungs have to work harder if they are sharing a room with you, as the 2 (or 3 counting DH) of you are fighting for the same oxygen. This apparently makes them nice and strong. If they are in a room on their own then it is easier for them, and therefore they are more likely to forget to breathe!

I have to say that this is another of those things that I was adament I would do before I had DD, but am now wondering about. She won't fit in her basket for much longer, and am tempted to put her in her cot in her own room in a week or two, rather than try to re-arrange all the furniture to fit it in our room.

Both your DS and my DD are quite strapping, rather than being tiny frail babies, so I kind of figure their lungs are quite strong already and they should be fine on their own.

Wow - I would never had guessed that was the reason why, guess it makes sense but seems pretty far-fetched. Like you say Tabs, our LOs are probably the weight of some 3/4month old babies and I just think it would be unrealistic to keep them in a crib/moses basket until 6mths. DS is already in 3-6mth old babygros!

Chloe/Tabs - I moved dd1 into her own room when she was 16 weeks (just before I had sex again ). Be prepared to have your eyes fixed on the baby monitor all night though - I did.

Even now I check her room every time I go to the loo during the night.

Dd2 is already out of the moses basket, I have a drop-sided crib next to the bed and she is in the beloved sleeping bag so no kickiing off covers.

IMHO, many babies get moved to their own rooms before they are 6 months - like you say they are good sizes - and you will be checking every 5 minutes - but get a monitor for peace of mind.

I'm not sure when dd2 will get moved as I'm still bf, dd1 wasn't by the time she moved and dd1 wasn't waking in the night and dd2 feeds once/twice a night so uhm ....HTH

Hi ladies,

It has taken me ages to read todays messages!!

Congrats hotmama, thats great news. Look forward to hearing about wedding plans etc.

Ben is also getting too big for his moses basket and will probably be in his own cot in his nursery in a few weeks. He will be 2 months old at least by then and I'm sure he will be fine by then.

I am very proud of myself as today I managed to get into town with Ben and open his child trust fund and also have my post natal blood test, get nappies and a few other bits and get home again with Ben sleeping!!! Am allowed to drive now he is 6 weeks old. BTW they have 3 for 2 on Huggies in Boots at the moment so I stocked up!!

As for sex, not done that yet!!! My c-section scar keeps weeping and is also red, doctor said to keep cleaning it and it is a little better. Am determined not to go back on the pill as was on that for years and I'm convinced that's why it took IVF for me to get pregnant, going to try condoms and then hopefully will start for baby number 2 next summer and wont have any problems (fingers crossed)

Having Ben weighed again tomorrow, he was 10lbs 11oz last week. Chloe what is Oscar now? Our little ones share the same birthday so it's good to compare. Cant believe he is in 3-6 months clothes although Ben is long so I think he will be too!!

Re yucky scars, put some lavender oil in bath water is much better than salt need to do it every day tho.

Boy is 4 weeks, 1 day and in 3-6 month clothes. He's 11lb already! Do I win a prize for baby putting on the most/fastest weight?

I reckon Jas!!!! That's good though, shows he's thriving. I think Ben will be 11.5lbs tomorrow although last week he put on a whole pound in a week.

CONGRATULATIONS HOTMAMA DS1 & 2 in my wedding photos too - it was great.

Sex has resumed in our house but it was bordering on the ridiculous finding time when all kids finally asleep - a little bit "under starters orders" so looking forward to having a little more time. DH was a bit put off for a few weeks having viewed the stitching process at such close quarters but now all healed I have booked to have my coil fitted in a couple of weeks.

Was utterly convinced we would not have a fourth given the SPD probs but the thought of this being the last baby is pulling at the heart-strings.

Boy is Boy no more...He's Leon
I just have to get used to calling him it now.

Yay for Leon!!!

You've all been far too busy today. I left DS for a whole hour today... and was all panicky by the end of it . I was also slightly damp! There was a newborn crying with hunger in Sainsbury's, and my breasts went into overdrive - I ended up with a soggy t-shirt and no baby!!!

How come all your babies are so big?? DS is 10lb 7oz now (so not far off the 10lb 11), and is only just growing out of the 50cm size clothes - his 7.5lb adams dungarees are only fitting on the legs because the nappies make his bum so big! I think he must just have heavy bones

I've completely forgotten who else I wanted to reply to!!!!

My DDs are huge too...both tubby babies, and now slim and (very) tall. DD1 is the height of the average 8/9yr old - she"s 6.
I'm guessing Leon will be taller still, as He"s a boy.

Wanted to say about babies in your room.. Didn't know why you shopuld do it either.Both Dds were over 6 months and L will probably be 2 years as we don't have a room for him!

I was getting used to the idea of you registering him as Boy!

