Postgraduate brookers - Brooking No Argument for happy, healthy and sleeping DCs..

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New thread time!

Phew, just got back from immunisation clinic. D is very chilled out ATM so am hoping it will last. He bled quite abit on one leg so needed 2 plasters!

My nephew was given a jumperoo and didn't like it at first so DD may get to like it soon too

Tired. I went to a bf support group for the first time today & cried to get advice to help get DT1 to take a bottle . I have flat out screaming hysterical refusal if Dh tries him :( . He went to sleep 8:15 and was up 9:40 (back down 10:20), 1am, 3am, then finally had him back asleep for 4 but fed B then (for the first time, bless him), DD woke with S at 3 too, bloody S up for the day 6:30. Shattered. I think i may as well give up on hoping to feel anything less than exhausted...

A sure start centre lady rang today to ask if a support worker could come and see me at home. apparently someone at a group has said I'm struggling. I have agreed they can come but I'd feel bad having help as I already have so much, my mum or dad or mother's help/nanny lady. Much more than most. Embarrassing, and who's said I'm struggling?!

Love it scarlet, a whole new you :) . Sounds great. Well impressed your DD is rolling, and with all the young rollers like Autumn, (& sitters, that's early for A pomme) . Mine do the stomach crunch to sit up thing, but B is getting put on his tummy slightly more but just lies there like he's been nailed to the floor... S can do some great wiggles, his 180 stunts, but looks more like a gyrating, lap dancing baby but flat on the floor . Nothing for me to be competitive about there...

Well done your Dh for giving you a break too . My night was like that, hence crying in public. In fact, I bet that's why I've had that phone call from the childrens centre just now.

ninja, school must be a massive leap, eek! I think I'll be hopeless when it comes to sending DD. Good luck uniform buying. Is he excited about going? It does sound like the right decision for you to stop bf, the sad face in his food compared to the days out you're doing now says you did the right thing. They told me to early wean rather than give formula at the bf clinic, proper die hard bf advice . Tbh, if he'd taken a bottle once the ebm ran out I'd have given formula but as it is I don't know if I'll persevere with introducing a bottle.

More porridge for the dts because I haven't steamed the sweet potato I was going to try... I'm only giving high calorie stuff. I'm sure they'd love apple etc but i want them full, so at least I know they're not waking through hunger. Maybe I'll go and steam an apple and give them.a little after their porridge...

What's a jumperoo?? You could just act like you're waiting til she's big enough to try it too if she still hates it!

Wants yay for D being chilled out after his jabs! Little A was very brave with her jabs this morning, she's stopped crying almost immediately (even though she also had a lot of bleeding! :( Evil cack-handed nurse ) She was perfectly happy afterwards for the first 2 or 3 hours, but then her temperature went up and she got a bit upset. :( She's now pumped full of baby ibuprofen and having a little snooze.

What's a jumperoo Too?! Sounds fun!

Currently trying to book baby swimming classes as a birthday pressie for DH. Who knew there were so many or that they would be such a pain in the a*#%! to book!?! Feeling too lazy to go out a buy a proper birthday card, so I've printed out a pic of DH and DD in his Aunt's pool to make my own card That's sweet right? Not mind-blowingly lazy?!?

Pet and Too I'm also horribly competitive :( I already knew I was competitive about myself, but I really thought I wouldn't be competitive about DD - so foolish. Now I'm just trying to get it under control even though my PFB is clearly the prettiest smartest strongest baby that ever lived, natch

Yay for Scarlet's A being so strong! The TV is the primary tummy time motivational tool in our household as well

Ooooo our shiny brand new Tripp Trapp is due to be delivered tomorrow! Yay! Unfortunately there's been a setback in the campaign to talk DH into also buying the painfully overpriced BB travel cot - namely my (very kind) Aunt has given us her old travel cot. It weighs approximately 1.3 tonnes and took DH and I about an hour to set up. DH now feels that with this wonder of modern ingenuity in our possession we have no need for a 5kg cot that can be set up in 20 seconds Sigh. Is it wrong to consider sabotaging this generous gift?

x-posts with Dream. Sending more hugs your way my lovely. You are coping amazingly well, that fact that you actually managed to get yourself to the bf clinic at all shows just how well you're doing. I'm sorry you were so tired you ended up having a little cry, but don't forget 99% of people in your situation would be too overwhelmed to leave the house and seek support. You're doing everything right, and I really truly believe it's going to start getting easier for you shortly. My one RL friend with twins no toddler though found the first few months really hard but the boys settled down after 6 months (perhaps because of weaning?) their sleep really improved and they started playing with each other which meant my friend could get some rest not only while they're napping but also while they're entertaining themselves. Hang in there!

