June 2012 - Jubilant mums of Jubilee babies

[TeaandHobnobs]

It is Jubilee weekend - awaiting those babies!

gwennie that sounds great I really hope this signifies a change for you two now!

Gwenie - glad the tounge divide seems to have gone well & that hopefully feeding will soon be less painful.

Em - glad to hear your support network is great. It makes a massive difference to trust your health care providers. Hope your soon on the road back to feeling like yourself.

Thanks for all get well wishes for Jude. He is well on his way. He looks & acts like never been poorly. Such a happy contented baby.

Ray that is terrifying but wonderful Jude on the mend now poor poor you.
Emblosion you are brave. I have quite a history of depression and for the first six weeks did think I was getting pnd. Luckily this feeling has passed so must just have Ben baby blues.
Will look up mrsshears thanku.
Noah just gone to sleep but in the bed again and so trying to get him in Moses but he really is too big now!

Rayray meningitis is frightening,glad to hear Jude is better!!

Gwennie hope that the feeding is going better now!!

Emglad you sought help!!Frustratingly the drugs take 2 weeks to take effect. I had PND with DS,it was truely frightening to not feel like myself. I took antidepressants for 6 months (was diagnosed at 9 weeks) and had some counselling,which really helped. What I worried about,is that it would affect DS somehow but he is a fabulous happy child.Also this time around,I have felt so different,it's indescribable.You will feel better,it will just take a bit of time!!! If you ever want to chat - feel free to msg me

Thanks guys and ffnorm its good to know it wouldn't necessarily happen again because I've been worrying about that, and whether DS will realise/be damaged by it in some way :(

I kind of thought pnd would creep up gradually and it took me by suprise how bad I felt & how quickly although I hadn't been feeling 'right' before that there were all sorts of other things to put it down to. I really hope that by getting help quickly I can get better as fast as possible - one day at a time etc x

Lol. I am living by one day at a time! Hormones playing up I think, I have been really nary all day. Ds1 woke up crying and coughing just when I thought I had got 2 settled then dh comes home from work and all he wants to do is play on computer. Andmum cancelled visit so feeling bit sorry for myself.

Ginga I hope you had a better day today. I can't imagine how it is possible to cope with more than one child!! There are moments when I get DD settled... and then realise I haven't... when I could cry. And that's without an older one to be worrying about too. Also, if my DH came home and wanted to play on the computer I think I'd scream (hormones or no hormones!)! Mine is swamped with work at the moment and even though I know he doesn't want to be glued to the screen any more than I want him to be, it still ruffles my feathers the wrong way.

I am still waiting for the thrush drugs to stop the pain... tomorrow will be day three so really hoping to notice a difference soon.......

Haha gwennie I'll give you one guess what DH is doing right now... Having only come in the door 10 mins ago from the pub, and having definitely enjoyed more than a few pints

hello all.. meningitis scare sounds terrifying ray, i am hoping your little ones immune system is really working well now after fighting the germies. and em did they offer you any counselling?

Gwennie i have had awful boob pain since birth. was told it was normal at first! then slowly put together that it wasn't normal and was told thrush by breastfeeding counsellor. agony, absolute agony, brought me to tears many a day so feeling your pain... Suffice to say i am much better. still get the deep pain every now and then oddly,butsaw a homeopath and think it worked, either that or getting boobs out in fresh air so who can say. also get some probiotics if you can and cut outsugar as much as poss.

Also, i have really noticed that what i eat has bit impact on baby. have cut out dairy and baby acne is almost gone. she was very very upset by cauliflower and the raw garlic episode too, have had good but bland diet recently and quite literally have a different baby. well at the moment anyway, will update in a few days and see if that all seems true or aload of bollocks!!!

sweet dreams mumies and babies x

Hello, bear in mind deep breast pain may also be blocked milk ducts. I was also told pain was normal by breastfeeding support and midwife but lactation consultant massaged the areas while baby was sucking and the pain went way!

