December 2011: Of Mice, Men and Tables

[NorthernChinchilla]

Here we go...I hope!

Kate, give baby neurofen and recheck his temp in half an hour. In the meantime light clothing, a fan if you have one. Officially tepid sponging is no longer recommended but a warmish flannel face wash can make them
More comfortable.
. An untreated temp over 38 carries a small risk
Of a febrile convulsion, you don't want one of those. The dose on the packet is usually conservative so if you give him 2.5ml and he spits it out/spews it up you are safe to repeat the dose. And rimg back the OOH anyway for proper advice. Xxx

Ps the "let the temp sweat it out" is a bit of an odd one: it's a common view but is not evidence based and more relevent to vaccine immunity as no-one is really sure how beneficial temps are in combatting infections.. They sure as heck make kiddies unhappy though, and I tend to medicate mine whenever their temp goes over 38 (and then try to work out why it has done so).

Thanks ladies. They called back in 5 mins told me to come straight in. Looked horrified at what I was told earlier, immediately gave him paracetamol. Temp was 39. Now waiting in a quiet room for 30mins and they'll then examine him. He was too distressed for them to do so before. Will update you later.

(((((kate)))) glad you're getting him checked over. Hopefully he'll have a poorly ear or throat and you'll be able to go home with some sound medicine and advice. I'll keep checking the thread.

excellent choice with the sling kitty, my newish R&R is FAB and extremely comfy in the front carry mode. The back carry is even more brilliant though I can't for the life of me work out how to get him in on my own (need to practice as its the main reason I wanted that one).

Woohoo for getting some decent advice kate, here's hoping everything is back to normal soon for you.

We've just spent two hours in the PASSU, but we're on our wy hone. Phone dying so will check back later:)

Hope all is ok with octoboy

We are home. We ended up waiting for an hour to be seen, and despite the calpol his temp was 39.1 by then. He's had no D or V, ears, throat, chest and abdomen all fine, so she thinks it's a virus or even just teething. She said as he also didn't look particularly flushed or poorly she was happy for us to come home and just keep him hydrated. Fingers crossed he has a decent night and starts getting on the mend.

He was supposed to be having his underwater photo shoot tomorrow, don't think that will be happening somehow.

Exhausted. Off to bed.

Hmmm. Teething does not give you a temp of 39. Keep an eye on his temp when you are up with him and repeat ibuprofen/calpol to try to keep it down overnight. If you are worried at any point, or can't get it below 38 then ring back the OOH for advice/review. Hope you get some sleep and that he picks up soon, if you're worried get him seen or go to A&E for a second opinion.

hope Octoboy is OK lmf.

Thanks, will do. They did say I could call back or go in again at any point overnight if I was concerned.

Busy day, so I will try to catch up tomorrow :( It all fell apart when the milk curdled in my coffee, so no porridge for me = stumbling around zombie-like all day.

Hope the poorly babies are better soon. ((()))

Good choice with the R&R kitty I've heard good things about them; just bought a connecta & I'm loving how quick it is to pop him in, took about 2 minutes to get him on my back. Definitely not as comfy as wrapping but sooo much faster :)

Hope the temperature drops Kate :(

Octoboy had a nasty nappy with blood in it. Pharmacist told me to go see the doctor, the doctor referred us to PASSU and of the two doctors who saw us in there one was convinced its nappy rash while the other thinks its just a random episode of blood in nappy. The nappy rash doctor also told me I'm weaning wrong and that as octoboy is over six months old I have to give him some formula as my milk will be crsp nowS It's been a shitty end to my borthdat so I'm going to bed to sllero it off.

Seevyou all in mornivf.

How's your little boy this morning Kate? Hoping the painkillers brought down his temperarurre:)

Kate, hope all went ok overnight. LMF ????????? re: formula. What on earth? Breastmilk is fine for as long as you want surely? How wd formula be better? I think that's odd advice. Hope octoboy is ok.

kate hope the night went ok, how is he now?

lmf sorry you had a rubbish day, was it your birthday too? Double rubbish. Can't believe the dr told you that bm is no good after 6 months! More rubbish! Some doctors are funny. When I went to the GP with bfeeding thrush I mentioned to him a leaflet that my usual (nice) GP gave me about thrush which explained treatment options. The GP said "oh those bfeeding people will write anything..." !!!!!

Has the blood gone now? Hope you're feeling a bit beTter this morning.

DD only had one wake-up at 4am! Then up at 7.20am. I haven't done anything different, just hope it lasts!

for gee and babygee! It's Great
Getting a recharge!

lmf what total swill! It may be that the doctor thought you're only feeding a few times a day, baby needs most of their calories from milk until one, s needs several feeds a day (at least four usually but we all know BF beebs tend to do way more than that) but why on earth would formula trump breastmilk ? It's a perfectly OK substitute but in no way superior.... Suspect doc was a bit out of touch there. hope nappy was a oneoff and he's ok.

kate hope your night was OK....

We had a good one here, ds wailed at 10.30 and had sn extra 4oz then slept through til 6!!!!

Well done to mini gee and aethel for all the sleeping

Hope octoboy fine now lmf. Can't believe the utter rubbish that Dr told you about BF!

DS needed settling a couple of times late last night, then slept until 5. Temp back to normal then. He had a few oz milk and a little water, and is now still asleep. Will see how he is when he wakes, hopefully on the mend now. Thanks to you all for your support. First time he's been properly ill and it's been horrible to see my usually content and smiley boy being the exact opposite.

