October 2011 chattering, eating and on the move!

[strawberrypenguin]

New thread!

Hi all,

Steaming hot here and have been packing all day and tidying the house (ridiculous that I?m tidying up because we won?t be here for 2 weeks! I must be crazy!) as we are heading ot the UK tomorrow for holiday and to see family.

Huge hugs outnumbered . You must be shattered.

I think it?s great that everyone is giving out advice. I hope that you can find what works for you and L out

I really felt that I had to post in defence of mama .

mama I have taken a different approach than you regarding feeding/sleeping arrangements but that doesn?t mean that I don?t value your point of view. I think you always express yourself clearly and articulately and nothing you have said has ever made me feel guilty or take offence. Please don?t stop posting Same to you fuzzy. You don?t sound cold-hearted at all, DH and I have taken the same approach with M and it has worked for us.

scheh I?m sure you didn?t mean it to come across this way but I found the tone of your last few posts quite unpleasant. I would be upset if they were aimed at me. I didn?t find mama?s post at all offensive or guilt-inducing (speaking as someone who stopped bf-ing at 5/6 months and doesn?t co-sleep).

I think it?s really important that we respect each other?s views and different ways of parenting. It?s very easy to judge what other people are doing when it?s not your baby that?s been screaming for the last 20 minutes. One person?s ?bad habit? is what someone else may need to do to get them through the day.

I could not have survived my pregnancy and the last 9 months without your support ladies. (do the flowers make me sound less preachy?)

pebble I will leave M in the lounge if I?m in the kitchen so I can see/hear him, but DH and I have agreed that if we head upstairs and neither of us is downstairs then we will put him in the box. He is crawling around at lightning speed and can pull himself up on EVERYTHING right now ? further baby-proofing of window sills required! He seems to want to play with everything except his toys! If he?s upstairs with me and I?m not in the room then he?s in his cot.

Anyway, mammoth post. Should probably wave goodbye for 2 weeks as we are leaving at 3am tomorrow and probably won?t be posting while I?m away

I think it best if we do all move on from this subject

Enjoy your holiday engel . It's very hot here today, not so sunny mind you but warm. Im sitting watching tennis with a sleepy Sophia in my arms. Lovely breeze coming through the windows. Hope that summer is finally on the way after the down pour yesterday

engel i know you've explained that box means playpen, but it still conjures an image of you putting m in a box and closing the lid.

i leave all 3 downstairs, but i have to wee really fast!

sassy That's how we deal with discipline in Holland

sometimes I do trip up with "dinglish". In Dutch you call the chest of draws/unit that you put a changing mat on top of in the nursery the "commode" which obv means something a bit different in English! I find that because I've only had a baby "in Dutch" iyswim, I end up using Dutch terms even when I'm speaking English (very bad habit). So will be chatting to my mum and talking about putting M in the "wipstoel" before I remember that I should say "bouncy chair" . Sometimes I really find it difficult to find the English word for baby stuff...have obv been here too long

Hope that we get some nice weather fuzzzy but fear that it might be rain all the way. It's so humid here, I can't cope with this weather

Engel at box. Have same vision as sassy. Hope you bring sunshine with you. What part of uk are you visiting? Sunshine here at moment.

Sassy I had to read your earth mother description out to dh. He LOL quite loudly. I am lucky if I get to brush my hair, currently hiding in lounge while he is holding J and boys playing Lego... After saying I need was space from the kids for 5 bloody minutes pleeeaasse (so I can mnet). I am very far from serene and have quite a potty mouth at times lately. . Dh reckons I have post natal Tourette's . But I do aspire to earth mother status, thank you I've never eaten lentils. And no Oi aren't patronising at all and I respect totally that you parent differently and value your POV. I don't think I could manage 3 under 3 at all.

Fuzzy yea, I agree I will draw line under this.

lookput thank you.

Scheh let's agree to disagree. We are all very blessed.

Hot here too, just had couple of hours at Paultons and tea time now. Hope the sun stays around now.

Sorry everyone if I bought thread down. xx

going to be in Dorset near Sherborne for a week and than back to mid-Kent for a long weekend with family

than? then!