Hi everyone

Rayray Glad jude is better, i can't imagine how worried you must have been.

ginga I hope you feel better, i had a few bad stressful days early on and understand how upsetting it can be.

Emblosion I'm sure your ds will be fine,he won't be at all damaged don't worry,he obviously has a lovely mum who is doing a great job x

We have just returned from dd's first holiday! we spent a few days in a static in wales and had a lovely time.I was worried dd may have been unsettled but she was fine,she continued to sleep through and has started 'talking' to you when you interact with her which is lovely, she is also trying really hard to hit the toys on her bouncy chair and sometimes manages it.
Dd2 is concerning me a bit as she as become a little bit anxious and teary which i'm keeping an eye on,she has an IQ which is on the 99.9th percentile which brings with it lots of sensitivities anyway but she has become alot worse recently.
I hope nobody minds me asking this but has anyone weighed themselves? is anyone back to pre pregancy weight?
I made the mistake of stepping on the scales and i'm still nearly a stone over,i'm not going to do anything about it but i'm interested to hear about everyone else,do you think weight could still come off by itself at this stage?

Glad you had a good holiday mrsshears! Did you have good weather?

How old is your DD2? Could it be anticipation of the new school year? Or perhaps she's having difficulty adjusting to the summer holidays with no schoolwork, or just the change in routine? I may be way off the mark with all that, but it just crossed my mind...

I've not been weighed since my 12 week scan, and tbh I don't want to know! I'm just going by what I look like and what I can fit into. I can now squeeze into a pair of linen trousers which I couldn't get into about 2 months ago, so that made me happy!

surf it will be interesting to hear how you cutting out foods affects DD. I'm trying to drink more decaffeinated tea, but I'm not doing it in such a way that I can judge if it affects DS!

Watching the diving with DS snoozing across my lap, the cat asleep on the table to my left, and DH still playing on his computer to my right.

Lovely thanks tea, mid twenties for most of the time.
Dd2 has just turned 6, i think it is probably related to dd3 as well as the change in routine, she is complex at the best of times although also an absolute joy too.
I can't get into my pre pregnacy jeans yet and know i look big still but fingers crossed it could still even out yet as it's still early days isn't it?

Hi guys,

Mrsshears there is a really good book called beating the female fat cell after pregnancy - or something like that, which explains how it is relatively hard to loose weight fast and not advisable if you are bf. I have been trying to do twenty mins of exercise a day, yoga mainly, and chasing after ds1 and ds2 is nine weeks and I have gone from a size sixteen after birth to a twelve more or less. I still have that apron of fat tummy but tha will take a while if ever to go. There is another book about the tuplermethod which claims that we have a diastasis which is the space between tummy muscles that has widened and we need to close it again.
My ds1 complaint of tummy and back pain but acting fine so wondering had he been listning to us talking about ds2 tummy pain.
I do believe dieting is pointless so have been eating heartily but I think this works to boost metabolism and avoid fat cells thinking they need to store which is a mistake people make.
Gwennie dh now addicted to scrabble on iPad. He was doing this as I was preparing ds1 dinner and bath v irritating.
Do people believe lactating good enough contraception?
Surfmama my baby has acne, other than no dairy what else have you cut out?

hi all

nothing exciting going on here.

em slept 8 hours last night, which was marvellous, we have noticed she sleeps better after a poo, and yesterday she was erupting all day, so we expected a decent snooze! wish the same could be said for DS, sigh.

DH has just got us a google nexus tablet as a wedding anniversary gift, so I'm looking forward to trying that out soon! will be ace for long journies with children. I'm flying up to glasgow with the kids on my own soon, so it will accompany me to keep DS in his seat!!

oh, and for those not on our fb group, a) message me if you'd like to join, and b) we are (some of us) meeting up this sunday, near london, so do message me or teaandhobnobs if you are in the area and wish to come along!

