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October 2011: Crawling, teething and (we hope) sleeping through

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Penelope1980 · 30/04/2012 00:03

Sorry guys - posted the 1000th message without realising Blush, so hopefully you can all find this thread!

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MamaMaiasaura · 01/06/2012 09:52

Sassy sorry that your mum gas been poorly Sad. Glad she is home. Aa others said, don't worry about catching up. Eek at salt content, tho you are right. I stopped using stock cubes when ds2 was weaning. My fav meal to make is chicken casserole as so healthy. Carrot, courgette, onion, potato, plum tomatoes and chicken with a little water. Cooked really slowly at 160.

Re cutting milk, I thought same as milk main source for first 12 months. So far J woke at 5 (well 4.30 but she played quietly for a bit) so actually got some sleep from 11pm dream feed. She has had milk at 5. Dh took her at 6, another quick bfeed and snooze at 7am. Breakfast at 8, just a bit of peach, porridge and yoghurt. And another bfeed now and she's sleeping.

I think my 2 little ones are coming down with something.. Prob chicken pox as ds2 best friend broke out in spots on Monday and they'd played together on the Sunday. He's not gone to preschool as scared of the planes in the sky Sad bless him. That's his main thing as they hurt his ears.

MamaMaiasaura · 01/06/2012 09:58

Has not gas Sad stupid iPhone and my fat fingers

sassy34264 · 01/06/2012 10:49

mamma i say my fudge fingers.

i know i did most of my reading 12 years ago silent scream
but this is my understanding- not mentioning anyone by name cos i dont want people to feel bad and i cant remember!

adult food is too salty. just checked weetabics (asda's) salt is written as 0.9 sodium which is 2.2 grams (already twice too much of daily allowance for 1 biscuit)
sunny start babies equivalent is 0.05 sodium. it doesnt give the salt equivalent (pa is a smart one, maybe she can help me work it out) im guessing its about 4 times the sodium equals the salt equivalent.

tea hinders the absorption of iron.
milk should be the MAIN nutritional food until 12 months
and cows milk isnt suitable cos it hasnt the iron equivalent, its hard to digest and can cause internal bleeding to the kidneys.

i not sure i should post this or not, but if i was giving eva something that someone knew was unsuitable- id want to know.

not done to cause offence at all- done out of genuine concern. x

elgoldenflower · 01/06/2012 10:50

I've also mainly dropped off thread as life's just too hectic. TFI Friday and half term next week so I can be home with L

Sleep's still iffy here but getting better. DP is doing lots of night settling which hi helping alot!

sassy so sorry about your mum!

mama your routine sounds just like ours except L has an extra afternoon nap. Good to see someone else still bfing a lot, it's blooming hard work now I'm back at work.

PA thanks for vegan food ideas you posted ages ago! Gonna try to make some baba ganoush next week. It's two months wait to see paediatrician so goodness knows when we'll get to see the dietician! So ideas are very gratefully received!

bubalie if you are still checking in, we had the same trouble with move to own room, it is getting better and he often wakes in the morning and just rolls and babbles in his cot happily without shouting for me. So hang on in there. It will get better and we definitely disturb him less. Even though he still wakes quite a lot.

Hello to everyone else

sassy34264 · 01/06/2012 10:55

3 times even!

Engelsmeisje · 01/06/2012 10:57

Actually now I think of it, it's more like twice in 4 years that I've seen my friend. Would have been a good excuse to see family, but my sister's wedding i 3 weeks before so we'll be back for that. I don't reckon I could go to ceremony as we'd end up travelling all the way to UK on Friday and then all the way back on saturday. I would do that for a really good friend, but not someone who's barely been in touch for the last few years. I made so much effort with people when I first moved out here - emails, letters, hauling my arse up to London everytime we went back to the UK - and I didn;t really get the effort back from people so I've pulled back the last few years. If people want me then they know where I am (though most people seem to think that phoning Holland will entail remortgaging their house Grin ).

So...reckon I will just buy something nice and try to pop and see them when we?re over on our travels at some point.

