June 2012 - Jubilant mums of Jubilee babies

[TeaandHobnobs]

It is Jubilee weekend - awaiting those babies!

So quiet here these days!

Isn't it?
I am still struggling to sleep despite baby sleeping! He has horrible sticky eye and intermittent colic poor thing. Dc1 still not one hundred per cent but prob just little virus says doc.
Thanks for asking tea.
Dh claims too tired for nooky so fed up tonight. I have my sex drive back!
Days go by in an exhausted haze of childcare and housework lol. Would not have it different just wish cld feel rested.

We are still here!
I had a tough few weeks with dd,hence me not posting much.
I breastfed dd2 for 8mths,she put on weight like a trooper and was always way above the 98th percentile so you would think breastfeeding dd3 would work well too,not the case.
After her being really unsettled, rapidly crossing the centiles and actually looking quite poorly i have reluctantly started mixed feeding.The change is amazing,she gained nearly a pound in a week (she was only 7 0z over her birthweight at nearly 7 weeks old) and is now the happiest,lovely smiling, sleeping through the night baby.
I still BF between 7 and 7 and will do so for as long as dd wants to,i really dont get why she wasnt gaining? her latch is great and i have loads of milk and am eating well so its a bit of a mystery,im not beating myself up though and keep telling myself i would rather have a happy content mixed fed baby rather than a exclusively breast fed baby who isnt.
Hope everyone is well >>waves

Hi all

Gosh it's quiet on here these days... Everyone must be busy

Just got time for a quick post while ds naps. My brother is home from the states at the moment with his 3 year old twins so has been a hectic few days. His dd is so good and ds such hard work...together they are dynamite! Makes me realise what's in store for me with my little man! we are all going for tea tonight so god help the other diners :)

tea it sounds like you could have done with the counselling weeks ago rather than now but hope you get something out of it anyway. It is hard to cope on the bad days... I'm mostly fine but was actually thinking of how I don't mind going back to work.... Was having a rough day yesterday though! It can be relentless can't it?? Can't believe my wee man will be 10 weeks tmw and is getting too big for the 0-3 clothes.. Where did the time go.

We have the babybjorn carrier and I really like it. Ds settles well, though he enjoys dribbling all over my chest when he's in it . I do find after an hours walk, my thighs hurt under the weight but think that's more to do with my fitness than anything! Ds doesn't like the pram after he's eaten so it's easier to use the sling when dog walking.

What does everyone dress their Los in at night? I seem to stress every night that he is too hot and then too cold during the night. I find the gro bags a bit fiddly and awkward if I need to change him during the night so I tend to use a babygro without a vest and a blanket. Not sure he'd bee warm enough in a vest.....?

Waves to everyone x

Ps loving the Olympics too... Team GB doing great now! Will be sad when it's over

mrsshears that sounds very much like the situation my mum had with me - no idea why, but I just wasn't taking on enough milk (I think I was maybe just an inefficient feeder). She switched to ff at about 2 months, and I just flourished. Even now she still feels a bit unhappy about not being able to bf (seeing me bf DS has brought up a lot of memories I think), but it was definitely the right thing to do. Great that you are managing to mix feed though, the best of both worlds, surely?

I've just been to sing at a wedding and left DS with DH and FIL for 2.5 hrs - the longest I've been apart from him since he came home! It was very odd, rather like a return to my old life, and there was the odd moment when I actually forgot I have a son!

Warlin I find the bedtime clothing situation tricky too, especially as he often gets cold from around 4 or 5am (usually because he's damp from all the vomit). I nearly always have him in a vest and babygro, because he feels the cold easily, but then he is swaddled in a flannelette sheet with as many blanket layers as appropriate - so only one when been warm lately. He just won't settle if he's not snug and warm.

Little milk monster is now guzzling 4oz of expressed milk in one sitting - I'm going to have to pump a bit more often, as he has annihilated my freezer stash this weekend! But all this constant eating is definitely paying dividends - he is growing at a rate of knots! Weigh in on Tuesday, so I wonder how much he will have gained?

At night we put Ada in either a long sleeved vest or gro and her grobag! My fave for night changes (if we have to) is long sleeved vest as just 3 poppers after undoing the zip of the grobag! Also have the too hot to begin with, too cold by 4/5am but she is so close to sleeping through sometimes temperature is the deciding factor, so we've got all manner of gadgetry going on thermometers, windows open millimetres, must be crazy but we are so desperate for her to finally go that last couple of hours as she's currently sleeping 11-4/5 and 11-7 would be magic :D

Absolutely exhausted but will post more tomorrow :)