Think ds2 will be in our room longer than 6 months, as he's going to share a room with ds1. I dont trust him not to poke him or something, so will have to see if he's matured in 5 months time! It would be nice to get my space back in the bedroom, but also I know he's the last baby, so I have a feeling I might want to keep him in there a bit longer! Tabs... if that is the reason for sharing a room, then both my boys must have incredible lungs from fighting for oxygen with the incredible snoring dh!

Went to clinic today... he is 10lb 14ozs now. Putting on 10ozs in a week isn't bad, considering how hard its been for him up till now We also had to see the doc as his milk spots are so bad... got some cream. They're all over his face, chest, and shoulders.

Also went to Abbey to open his savings account, and the rules have changed, so they cant take our Abbey mortgage, Abbey current account, 4 Abbey savings accounts, utility bill and TSB Visa as enough proof of ID. So have to trek back up there tomorrow

Sex... never again! Only joking, but it'll def be with the lights out when we do get round to it, as I've got such an overhanging belly and big scar now. I'm VERY self conscious. And the stretchies are like a circle of weathermap icebars.
Dh is getting the snip when ds2 is about 6 months. I know we cant have any more, but I'm still feeling a bit sad about it already. Does anyone know if you can have it on the NHS without a medical rason?

Oooh, that was one of the things I meant to respond to. DD went into her own room in big cot at about 6 weeks - she was a very noisy sleeper and I was getting no sleep. I wasn't even aware at the time that you were meant to keep them with you for x amount of time!!!

No idea when DS will move - at the moment he's refusing to sleep alone, so not an issue (although DD was with us for nearly the whole 6 weeks too...). Much more lazy with everything this time round, so probably be in his own room when he's grown out of the travel cot, because neither me nor DH will be bothered to build the proper cot Really should bath this child occasionally too....

That sounds familiar. I used to bath ds1 religiously. Ds2 has only had 4 I think, in his 5 week life.That includes the one I didn't even do myself, in hospital!

My girls share a room - part of the reason DD2 was in with us for 12 months. But I had them both in cots for a while so it wasn't too unsafe when they went in together.

I'm sure your belly takes longer to recover after a cs Ixel. In fact I'm convinced mine is already better now than before I got pg this time. I could feel a 2 " gap in the muscles down the middle before, and now its 2 cm! I must have been using muscles while I was pg.
It will get better eventually

Not so hot on the bathing the baby here either he hates it and gets very sad, not a fan of having his nappy changed either, screams the house down mostly.

Am sat cuddling him as he is very sad and won't settle, have fed him and changed about 5 nappies and fed him but he just not happy. Dh has had to go into work so I'm on my own and my boobs are killing me

Was going to say stuff but screaming baby has made me forget so I'm off, night all.

yikes how many posts!
Congrats Hotmama!! wil post more later guys!

Awww, hope your boobs are feeling better Helen!

I'm tired, I wanna go to bed, but DS is trying to get himself to sleep in his cot, and his muttering is too loud for me to sleep, but not enough to warrant me interfering, so I'm hiding downstairs til he's done.

He's starting to find his thumb!!! I had a couple of sessions of holding his fist by his mouth so that he could suck it, and now he's starting to look for it himself... sometimes he gets his fingers sorted to suck his thumb, the rest of the time its the whole fist in there :)

Morning girls,

Flame - my ds does have a dummy from time to time when he won't settle but tbh most of the time he finds his fist, why is it most of us go through the whole sterilising process when our LOs are mostly attached by the mouth to hands/jumpers/toys/the dog

Jasnem - glad you opted for Leon, we had considered that name at one point too.

Ixel - I have an account with the Abbey and I find them utterly crap, it took me over a year to change to my married name on my bank account, partly because I am slack but mostly because they could never make their minds up if I needed to make a bloody appointment or I was told to bring the wrond documents....useless!!

3K - ds weighed 12lbs 2oz last wed, gonna weigh him again a week on wed.

Cuffy - If you are up for it a few mnetters are meeting for a cuppa/poss walk if weather is good this wednesday at Bretton Park, give us a shout if you are inerested and I will link the details.

Hope everyone else is well.

He settled himself in the end!

Tis my birthday!!! DD is going out from about lunchtime, and me n DS are going for lunch with my mum then shopping. My friend is cooking us a meal tonight. :)

Good morning everyone!

I'm sooo glad about the discussion re baths - I thought I was being so slack. dd1 def got more baths. Dd2 gets her face washed every day but has a bath once a week if she is lucky - thought it was just me being crap.

Flame - is it your birthday today? - I have a vague recollection that it was just after mine - if it is Happy Birthday.

Dd2's sleeping is going well, last feed about 11ish then feed her in bed about 7 - seems she is going to be like dd1 - hurray!

Happy Birthday Flame, also, forgot to wish you Happy Birthday too Hotmama, sorry