November 05 Babies, they're on a roll......

[Busyalexsmummy]

Here, thats better!

lol..jenjam...for sure! my friend jasmin is preg so only a spritzer for her, so she can take care of O if I get tipsy..bring on the kir royales! lol..(god i hve such 80's tastes..hehee)

gosh,crazy ironing lady story..i love a bit of gossip even wen i don't know the person involved..bit at her husbands reaction though, hope it all works out

our damn shower isn't working again, so I've tried to blowdry the hair clippings off myself and put a few heated rollers in..sure I'll look great, hehee!
'treating' myself to a black cab to the south bank..lol..know it's more xpensive than a minicab but they always feel more 'proper' iyswim...

lol..jenjam...for sure! my friend jasmin is preg so only a spritzer for her, so she can take care of O if I get tipsy..bring on the kir royales! lol..(god i hve such 80's tastes..hehee)

gosh,crazy ironing lady story..i love a bit of gossip even wen i don't know the person involved..bit at her husbands reaction though, hope it all works out

our damn shower isn't working again, so I've tried to blowdry the hair clippings off myself and put a few heated rollers in..sure I'll look great, hehee!
'treating' myself to a black cab to the south bank..lol..know it's more xpensive than a minicab but they always feel more 'proper' iyswim...

Diege yes i know it SOUNDS like a good thing to do because she did want to know....

but when she left she seemed very sad, she said today would be 'a very bad day for me and my husband' - then i sat down and thought actually maybe i shouldn't have got involved. perhaps a couple of days for him to get used to the POSSIBILITY would've helped, whereas now she's going home with a definite pink line on her stick....

and it's kind of my doing!

Diege yes i know it SOUNDS like a good thing to do because she did want to know....

but when she left she seemed very sad, she said today would be 'a very bad day for me and my husband' - then i sat down and thought actually maybe i shouldn't have got involved. perhaps a couple of days for him to get used to the POSSIBILITY would've helped, whereas now she's going home with a definite pink line on her stick....

and it's kind of my doing!

No, any problems for her arise from her husband's attitude I think, not from you . I think it sounds a tough position for her to be in, and you helping didn't create the situation she's in, and i'm sure when she looks back on things, she will be happy that you helped. Her husband would probably react badly whatever the time scale, so I wouldn't feel bad at all if I were you .

Jen I would have done the same thing in your position. Look at it this way -- she learned about it with someone non-clinical and was able to think/talk it thru before seeing her husband, who sounds horrible. Maybe he isn't and he will change his mind but I'd rather have a child who knew how to love than a partner who didn't. I wish we could co-sleep but dd has to be propped so it's totally impossible. We do propped cuddling in the morning tho.

Happy Birthday BoB -- what a special day planned. And Happy Birthday Ben!

Londoner, never heard of the movie but let's go for it. I don't know the cinema -- is there a place we can meet just inside in case it is raining? And what time would be good for you.

Thanks all for the good wishes. I'm very pleased of course about it all and feel really excited. DH to be and I already feel very married so we're looking forward to it. We got our rings on saturday. I've decided to buy a dress at home and then I don't have to transport it and worry about creasing etc.

Salon experience a success dd was rivetted by the lights and mirrors and sounds and then she fell asleep. Thankfully she went deep as it took two hours to get home in the traffic. The salon I go to is very child friendly. When I was pregnant everyone told me to come back with the baby and they'd take care of her. They did coo lots over her and make fun of her spiky hair. The biggest problem I have is she doens't like the car seat I think it bothers her reflux. But I've decided this week that I can't avoid doing things because she doesn't like it so it's been a bit hit and miss. Went to a school this morning and it was shrieking the whole way, poor thing. Do you think it's damaging to let her go?

Anyone see Steve Budulph on the news this morning making working mothers feel terrible?? I don't mind experts coming out but do they have to use language like 'sliders' and 'slammers'? Most of us don't really feel we have much of a choice. But anyway.

Time and place tomorrow? Are we still on?

Hi Candiemom - Yes, I saw it too, have succumbed to the evils of the media to pass time when b/f DS and to ensure I rest of an evening. Anyway, have v.mixed feeling about the whole thing. I think i'd like to work p/t but on the condition that a grandparent would look after the baby. As this is not possible right now it's not an option I have. Probably couldn't afford childcare anywhere so there wouldn't be much left thus pointless. Secondly, I am no longer financially independent and apart from the council tax and odd bill I only ever spent my earnings on me (clothes, toiletries, holidays etc.) so although I'd like to contribute now and have my own money I'm sure we'll manage without. DH will just have a look more to worry about but I try hard to budget where I can and help him with his business best I can. (Ever tried answering a business call and sounding professional with baby in arms needing a feed?)

Anyway...it had me thinking about it all. Oh, and that boys are far more insecure than girls and should be with their mothers until they are thee!

Jenjam - Think you did the right thing. Hope her husband comes round to the idea of a baby. She will appreciate your being there I'm sure.

BoB - Lucky you! Sounds like a super afternoon.