Warlin, My ds is very big and gets hot easily so he sleeps in a short sleeved outfit and just a folded cellular. He also gets colder as night goes on o sometimes add one more cellular layer. I also went barmy trying to get it right in the beginning but am fairly sure too hot is worse than too cold so I err on the cool side. I go by his chest temp and the room temp so two layers at twenty and one at twenty two and none at twenty four. We have been co sleeping for to months in a king size but this morning my duvet slipped over him so he is back in moses basket. I was getting up to six hour stretches with him asleep but wakes more frequently in basket but safety first. Anyone else co sleeping have tips?
How do you manage mixed feeding mrsshears? I cannot interest ds in a bottle.
His eyes have cleared up and ds 1 tummy on the mend I think.

morning 4 hours what a treat. Ginga yes we co sleep, although have been putting summer down in cot recently with the aid of the hairdryer, her favourite noise! i had the duvet over side if bed and up to my waist, tucked in my legs so there wasn't any on her side and her in vest, babygrow and her little crochet blankie. also ad one pillow that i carefully tucked behind my head. she has just had a french man's milk as i have a spot of cystitis and don't want antibiotics so am chomping on 2 cloves of rae garlic a day - poor kid!

Thanks Tea you are right, I would have felt even worse if i hadn't been able to breast feed at all.

Dd sleeps in a growbag in a vest and babygrow,sometimes we don't bother with the vest if its hot,dd seems to really feel the cold and wakes up if we use any less clothing etc.
If we end up with an early morning (half 5,6 ish) and dd isnt keen to go back into her cot we co sleep for a couple of hours,i put dd over the top of the duvet in the crook of my arm whilst i go underneath,that way the duvet can't go over her.

ginga The feeding is working well thanks,basically i ff in the day generally 7 til 7 and bf at all other times or if dd wants comfort.If your ds is not keen on a bottle a heberman feeder may help,they are primarily for babies with special needs but are great for bf babies who are not keen on a bottle. www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=haberman+feeder&tag=googhydr-21&index=aps&hvadid=9509969945&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13354420121346808656&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&ref=pd_sl_5dm9mwrobi_e

Hi all, Yes i suppose we have all been quite busy to post recently!

We usually have DS in sleepsuit both day and night, but change to vest if it's particularly warm. I also spend ages wondering if he's too hot or too cold. His body seems to feel about the same temperature regardless of what clothes and bedding i use, so i maybe shouldn't obsess so much.

DS has been really grizzly the last couple of weeks, and is never settling for long - hence not having much time to post. He's 7 weeks now, and i suspect what is happening is he's started to fight sleep and get overtired, and maybe i need to train him to soothe himself to sleep. But i'm not sure. I'm aware that when he was younger, all he ever wanted was either a feed or a cuddle, but now i'm completely losing confidence in my ability to work out what he wants, as he gets more complicated!

Hi all

Surf have you been drinking Cranberry juice - it really helps flush out cystitis

I put DD in a babygro and vest,then swaddled in a light flannel sheet (snap Tea) on the really hot nights I ditch the babygro but still swaddle.She's near the window which is always open.

MrsS sorry to hear the bf didn't work out as planned but at least you have found mixed feeding is working for you.

Shelduck just when you think you have them sussed they change the game plan just want to keep us on our toes!

Tea that's sad about your mum,that it still impacts on her about the bf. I must say,the fact that bf has worked out this time has helped resolve some of the sadness I felt/feel about not being able to with DS.

Ginga glad your DS's are on the mend!!

Hey all, this thread had dropped off threads I'm on! Must post more! Just posting now before bed so I can find you all again. Will be back to post properly soon

Yeah,everyone gone quiet I never posted much but loved reading all the news.Will try and post post more if you girls come back!xx

Hi all

Sorry for no posts in a long time. Have just read a few but failed to digest them!

Jude contracted meningitis on 15th July and spent a lengthy spell in hospitial. He was discharged home (new research suggests babies recover better at home) eventually on the basis of his meds being administer via IV (so cannula had to remain in place) daily by a nurse at home. This didn't work as cannula came out so had to have intermusclar injections. Thankfully that's now all finished. He had a first of a series of tests to check for any long term damage yesterday and they said everythig as far as they could tell was normal. He will have intermittent tests for the next 8 months, but thankfully he seems to have got away lightly in the end!

Temperature wise, whoever said cooler is better than warmer that is very very very much the case. A cold baby will tell you they are cold, a hot baby is unlikely to and convulsions can occur very easily in an overheated baby or child.

Hope everyone else is well. Going to try & get back up to speed with this thread & stick with it!

Hey all,

Rrray - so sorry Jude has been poorly but glad he's on the mend & everything seems ok. It must have been awful for you.

I haven't been on here for ages, just floating about on facebook. Sorry I haven't caught up properly with everyone but will try to from now on.

It's horrible to admit, but I've been having a pretty hard time, been diagnosed with pnd and started on meds. The last week or so has been awful, but I'm hoping to turn a corner soon. Wasn't sure whether to post about it or not but thought its best to be open & honest. It's horrible to feel so shit at a time when you want to be happy but hopefully it'll soon be behind me.