Cheshire I wonder if it?s worse for you to read on an e-reader than a paperback before bed? (hides kindle)

I like Elijah!

sassy is that herbal tea (like mint or cammomile) as well?

mama Sad for poorly LOs. You've made me want to have chicken casserole tonight now.

Yay for half term! I only have 5 weeks of school left!

Engelsmeisje · 01/06/2012 10:58

not sure where elden came from!

sassy34264 · 01/06/2012 11:07

herbal

Penelope1980 · 01/06/2012 11:27

I totally empathise with what you say engels about people not making the effort when it is you to leave a country. I am a good emailer and tele-phoner, but it's like other people can't get their heads around the time difference, and it was always me to phone or arrange to skype. In all my time living in the UK, I only got one phonecall from home, everyone else would ask me to call them.

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Engelsmeisje · 01/06/2012 11:43

my best friend lives in Auckland pen and I think that because we both live away from family we make double the effort. She always goes to the effort of phoning people on their birthday because she's more organised than me . My youngest sister didn't acknowledge my birthday this year and last year she forgot (she was in Oz)...she blamed the time difference (which makes no sense because she's ahead Hmm ).

It's taken me a while to come to terms with the fact that people are busy withtheir own lives and some of them don't have the room for me anymore iyswim. It is a bit sad, but have quietly said goodbye to a fw friens in my own head as I cannot see them ever bothering to get in touch off their own backs again.

I tried once to actully tell one of my friends how I felt about her lack of contact (she never returned my calls of emails) and she sent me very long and patronising email saying that I would "soon discover that once you have children it is not possible to have long phone conversations in the evening", that her daughter was and always will be her priority (of course!) and that I was selfish and self-centred. It made me feel really horrible (was 8 months pregnant at the time) but also made me see that it was silly for me to get upset about someone who wasn't really important in my life.

Yuck...Max has just thrown up on me. smells like sour banana. off to change my jeans .

sassy34264 · 01/06/2012 11:45

i can empathise and i stll live in england. since i had twins and subsquently eva, i have lost 6 rl friends cos i no longer put all the effort in. i use to ring them, visit them etc.
i havent the time or the inclination anymore. sod um.

engels i wish i could run 15k race. Envy had just started back the gym after my shin splints healed and then my mum happened. (i cant get my head around it. she's not even 60. ) that, plus healthy eating and this bloody sickness bug as meant ive lost a stone though. so only 3 to go! i will be doing a triathlon this time next year.

im sure someone asked me something, but i cant remember.

oh and hello lookout meant to say that every post- brain is not what it was!

just got some good news i think one of the houses me and dp have bought has gone through today- going to pick up the keys soon. lots of hard work to come though, but it is the only way to have enough money for all 4 kids to go to uni.

Scheherezade · 01/06/2012 11:52

Sassy, just checked our box of weetabix. Per 2 biscuits is 0.1g salt. Supermarket own brands are infamous for being full of crap.

sassy34264 · 01/06/2012 12:01

mamma hope its not chicken pox. i had a long standing meeting with some friends and couldnt make it cos of my mum. one of them posted that very night on fb that her ds had chicken pox.

glad i side stepped that encounter- 3 under 2's with chicken pox!!!! bejeezus i would need a good stock of alcohol and chocolate for that little adventure.

Engelsmeisje · 01/06/2012 12:14

I am such a doofus...I've already seen True Blood season 4. I must have watched it in the last 6 months. Can I still blame baby brain?

yay for new house sassy ! I'm not entirely convinced that I can run 15k (but I'll give it a go). I love public humiliation Grin

It's only since I've stopped making the effort with other people that I've realised that it was always me making the effort. Still, plenty of time for a few long phone calls in the evening Grin

Scheherezade · 01/06/2012 12:16

So 1 biscuit= 0.05g. So (my maths is rubbish) that's 5% daily allowance. Which is hardly abuse. But I'm really fussy about what food we eat, only buy decent meat etc as otherwise its loaded with water so you're getting less value for money.

C slept through the time he'd normally have a bottle, had some (natural, organic, milk only) yoghurt with fresh blueberries. He's doing ok I think!