Ahh dream the crying in public thing is bad and although in a way it's a release it's hassle. It always results in phone calls... Happened to me a couple of times before a got diagnosed. Take the help though. Big hugs. Xx

(((hugs))) Dream Oh what a tough time you're having. What is the person from the Surestart coming to see you for? Did they explain the reason for the visit?

Scream at sabotaging the travel cot. I've not had chance to check out the Babybjorn one but I can imagine it being very hi-tech. We bought a bog standard Mothercare one but a seperate better quality mattress for it. It did us fine until DS got too long for it at about 18 months old then I had to buy a full cot sized one with a proper cot mattress so travelling light was no longer an option but it meant we got another year out of putting him in a travel cot when we went anywhere. I was extremely PBF and would never have put him in a cot provided anywhere in a hotel or holiday apartment anywhere. I insisted we took our own everywhere and will probably be the same with DD

Ninja so pleased to hear you're feeling much better and have been out and about with DS and DD. I think it's sensible to make the feeding decision based on the needs of your whole family rather than just DD and I also think you did really well to do it through those early days and enduring mastitis twice. Try not to feel sad. I'd say that over the last week I've changed more to mixed feeding rather than just formula top ups and it's working better for us. DD's cheeks are starting to chub up at long last and I'm having more time and energy to keep DS entertained.

Pet Scream and Too I used to be competitive but then I had DS who was the last to do everything. Seriously. I gave up joining in conversations with other Mums about what all our PFB's could do. DS would just lay on his back looking up and laughing while everyone else's would perform to order. He didn't sit unaided until 9 months, crawl until 11 months, cruise until 13 months and walk until 19 months. He's only just started speaking clearly over the last few months and is almost 3.8. I had him checked over by our GP, HV, paediatrician and speech therapist and he's completely ok. Just a late developer. I must remember this when talking about DD, I'd hate anyone else to feel as worried as I did.

Bah. Wrote a long post and B's flailing arm hit the 'home' button on my phone and lost the lot.

scarlet they'd come for emotional or physical support, for someone to talk to or someone to help me get out with the children (I did say I've a lot of help and do get out) . They offered to come to the house to do baby massage with the boys so someone can massage one for me (though I took them last week to the Surestart centre baby massage and had hoped the girl doing it might do one of mine but she said she wasn't allowed to massage anyone's baby, so I just split my time between my two, so why its different in my home I'm not sure). But I'd feel such a fraud, I have help every day as i can't really get out by myself with them otherwise while S is such a menace with screaming if not in the sling/being talked to, and howling if put back in the pushchair after feeds. Hence the Embarrassing Incident of the Random Stranger who held him in a car park for me on disastrous town trip no.1! (I was going to write no.14,567 but then realized I've only been to town by myself with the duo 3 times since they were born!) There are just far more people with greater need than me who is blessed with family help and my dad sponsoring paid help though!!!

How is A this evening pomme? Have you braved the reduced omeprazole?

You're doing so amazingly well my lovely - please take all the help that is offered for you. It's really good that you're conscious of them having a limited resource - it's that sort of loveliness and selflessness that makes you so wonderful. But, the children's centre staff know what the other demands on their time are. If they think there are 'more needy' cases then they wouldn't offer you the support. They're there to help you for sure. When I was chatting to the people at our children's centre she was saying that they can go out to do massage etc at homes if people are struggling to get out and she was talking about people with one baby, not twins and a toddler!

It will get easier, and you will get some life back, and there will come a day when your three beautiful gorgeous children are all playing together and you'll just think 'wow, I did it'. But for the time being, no one on this planet could easily juggle twins and a toddler. I'm struggling often to manage my two and DS is nearly 4. And they both sleep. But often I can't be bothered to go into town or whatever because it's too much hassle, and I've got less than half the work you have on such an excursion (only 1 baby and a fully walking etc DS).

You are amazing Dream. You should have that tattooed inside your eyelids. I would say so you can see it while you sleep, but since you don't do much of that, you could remind yourself every time you blink?