Not too far from us then enj hope you have a fantastic time

Hi all, I really appreciate everyone's pov, I haven't time right now to read in full but please all feel free to speak openly. There is no right or wrong, or one size fits all.

Ds1 and ds2 were better at this point because I started pupd earlier I think. PND hasn't helped me sort things out this time.

I'm not looking for L to sleep through but I do need 4 hours unbroken sleep to function. I worked out its been nearly 3 weeks since I had that.

Not sure what to do next but very grateful for everyone's support and advice xxx

mama dont spoil my perception of you!

Scheh - just answering some q's. L is in our room out of necessity right now, it's either that or he goes in with ds2 who I would rather get a good night as e is terrible when tired. I am so tired that I couldn't respond quickly if I wanted too so don't think I'm rushing in. Other night DH came in from living room before I woke up!

I will keep trying to offer other comfort before boob if less than 4 hours have passed I think, although in the short term that means less sleep.

We co-slept from 5 and that was nice

Mama - I think I have postnatal Tourette's too

I really hope no one feels bad for postin advice, it's all appreciated and I'd hate to think I caused a conflict. You are all wonderful women who have lots to share and we can all take or leave what suits us.

xxxx

Out you have not caused any conflict at all. I'm glad you got some sleep tho more would be better. I don't always fully wake when I tend to J, so I drift off while feeding and rouse when she's done (mostly). Last night she was fussing every hourish (sometimes less and sometimes more), but that was tummy, teeth, ear etc. I don't think I could physically or mentally cow with that over a prolonged period of time. Trying to convince her to sleep now, she had late nap so keeps chatting with mouthful of boob

out snap! It's been three weeks since my last 4 hour stretch too! It'll start getting to me soon as well, so I sympathise

Mama another one of those corrections: trying to imagine you 'mentally cowing' hehe

Sympathy for both of you lookout and outnumbered it will pass (said with feeling as we had first full nights sleep in over two months last night!)

I'm about to have kittens, we've just accepted an invitation out tomorrow night which means I'll be leaving e overnight for the first time [panic]! He'll be staying with my mum and dad who he loves but am very nervous....Fuzzzy you've been away for a whole weekend haven't you? How did you do it?

lookout oops. Was meant to be "cope" but think mentally or psychically cowing is much more fun tho I'm scared of huge great cows. Who did the song... Building up my problems to the size of a cow?

Wonderstuff ( showing my age!)

damn blast look at my past I'm ripping up my feet on the broken glass, I said, oh wow look at me now, I'm building all my problems to the size of a cow... Oh ooh yeah.....

Mama Size of a cow - Wonder Stuff

LP I thought you actually had a cat that was about to give birth . Hope you have a good evening out anyway

lp I recently left H for 2 nights when I went to Ireland for a family wedding, dh stayed with him but I still hated leaving him - however, it was fantastic to have some baby-free time and enjoy some drinks! He's stayed over at his nan's before too and doesn't seem to care that I'm not around

In the nicest way, you'll probably care a lot more than E have a lovely time

I've had to you tube it and now bouncin around kitchen looking like a sad middle aged woman. What age is middle age?? I'm 37 very soon.

LP where are you going? How exciting am a bit but I don't think I'm ready to leave her yet. [pathetic emoicon]]

lookout
mama middle aged is now definitely about fifty plus
We're going down to Cornwall to a posh dinner with guest speakers and a comedian, tickets cost £300 and we're getting in free
We are staying overnight in a hotel which means we might get to DTD uninterrupted

Sorry over use of smileys......

lp S has had many nights away from me . She had a sleepover with her gran on tue night. Actually, I dropped her off at 2pm on tue and didn't get her back till 12pm Wednesday. I actually enjoyed a bit of time to myself. Made some nice lunch, caught up with tv. The housework got left. I think cause I trust my mum amd dad 100% with her, they know her routine/cry/signs as much as me so I can just had her over. Anyone else I think I'd be very nervous but as someone said, you will worry more than E . Have fun actually think I'll become a virgin again at this rate

Whoops, did I just say that outloud!!!

Fuzzzy