Hi

sorry still havent catch up

Hope cut her first tooth yeasterday but she was fine i only found out when she bite me!

Im still working on husband relationship and his inability to tell the truth!

Im so busy with the children i cant believe it. Hope is a handful she can crawl and stand up on her own but has not started crusing yet. Weaning is going good but now i have to get her new clothes thanks to a growth spurt!

Air is now potty trained and wants to not wear pj pants/ pull ups for bed now lol

im still bf and Had af last month so im so tired.

Husband has docors appointment on Monday for the snip so no more children. Im sad but think its for the best :(

kate very relieved to hear that DS is ok now.

air good to hear you're doing ok. Just make sure it's what you both really want before he has it done.

lmf happy belated birthday. I hope octoboy is ok now, and a for the useless dr.

Eva woke at 5 and has since only had 15 minutes sleep, and therefore in a grump. She has also just been sick on my beige coat so not in my good books this morning.

Hiya air, good to see you. Don't worry about reading the whole thread, seriously, there are so many posts and most of them are just me wittering no-one will mind!

DIY slowly continues: yesterday night I repainted the front door and (get me) polished the "door furniture" (!!!!) if our house doesn't flog I will
be having serious words with the people who write these websites...
Today is watching the laydeez cycle and attempting to shuffle a few boxes Into our already packed attic. And maybe if I'm a bit lucky, some knitting!

Seems like it's going to take a while for DS to shift whatever this is (and like you said aethel I'm sure it's not just teething). He woke at 9, temp a little high at 37.1, and he's still not right. Very clingy and unhappy, and he's asleep on me again now. Glad it's the weekend so DH can entertain DD.

Hey thanks for the good wishes. We had a fab day x

Glad you had a good day DSM

Temp back up to 38.5 so have given more nurofen. Feel so helpless. Not sure how long to sit at home trying to rode this out for

If you want second opinion Kate, ring for one. Babies and high temperatures don't mix, they will not mind.

Nice to hear from Honey and Air again, hope you're both well:)

Sorry for the dreadful typing last night, though I'm sure Northern will be loving the autocorrect goodies

Octoboy hasn't passed any more blood. His bottom is still red, but I can't see any way that it would have caused fresh red blood to be mixed in with the mucousy poo. I'm keeping my eyes peeled and am doing more frequent nappy changes as well as troweling the metanium on.

I react badly when my choice to breastfeed is questioned, as it's something I do despite not enjoying it. I have ishoos and have had since Thing2 was a baby when I had a health visitor who pushed me so hard to mix feed because she didn't approve of breastfeeding. I'll now have a paranoid guilt-trip for weeks thinking I'm in the wrong even though the rational part of my brain knows the doctor was talking so much horsecrap:/ Do paediatric doctors have to read up on the merits of breastfeeding? He was spouting the sort of stuff I'd expect my mother's generation to push, not somebody who looks to be a similar age to me.

Ho hum. Having a coffee now. Waiting for the call to boob.

Glad you have fun dsm

LMF I cannot believe your GP said that about breastmilk I hope you didn't believe his tripe. On what planet could formula possibly be any better than bm? A substance that is made not just for babies in general but for your particular baby based on his personal requirements. What an idiot. Grrr. Happy belated birthday though; I hope today is better for you. :)

So pleased to hear you got some sleep Gee makes all the difference doesn't it!

My brain's gone mushy so I'm having trouble remembering who I wanted to namecheck now...lost a long post after the computer rebooted itself >_< so I'll just let you know how we've been :)

Rocco's doing great, rolling but not really crawling anymore & only pulls himself up on me, not the furniture thank goodness...ooh that jogged my memory...sorry to here about the bumps & falls; I think it was minimopsy & sky? Rocco rolled off the bed last week too, I was right there getting him dressed but I just couldn't reach him in time & I felt awful. Our bed is really high & I saw his face hit the wooden floor I was in bits. Couldn't calm him down at all or get him to nurse so I was really worried but I got my OH home & he calmed us both down so I think I was just making things worse I don't think I'll be winning any awards for mumming anytime soon :(

Got to go check on DS & I don't want to risk losing another post so I'll just post this for now :)

Oh just read your post LMF I felt so when I read what the GP said & this is exactly why. There are so many women who struggle with bfing & there's so much negativity about doing it past 6 months despite NHS & WHO recommendations, no health professional should add to your ishoos. Do not give it any thought please he's an imbecile.

Really need to check on ds now; he's having an oddly long nap...I should enjoy it but I think I'll go poke him instead :p

I'm working on a theory that DS was a Labrador in another life. He doesn't seem to grasp that food can legitimately belong to other people. If you make the mistake of eating in front of him, he just looks at you, longingly, pleadingly; then if you try to ignore him, starts doing his raptor dance, of the flapping arms and legs and squawks.

Never fails. He's had toast, bagel and cream cheese, yoghurt and clementine off me so far this weekend

Really sorry to hear you're having a grim time there Kate, but good at least that the temp did go back down for a while and allowed him to get a halfway decent night.

Some doctors (not on here, obviously ) do peddle some shite sometimes LMF. I understood that you could technically sustain a child til they were about 5 on breastmilk and little else, although that may be taking the commitment a wee bit far... And whilst nutrition is very important, it's only if kids are seriously under-nourished that it can affect them badly.
Hope the little tentacled one is doing OK, and happy belated birthday.

Snurk @ 'door furniture' aethel, what mangling of the English language estate agents are responsible for!

Right, when Captain Fluffyhead DS wakes, we'll get off and hit Bluewater!