Love to all x

Emblosion - sorry to hear of pnd but yes def be open and honest about it. It's the time when you need support. My
Mother had awful pnd. Luckily I haven't suffered with dd and not with ds either so far apart from the odd "ah help me day. " Lol.

rrray how terrifying for you :( glad all seems to be fine now, but hope you're looking after yourself too after such an experience.

emblosion so sorry to hear of PND but well done for getting started with treatment. hope the medication kicks in swiftly. my mum had PND with my sister and went untreated - she regrets that now.

nothing much to report here, except Em has been very unsettled this week, can't put her down for a second, and she is screaming mid-feed too. 8 week jabs and check up tomorrow so will get them to make sure she's ok.

right, both children yelling at me, best go.

Thanks guys, I knew something wasn't right and wanted to try to nip it in the bud. It's horrible to admit you aren't feeling how you should be.. my DH, GP and health visitor have all been fab tho, so have lots of good support.... X

Golly, I haven't been on for so long the thing had logged me out! Definitely suffering from reduced mumsnet time!

tea I am wondering where you were singing for the wedding and where you have sung in the past? We probably have mutual acquaintances... I am fast learning that the muso world is stupidly small.

MrsS sounds like you have a good situation going on there. I think it must be important to be happy with what you're doing, surely.

rrray that sounds awful. I'm so glad you seem to have come through the other side and I hope all the tests to come go well.

emblosion you poor thing :( It's really good you've started the meds though and things will look brighter soon. I have suffered from depression in the past so my midwife and health visitor have been keeping a really close eye on me. So far I seem to have escaped but I do understand exactly what you are going through. (I was last treated just after I got married so I got a similar thing of feeling guilty feeling so crap when I should have been on top ofthe world.) The hormones do such bizarre things to us now too. I really hope you are feeling more "normal" soon xx

I am struggling on with breastfeeding... still not right and still painful and sore. At vast expense I have a lady coming this evening to help me again and this time hopefully to divide dd's tongue tie which I hope will make a difference. Otherwise I'm not quite sure how long I can carry on. Better wake the baby and get her organised, actually. I'm a bit nervous my little button is going to be hurt in this process :(

Will try to be more diligent posting here!

emblosion sorry to hear about the PND but a big well done to you for seeking help when you felt things weren't as they should be. Glad you've got lots of support and I hope you are feeling a bit better soon

rayray Sorry to heard about Jude, glad he is on the mend though!

Emblosion Well done you for noticing things weren't right and speaking up - so many people don't and it could get so much worse if you haven't got that amazing support network beside you!

Gwen I'll be honest it wasn't nice seeing DD have her tongue tie divided, but it has been so worth it!! She fed better instantly and it took just 6 days or so for the ulcer to heal. They scream but it's seconds and once they're back feeding they soon enough calm down.

Oh rrrayray I completely missed your post there! That sounds very scary, I'm glad Jude seems ok now.

Thanks all you are a lovely bunch!

Good luck with tongue-tie Gwen, hope it makes a big difference for you both x

Emblosion So sorry to hear you're suffering with Pnd. Having a newborn is hard enough without feeling down. I had a bit of Pnd after ds1 although I didn't realise till he was almost 8 months. It was quite mild but I had ADs and counselling and eventually felt a lot better. Has your gp offered you counselling? It's a good idea to have it along with the meds if you feel it'd help. ((hugs)) We're all here any time you need to chat.

Rrray So sorry to hear Jude has been so ill. That must have been terribly worrying I'm glad he's on the mend now and checks are showing all seems to be ok.

Gwennie Sorry you're still getting pain with the Breastfeeding. I was like that with ds2 and it can be so wearing From what I've heard of tongue tie separations they really aren't that bad. The younger they have them done the better and it's just a second of pain. Apparently some babies sleep through it and others cry a little. Breastmilk has pain relieving qualities so at least you'll feel able to help lo by feeding immediately afterwards Hope it goes ok x

Oscar has just finished feeding so gonna try get some sleep

Well dd seemed more angry at having her arms swaddled so she couldn't shove both fists in her mouth than having her tongue snipped! She wailed a bit but was soon pacified with a feed. Then, bizarrely and amazingly, she slept from 11-6. I am now panicking this was too long as the midwife was quite keen to know she would feed in the middle of the night so the wound wouldn't just heal up back how it was..... oh dear.....

It also turns out that the incredible searing pain I've had constantly in between feeds isn't the let-down reflex at all (naive first timer assuming that was normal...). Hey - you're not supposed to need to live on a cocktail of paracetamol and ibuprofen just to get you through - who knew?!! So I am now on mega whack antibiotics for thrush in all departments! Hope it helps. At the moment it's difficult to tell if the tongue tie has made much difference as I have been so dosed up on painkillers for the other stuff, but I think she has been pinching less this morning :) :) She's also flat out after only one side so I wonder if she fed more efficiently just now. Fingers crossed we really are getting there now!