Can't wait till later on in the year, the hedgerows and my yard are full to bursting with blackberries and slows, plus we have a massive damson tree in our garden, and the neighbour has plums. At least C will be regular Grin

sassy34264 · 01/06/2012 12:44

lol scheh no definately not abuse! but not to be pedantic but i am. i looked up weetabix and it is 0.24g per 2 biscuits. which is 0.12g. add a slice of wholemeal bread 0.4 and a diarylea triangle 0.5 (i think) and its over 1 g. that's not including the salt in the butter or the formula milk or the third meal.

not trying at all to say people are abusing their babies. just trying to say that adult foods push you over without you realising.

Smile so you dont think im being funny. x

sassy34264 · 01/06/2012 12:47

eng im the opposite. i love proving everyone wrong- i get a glint in my eye and a steely determination! if you've done 10k recently, you can train for the extra 5k- hills, smills! Grin

you go girl........... Wink

Scheherezade · 01/06/2012 13:10

It's 0.26g per 100g, not per biscuit, 0.1g per 2 biscuits (2 biscuits weigh 37.5g).

www.weetabix.co.uk/products/cereals/weetabix#titleNutritionalInformation

Scheherezade · 01/06/2012 13:11

oh, just saw the "salt equivalent" !! Anyway he only gets it on weekends. And its a bit of a moot point now as C decided he doesn't want to eat (anything that isn't bread, yoghurt or fruit) so I've given him a bottle.

PenguinArmy · 01/06/2012 13:40

i am shocked at how much salt is in asda weetabix. Our standard morning meal is plain oats, just goes the biggest salt issue is whether you buy your food made or not (and people do consider breakfast cereal a fast food). salt is just under 2.5 times the sodium content.

sassy34264 · 01/06/2012 14:17

shhh penguin i may have miscalculated read the box wrong

but that doesnt detract from my most marvelous point.

Grin
PenguinArmy · 01/06/2012 14:18
Grin
PenguinArmy · 01/06/2012 14:20

i have a confession...

... last time i saw the physio she said i could start very gentle jogging so that when i was ready i had some kind of base leel fitness. I haven't told anyone nor done anything and this was 6 weeks ago

sassy34264 · 01/06/2012 15:02

i have a confession...

i snuggled down then to read something juicy!!!!

umph.. Grin

why? do you not want to? cba?

what was your sport of choice- i forget.

CheshireDing · 01/06/2012 15:12

No offence but I cannot be bothered wondering whether all your maths calculations for ingredients are correct or not (won't dwell on the fact I am trying to run a business) Grin. I am sure somebody once said not to feed adult weetabix though because of the sugar/salt (can't remember which) and no to gravy too. This why I ended up trying to think of loads of alternatives for breakfast, we got P porridge oats but she doesn't like those and I only give her bread every other day. P had a sundried tomato and a little parmesan the other day so I do try and consciously think what she needs to have a break from the next day because of "baddies" in the foods.

We used to live in Oz and one particular week a friend AND BIL rang on different days at about 3am, I mean ffs it's not that difficult to realise if they are at work we will be in bed. AND AND?both woke us up and then BIL said his train was coming and friend said he had to go to a meeting. DH & I were "oh thanks for the 2 minute phone call that woke us up". When we came back to the UK and moved to a different county our friends from the old county have been here twice in 4 years. We have been down there (it's 50 minutes away) loads but people can't be arsed to return the favour. Pisses me off slightly upsets me, one of my Ushers still hasn't even seen P and he only lives in Manchester city centre :(

I do wonder if fb etc makes people lazy

Sassy how many houses have you bought then?

None of the babies drink builders tea do they? I thought proper builders tea was REALLY bad 'cos of the tanine/caffeine etc. Mint tea is good for wind though and camomile for sleep through bf, that's what mw told me anyway.

DH has gone off with P to buy her something Jubilee-ish to wear, God knows what they will come back with and I am supposed to be working but wondering if there is any point as everyone will be relaxing for Bank Hol. Maybe I will clean the toilets. Does anyone still dust?

Engels that "friend" sounds horrid witchy :(

Yes somebody did want to eat their placenta didn't they Pene, (double barf)

What's an e-reader?