Hi all

Sorry haven't been on here much...fb just easier!

Ds sound asleep so taking advantage while it lasts. He has started liking the pram much more now so walks are easier...we were at the beach this morning and he loves looking round him...seems to amuse him for ages! Cute to see him really noticing..he seems to have a fascination with trees!

ray how scary, glad Jude is ok. Friends of our had triplets who all contracted meningitis at 3 months and all are totally fine now. Must have been scary though.

emblosion so sorry you've been having a tough time and hoping the meds help.

Nothing new with me....envious of those meeting up on Sunday. Had a rough day yesterday as ds was really cranky..he's so heavy now and when he wants carried constantly it really hurts my shoulders and back. The joints in my hands are still swollen but I really think its hormonal rather than rhuematoid arthritis...should get results tomorrow so keeping everything crossed. Really hope we have a better day today. Going out with mum this afternoon which will be lovely...I hate being stuck indoors all day.

My parents are taking ds on fri night and dh and I are getting a much needed night out and a good sleep. My mum bought a cot so it's easy for him to go and stay. They love having him so it's good to take advantage! I can't wait as dh and I never get any time together in the evenings as ds is really cranky then.

We had a day out on sat at a national trust place but came home early after a pooplosion covered my white trousers and ds ended up wearing only a nappy!

Waves to everyone else x

Oh dear Warlin that is a serious poosplosion!

I complained to DH on Sunday when he was holding DS that he would get ketchup on DS's clothes (DH had ketchup on his t-shirt, messy oaf ) - I needn't have worried as DS did a massive up-the-back-of-the-nappy poo which went all over DH's t-shirt

DS has a thing about doing massive poos when we go to the park cafe - is he trying to tell me something? He loves the trees too, he was staring at them for ages! That and light fittings and paintings on the wall.

Hope the results from the doc are helpful. My wrists are getting worse, but I'm guessing there's not a lot to be done about it.

Hope you get a lovely Friday night with your DH I am sad you can't be there Sunday (although totally unrealistic to expect you to be there!), but I hope I do get to meet up with you at some point

Kveta you are a brave lady travelling with 2 on your own! (although I think smallwonder is flying with 4, which makes her at least twice as crazy ). Excellent idea about the tablet though shame its not a sleeping tablet?

Hello everyone else

DS is 16 weeks today, I can't believe it. I went out with some colleagues last night (doing a treasure hunt organised by a client in central London, bonkers!) - the longest I've been away from DS so far, 4.5 hours (not counting nights in SCBU). DH had him in his office all evening DS then managed a complete unprecedented 4.5 hr sleep, which I guess was due to the two 4oz bottles he consumed in the evening. Hmmm, it won't be easy to do that every often!

MIL rant coming up....

DH's birthday yesterday. MIL invites herself over from many many hours' drive away. So many hours it necessitates inviting herself to stay with my parents to break the journey on the way here and back. Slightly aggrieved at her inviting herself as was a significant birthday and DH's first as a father, and he has to be away this weekend, so had sort of hoped we could do something nice together. However, having just had baby has changed my perspective on motherhood so acknowledge MIL has every right (more than me, probably) to want to see her DS on his birthday.

She arrives much later than expected, greets DH and ignores me completely to rush to baby. Delighted she is so smitten with DD but it is my house too! We cook lunch while she cuddles DD - this is absolutely fine and gives me a chance to help DH for once. She then unpacks box of old stuff she has brought (this is a recurrent theme - she is a hoarder but seems to like to offload her keepings onto unsuspecting relatives. My house is tiny, and, oddly enough has recently been filled with all sorts of baby things too!)