How lovely though with all the baby food stories. Still no weaning here. Can't decide wether ds2 is ready or not? He's 5 mths and 1 week now. In terms of weaning signs, I can't work out what's going on. He's been unsettled and feeding more but this could be at least in part due to his teeth? Who knows.....

At the moment he's asleep on my tummy as he's had an unsettled night. I had to get up at least 10 times to pull him back down the crib . He would go back off to sleep after a few mins but obviously wasn't sleeping soundly as he'd wriggle back up the cot and we'd start over. So I fed him at 4am in the hope it would allow him to get some 'good' calm sleep which worked for about an hour (during which time DH was crashing about getting ready for work so I didn't sleep) but I've let him sleep on my tummy now and it seems to be working.

Sorry for the radio silenece. The mini biscuits have been keeping me busy and we've been out a lot so I've been reading but not having time to post (and not generally on the night shift now which was when I did a lot of my posting). Anyway hope you're all well?

Scarlet bet your hair looks fab. I'd love a nice shorter do but too scared to lop it off in case it turns into a huge frizz ball and I regret it......

*Pomme how is the weaning? And the mess? Ds2 started with back to front rolling too also neglecting tummy time here. But I think twice now he has managed to go front to back when I'm not looking. He won't do it if I'm watching but my friend was here yesterday and witnessed him on his front when we went out of the room and then when we came back into the room he was on his back.

Hope everyone else is doing ok? Pet? Musical? Anyone else I've forgotten?

Ninja wow 6 weeks already? Glad the feeding thing is making everyone more . I totally agree with the others that it's a decision for them overall family and I'm so glad that you're able to get out and about lore and enjoy the summer hols with DS before he goes to school. That is worth an awful lot

Oh btw, do check out the ttc thread for a bit of BFP action.......

Laters dudes xxxxxxxxxxx

dream i think biscuits has said all i wanted to say. take the help, they wouldn't offer if it wasn't important. 2 babies and a toddler is a huge responsibility/ amount of work. And remember, you ARE an awesome mum.

can't belive the bfp news, what a long road she has had....

Ha! Pomme I did NOT mean how is the mess! I meant MEDS

Hi all, d and I have just been to a trial baby movers session and he loved it! We will definitely be going on a regular basis once it starts in sept.
I thought we might have an unsettled night after the jabs but D slept right through to 6.15.:)
(proud mummy emoticon) can I just have a pfb moment and say that ds1 did really well in his A levels.

Hurrah for wants DS1 and also for d.

Just popping on to say dream I would take any help I could get and I've only got 2. I've found it incredibly hard with two (and still do). Plus I cry in public way more than is socially acceptable - I just have no shame and don't give a shit who sees me these days!

Hurray for Wants' DS1! Also hurray for D! Little A was a star following her jabs as well, she fell asleep around 11 and didn't wake until 6.30 (just in time for her next dose of ibuprofen). Poor thing, she's been far hotter as a result of these jabs than she was after the 8 and 12 week ones. She's really hot now, on both paracetamol AND ibuprofen :(

In other news, our Tripp Trapp is here!! It's so sleek and shiny! Is it wrong to consider weaning DD early just so we can start using it?!

Just want to send some No Brooking support to everyone who's feeling overwhelmed and emotional, particularly in public :( Hawthers, Pomme, Dream you're all coping so well with the crazy world of mothering multiple LOs. As a Mum of one I take my hat off to you! It has not been easy adjusting to looking after just one tiny human, so to be looking after more than one, at different ages with different needs - so so challenging! Well done to you all, and I hope it starts getting easier for you all asap!

well done wants DS1.

i was impressed with my pfb today when he could tell us all the letters and numbers on a car number plate. he's got a thing about spotting numbers like 'Super Numtum' and appears to have added letters too.

no more big sleeps from DS2 this week, he had jabs yesterday too and was a bit unsettled. might be tired out tonight after playing with new gym I got with money my workmates gave him.

i think he is trying to break some record for most things puked on by a baby in 24 hours. i went to the shops today and packed 3 bibs plus he was wearing one. sick on one as we went out the door, one more when i got him out of the car into the carrier, then another on the way into the shops. then got the last one as we went back to the car. I've taken to folding a whole muslin like a giant bib to catch it all. my friend was at soft play yesterday!