Z is producing v.messy nappies as of late. They are less frequent but when he does one BoY does he do one! I think i should omit the morning bath and T & T instead. What do you do?
It seems that by the afternoon these days he is covered from neck to toe in yukky pooh, right through to the trousers he's wearing and today it was even on his bouncer!! (Not to mention he was getting his hands in it when I turned for the wipes) So, reckon I should just give him a good scrub down at night only washing down in the morning...suggestions?

Also have really silly question: How do you react to your LO when she/he is poohing? Poor Z was sat this morning going quite red in the face and trying v.hard to smile at me. I kept talking to him and then thought it better to let him pooh in peace .. don't mind my questions, it happens being at home all day with a 3mth old for company :)

I encourage dd when she is pooing. Sometimes she cries so I tell her it's going to be ok. My friends' daughter needs to have privacy when she does hers (2 years).

thanks for support

what a day!!! today was supposed to be easy had run in with our solicitor re: costs on phone at lunchtime - hiked up from estimated £750 to £1500 midway and now apparently we've spent another £850 on top of that ! i asked for a breakdown of time spent and apparently i will get that after i've paid. oh right. i see. not. i said i won't pay until i see what i am paying for. surely that's reasonable and doin gall that while bouncing a baby (yes chacha - hard to sound hardline and professional with someone making donald duck gurgles in the receiver during the crucial 'don't f*ck with me' pauses.)

anyway enough self obsessed little old me

pooing is much more interesting. i observe finn when he's straining; stifle a giggle (how childish) and ask him in a very high voice if he's having a poo and if he's feeling better.

if he poohs when my mum is around she says in a chastising voice 'are you being naughty???, are you? are you? are you'. i keep correcting her and telling her that he's not being naughty he's just being a human being. grrr. AND she gave him calgel without my say so. double grrr.

BoB enjoy the booze.....got me wondering whether its too early to have a little pre dinner gin and tonic at 15.59? old soak that i am.

Beksmum - how you holding up, withe lurgy and all?

btw in case you were wondering we have solicitors not for anything interesting....only a boring old lease extension on our flat

i think i'm talking to myself. and that's without the gin.

when i start talking to finn with a brummie accent i know it's time to go outside for some fresh air. bye

not that there's anything wrong with a brummie accent , just that i'm being a bit silly

well I enjoyed that Jen!! I actually do find having a baby in the background can scare people -- especially men. Women somehow dig their heels in. You should be able to get the breakdown up front, best practice has it that you should be able to have this at any time. My guess is they don't have the breakdown to hand. Anyway, anything to do with property always seems to feel like this, doesn't it?

How maddening about your mom, but I did have to laugh. Are they really all the same? And will we be like that too? When mine was here she kept wrapping dd up like it was the tundra and I kept unwrapping her to prevent cot death. She would get this look on her face as though she'd lost the battle but not the war. Also she kept pretending not to notice the reflux so it was like Mr. Snuffleupagus every time a reflux related symptom would happen, I'd go 'see? that's the reflux' and she'd go 'I didn't notice anything. I'm sure she's fine.' How triumphant to have the doctor validate me (though I suspect she thinks he's wrong!).

londoner - lol at shopping my dh is the same way, and I hate it!

caleb's been grizzling so much today! Went to see HV who keep saying put him on his tummy but then he gets upset for abt an hour afterward!

diege have u put your pics on yet?

Tex I love your hair-do - I always want to wear mine like that but it doesn't go and I can't be bothered. Another one who looks good pregnant!

I studied Drama & Theatre Studies, but it looked more at drama theory rather than running around in black pretending to be tree. I examined female identity through the sexual body, anorexic body, maternal body, and the surgical body. I'd be very interested to go back over it now I've had a baby and see how/if I would change any of that section.

I would never take Nat to the hairdressers, in fact I'm going to stop taking her anywhere around lunch time now as she gets in such a strop if she can't sleep.

Jen Jam I love bringing Natalie into bed when she wakes up in the morning, she gets to sleep more and I get a cuddle .

If the balls were real, how come they didn't damage any of the cars in the street because a bouncy ball going at speed must be able to break a few windows?

Wow JenJam, that situation with your ironing lady is quite harsh. Good on you for getting the test for her and talking through it all with her.

Candiemom - I saw that child care expert this morning, was expecting to see a backlash on MN today!!

Re: poo - Natalie has never had an exploding nappy moment, am I the only one? She does some very neat poos, with the occasional large sludgy one, but none that have ever leaked. She has a very clear 'poo face' so I'll just leave her to it and then change her straight away. She normally goes at the same time each day so we know to look out for it.

Happy Birthday BoB .

Met a fellow mum for coffee this morning and another mum came in the cafe and wondered over near us with her baby. We struck up a conversation and it turns out she's trying to find new mums to talk to in the area too so she took our numbers. Might finally be getting somewhere with mummy friends.

sorry - wandered not wondered

Hi all..we had an amazing time at the restaurant, big views of london, and the fact it was gloomy , grey and rainy just made it feel more 'londony' lol..had some amazing monkfish and the best tomato salad ever...mmmm

back home with jasmine..and i 'm silly for coming on here mid 'celebrations' but she said i should too..
i got a call on my mobile (during lunch..grr) from a health visitor at our g.p saying why has O not had his 8 week check. wtf?
she then said they have no record of me or him at all!!!!???, despite all my antenatal care being through them and me having his 'red book' with the g.ps sig. on some entries and health visitor attached to the practice on the rest...
very annoyed as I now have to go there to sort it all out.
the woman who called acted like i had had no antenatal care, and no postnatal care at all, and made me feel totally awful as a result.