We go for muddy walk to get some fresh air. Remembering last muddy walk with MIL, as we go through a particularly sticky bit, I say in a silly voice to DD "Oooh muddy muddy, it'll be shoes off all round when we get hime, won't it DD? Shooes off! Shooes off!". We get home and DH makes quite a thing about him taking his boots off, then going to get a card for the neighbour so I can drop it in next door before I have to take my shoes off. I come back and take mine off. MIL has marched straight in and is merrily walking over DD's homemade rug and playmat. In filthy shoes. She then accompanies DH upstairs on our cream carpets to witness nappy change. I know this sounds petty but I can't bear mud on the floors and hoovering at the moment is an operation that requires a month's planning!

Then, to top it all, she allowed DH to pay to take her out for his own birthday meal.

Oh heck, I should have put this in AIBU!!!! Sorry

All better now!

What a 'mare Gwen!! I'd've told the bitchwitch to leave! Can't stand it when people are so obtusely ignorant and selfish to the needs of others, I mean who doesn't take their shoes off in someone else's house or at least offer to... And the subject of paying for his own birthday dinner is appalling - when DH graduated he had to pay for his parents tickets, drinks AND meal as they have no jobs, money nor it seems pride, my parents bought a round out of politeness and were shocked when DH got his wallet out to pay for their meals! They didn't even get him a card or present...

I myself have MASSIVE MIL ishoos. The latest of which is beyond ridiculous, but that's another story.

Us DIL's have got to stick together and remember that 'this too shall pass'!

Hope you feel better now Xx

how annoying gwen! although hopefully J will enjoy the white noise of the hoover and will let you do it in peace?! (em loves me hoovering, damned child!!). does your MIL wear her shoes around her own house btw? my parents don't, and never put hot cups down without a mat at home, but here they leave a trail of destruction behind them, and stomp about in filthy shoes. it's strange, given that dad gets a fit of the vapours if we sit on his chairs/sofa in outdoor trousers. seriously...

I am annoyed just now because DS will be 3 next month, so am sorting out his party, and one friend couldn't come last year as she works alternate saturdays, so last month I asked which of 2 saturdays suited her best. agreed a date, I have lovingly ripped off and printed from t'internet handcrafted some invitations, got them glued and ready to post, and she has just informed she won't be coming as she's on holiday then. booked it 3 months ago. grr! only a wee irritation, but still annoyed me. luckily DS is totally oblivious to the whole thing.

Hi all, well we have had a cranky, sleepless, screamy day today! A has finally conked out beside me on the bed after refusing to nap all day. He's been much more settled lately so not sure what's up..... Growth spurt perhaps?

gwennie your mil sounds like a nightmare, I'd have had to say something about the carpets!

Hope you all have a lovely meet up. V sorry I can't be there x x

Gwennie how awful!! Even if she wears shoes in her house, can't believe she walked over the playmat in shoes or bare foot She sounds a delight! My MIL is in SA and is mostly lovely but I realised that we will be there when DD is 6 months and I will have a food battle on my hands,as she is the only person who has ever given DS coke... Blondie did you ever resolve the smoking issue with your MIL?
Really looking forward to the meet up on Sunday think it'll be weird but in a good wat

You lot are all so polite to your MILs!

I have got such a reputation with my in-laws for speaking my mind that I think they watch what they say a bit in front of me now We've had a couple of minor rows over the years, but they've always blown over, and we actually get on very well. I am pretty embarrassed about how I've spoken to them sometimes, but I'd rather have said something than nothing.

I have a terribly blunt attitude which isn't always appreciated, but my opinion is you are doing no-one any favours by being meek and doormat-ish.

gwennie why did DH make a big show of taking his boots off and not just say "mother, take your shoes off please"?

ffnorm yy to Sunday! I can't believe that the people who've been my closest confidantes over the past year are people I've never met face to face!
I apologise in advance for any over enthusiastic hugging

How annoying gwennie. They sound like the kind of people who just won't take a hint I'd get your dh to follow tea's advice and just tell her straight next time!

I really wish I could be there for the meet up It's just too far for us to travel at the mo. Hope you all have a great time! Maybe someone can take pics and put them on the fb page so I feel I've been there?