Dream how's today been? What Biscuits said is soooo right. You must take up any offers of support. It wouldn't be offered to you if they didn't feel you were worthy. The fact is you are doing everything possible yourself, but there is only so much one person can do. It's not like you're being lazy or waiting for someone to come and sort your kids out for you. You will make yourself ill if you carry on shouldering nearly all this work and responsibility yourself. Please don't feel bad about saying yes to outside help. And yes I know you have DH, your parents and nanny lady but they're not there all the time.

jaggy The Numtums freak me out! DS loves it unfortunately. I have to look away when number 7 pops up, he makes me feel all squeamish. Yes I realise this is weird...

Today we have been out to a family theme park. DS has absolutely loved it. It was nice this time that DH and I could split our time between going on rides with DS and staying with DD in the pram. Last time I was only 4 weeks post section and didn't want to risk even a toddler roller coaster but I've really had a brilliant time today. We've got some lovely video footage of DS's face on some of the rides. He was on this diddy caterpillar roller coaster thing with his arms in the air and fake screaming. He was loving it.

haha we have the same from our holiday scarlet! DH showed DS1 how to put his hands up on the little circus train coaster and we got a cool photo too. i got on less rides as i was bfing DS2 half the time though...

is number 7 the tiny one? i quite like the music, but DS1 says I'm not allowed to dance when it's on. he also loves it. numberjacks are banned though, as he was getting freaked out by the baddies.

love it Jaggy I love the innocence and fun of toddlers. My DS also says I'm not allowed to sing or dance. "No Mummy!" So of course I do it all the more. Sometimes he does actually cry when I sing.

Number 7 is the fatish grey one. I think it's tummy is red? It's it's weird, vacant eyes I don't like when it's head wags about during the opening song. Makes me shudder.

Aww DD has fell asleep on her playmat. She's laying on her side sucking her fingers.

Oh just saw the end of your post Jaggy. I can't bear to watch the Numbertaker. The Puzzler reminds me of Sid James

every night he used to ask "no numbertaker/puzzler/problem blob mummy?" and I'd have to say "no just mummy and daddy and DS1 in the house". this was months ago, probably before he was 2. it may have been because we let him watch some numberjacks stuff on youtube and he got a bit obsessed.

biscuits - the weaning is messy

A is loving food and seems to be doing okay on 5 mg omeprazole. She will not sleep though! Yesterday dh and I went out from 7-10 and mum and dad had a wide awake Abbie from 7.20! They were pushing her round the garden in her pushchair all evening!

Dh and I had a great night though and even sff on our return.

Had so much to say and have now forgotten it... of the trip traps is all I can remember!

Glad to know I'm not the only one banned from singing by my toddler though!

Oh the joys of cbeebies! remembers back to when boys were small and children's tv was just a couple of hours a day

My friends daughter actually said " no mummy ,you are scaring me!" when she started to sing:(
It suddenly dawned on me that the baby movers class will be on the day I am attending lectures at uni so I will miss it but DH says he is happy to go so at least D won't miss out.

Lots of general no brooking that all of babies sleep well tonight!

Stupid naming ceremony - whose idea was it to throw a party? mine I have spent a ridiculous amount of money and we don't have flowers yet. Am going to use as many flowers from the garden as possible but will still need to buy some. Tired and grumpy and haven't tidied the house or hoovered or started any of the cooking or written my toast speech, which DH refused to make, so I have to do it. And it took me ages to put M to bed - she just kept waking up again, grr! Please God let her sleep for longer than 2 hours at a stretch tonight...

Wants, I will be that mother when M is old enough to comment on my lack of singing voice!

Pomme, yay for an evening out! And sff too - well impressed.

for Dream.

Too tired to comment - hope you all have a lovely night's sleep!

Meant to say Congratulations Wants DS1. Is he uni bound?

Glad you got a night out Pomme. Impressed with the SFF. DH and I are out for a meal at the weekend. My intention is to SFF when we get home but I've not told him that so I can change my mind if I'm too knackered

Numberjacks are too scary for Cbeebies IMO.

Err, I think ds2's teeth are hurting. Just found him trying to bite the bars on the crib.....

Well done to the clever PFBs Jaggy an Wants

Sounds like an ace day Scarlet. It won't surprise you that ds1 is scared of rollercoasters....

Forgotten everything else. Beat go to sleep in the hope ds2 stops trying to eat the crib and goes back to sleep

Night night xxx