So reason I posted...only so when I get home later i can look at ressuring messages and stop being angry until I can sort these things out tomorrow..lol..damn the nhs..don't they have computer records for these things?

on a brighter note..will be meeting d.p later and can open that damn envelope..lol
sorry for being rude and not mentioning other posts..two glasses of wine got me slightly drunk and i need to go have fun..lol...

very amusing cm
funnily enough. i just put phone down to my mum
MUM: why is he crying?
ME: I don't know, he just started, because he's a baby?
MUM: he sounds tired to me?
ME: well he's not becuase he woke up not too long ago from a lovely nap
MUM: are you sure?
ME: err. yes.
MUM: oh, well then he's thirsty. give the poor bugger some water
ME: you don't need to give water if you are breastfeeding
MUM: I had three kids i think know what im talking about jennifer. he's thirsty. i can hear it in his voice
ME: mum you didnt' breastfeed. you don't need to give water as well (come on ladies this is true isnt'it?)
ME: (GETTING BREAST OUT WHILE ON PHONE - bad habit developing!!!)
MUM: you feed him too much. everytime he cries you give him breast milk. he's probably thirsty. you don't have to listen to everything they say you know.
ME: yes. ok. whatever
MUM: why don't you give him some calgel. i've got some here
ME: hmmm I might do, anyway must go. bye

etc etc

cor didnt' see all those posts - crossed with several of you

hello nova and beartime - where have you been all day?

Sounds like you're having a great time BOB (don't listen to daft HVs today!) Happy Birthday and have a fab time tonight :) REMEMBER THE ENVELOPE!!

Happy Birthday to little Ben too!! Hope baby T is much better or he won't be able to have any cake

Sorry Candimom, didn't mean to miss you off, I did it for the newcomers too Lovely wedding story BTW, have a great time :)

Oh no Nova, don't tell me the ads not real! You are right though...

What a PITA solicitor Jen , I think gin at 4 is fine, I'll start worrying when you are having it at 9am . Your poor ironing lady, keep us updated!!

Well I went for my ride this morning, took the horses out for a quick blast, but it was really wet so we were all covered in muck by the time I got home, all clean and dry now though. Had an excellent time, it's nice just being back around horses - it's been too long! I think I may suffer tomorrow.....

Jen LOL!! your funny mum! I've got mine coming round soon......

you are right though!

Sorry forgot to add us Candiemom - Rodeo's Jessie Mathilda Mary 10/10/05 6lb12oz Derbyshire
Nova's Natalie Samantha15/10/05 6lb13oz Notting Hill, London
Bob2110's Georgina Mae 21/10/05 9lb10oz Reigate, Surrey
Bek's Thomas Samuel 26/10/05 7lb13oz Bromley, Kent
Londoner's Elizabeth 29/10/05 7lb4oz Greenwich, London
Laylamum's Seth Daniel 30/10/05 8lb7oz Derbyshire
Tex's Rosie Rae 1/11/05 8lb4oz Blackheath, London
Alfiesmum's Oscar 2/11/05 8lb14oz Essex
Hamster's Euan 2/11/05 8lb8oz Gloucestershire
Beartime's Caleb Easy 4/11/05 8lb7oz Ashford, Kent
Diege's Liberty Thea 7/11/05 7lb11oz Warrington
Tessasmum's Ash 7/11/05 8lb4oz Bedfordshire
Jenjam's Finn Edward 7/11/05 8lb5oz Islington
Enthusia's Sam 9/11/05 8lb2oz Reigate, Surrey
Twinkle's Joshua William 11/11/05 6lb7oz Hadfield, N.Derbys
Goldenoldie's Ezra & Nathaniel 11/11/05 6lb6oz & 6lb8oz N1, London
SharonTW's Sam 22/11/05 8lb14oz
Karma's Ella Grace 23/11/05 7lb9oz North Yorkshire
Browniechick's Thomas Henry 25/11/05 7lb 11½oz Stratford-upon-Avon
Edodgy's Jack William 25/11/05 8lb10oz Liverpool
Busy's Alfie 27/11/05 7lb15oz Glastonbury, Somerset
BabyonBoard's Oskar Samuel 28/11/05 6lb 3oz Blackheath, London
YorkshirePudding's Holly Charlotte 29/11/05 8lb8oz Sheffield
Chacha's Zayn 03/12/05 7lb 9oz Oxfordshire
LilJ's Nathaniel 08/12/05 9lb 2oz North London
Candiemom's Georgia 25/11/05 7lb 12 oz London

Hahaaaaaaa!!!!! I've just been p*ssing myself over 'Bobs freaky knitting patterns' on the yahoo group (ZZZmeetups)!!

I might make J the girl's version

what is this mysterious yahoo group and how does one join?