October 2011: Crawling, teething and (we hope) sleeping through

[Penelope1980]

Sorry guys - posted the 1000th message without realising , so hopefully you can all find this thread!

last week sounds tough.

Oh, I didn't see your name, honest!

C absolutely hates co sleeping, and being in same room as us. I kept him in with us till 6 months (when I went into MBU) and he'd wake every 2 hours, then in MBu he went into nursery at night on his own, slept through and was a lot, lot happier in the day for the extra sleep. Anytime i bring him back into the same room he is disturbed all night.

I wanted to bf till he was one, but it was a choice of a section 3 (6months forced inpatient treatment and forcibly injected) or stopping and taking meds.

I don't leave him all night, he goes down at 7, then I check on him/re position him at 10/11ish. He wakes 6-7.

scheh don't feel paranoid. No need. Honestly, I wasn't saying that you should cosleep etc, I was saying I do and that some people would say it wasn't what they would do. Everyone does their best and what feels right for them. It's all anyone can do. Poor you tho with the s3 and depot threat . I think there is an incredible amount of pressure on "parenting style" choices. IMO as long as your child is loved then in general the choices a parent makes are often the right ones for that child and parent at that moment in time.

scheh it sounds like you've had a really tough week I hope things pick up for you soon. As mama said everyone parents differently and it sounds like you are doing a great job in tough circumstances. Mama is right about co-sleeping to there is no way I could do it the very idea terrifies me I wouldn't sleep for fear of squashing W but it works for mama and that's fine I've done things others wouldn't we all have, as an example we put W in his own room at 3mo as he had outgrown his basket and we couldn't get a cot in our room whereas others wouldn't put babies in their own room until at least 6mo. But again it worked for us. Hope this helps a little xx

Scheh - just want to echo what the others have said, we all do our best and different babies need different things. Don't feel badly hon. If it helps to know, I did cc with ds1 and didn't with ds2 - ds1 is very balanced and has more empathy than ds2 which if you believe some people is the opposite way round.

I hope things are improving for you.

I'm doing well on the sertraline, haven't yelled or cried since Wednesday which must be a record! Some side effects but nothing too terrible.

Thanks :) there's so much guilt when you're a parent!

Great news jnice I've heard good things about sertraline. It's just a matter of finding the right meds that work for you.

just wanted to say scheh that you know your baby better than anyone, and you do whats best for your baby and your family as a whole. for our part we resisted doing cc for a long time, and tried everything else. we co-slept for a while (really didnt want to as i really need space in bed due to back and joint problems), and it did work for a bit then we got to the point where we were all just waking each other up all night, even when we put him back in his cot. with the constant night waking and screaming (despite being cuddled/rocked/walked around) we decided to try cc as a last resort. it worked very quickly and N has been a much happier baby as he sleeps so much better now. he can settle if he wakes himself up, and only needs 2 feeds through the night (as opposed to the hours spent on my boobs comfort feeding)

i'm also a better mother. i'm no longer crying all the time because i'm knackered. i have the energy to interact and play with him that i've been lacking for some time, and me and DP get on so much better because we're not so tired.

i know its not for everyone, you have to find what works for you, but you should never feel guilty for it - agree theres so much guilt as a parent already, so dont heap more on to yourself!! i also agree with mama, as long as your child is loved then in general the choices you make as a parent are right for you at that moment in time.

finally fwiw, N is similar in that he does like to be carried about, and he's not a baby you can just sit on your knee either! i did get a sling which was ok for a while, but my back probs are getting worse so cant really use it at the mo. hope things are improving for you, at least theres a great bunch of people on this thread (and MN in general) for support

scheh bit late but I totally agree with the others - don't feel bad about the coices you make. That thread was from an article that, from my limited understanding, was based on a silly trial on a tiny number of babies who were in a strange situation, away from their parents, and left to cio. It was also funded by an AP group, so may not have been impartial. FWIW, we did cc with ds1 and he's a charming, well-balanced, kind-hearted and funny boy. As far as I can see no permanent damage done .

And as for the sleeping 12 hours - I'd take it! You know your baby better than anyone else and would know if he wasn't doing well with not night feeding. I am a bit at you getting a full night's sleep, if truth be known!

We also put E in his own room at 3 months, for similar reasons to ips. We just couldn't sleep in the same room as him, would wake him with snoring/moving around in bed/getting up for the loo etc. Not all parents would do it but we did cos it was right for us. I know of others who have always slept their babies on their tummies - it worked for them. Each to his own, and never let anyone make you feel guilty about the choices you make.

I shall step down from my soapbox

we have to do what keeps us well

Brilliant posts, thanks guys, you've made me feel a lot better!

lookout DP gets a full nights sleep! I had to put up with sedative withdrawal- no sleep or food for days.

Great post ips I was the same, resisted cc for a ling time, but he seems so much happier for it now.

Jnice good news about the meds hope you continue to feel better

Hope everyone has been enjoying the sunny weekend. We went to Marwell Zoo this afternoon DH and I had great fun looking at all the animals and W had fun looking at all the people - don't think he's quite got the hang of zoos yet

strawberry I forget you are local. I love marwell. Fav place is Paultons tho, got passes and go when we can.

sche i'm on catch up, sorry I didn't realise about the sedatives. Sounds rough Hope things are getting better for you.

sp we took ds1 when he was about 3 I think, on a hot day like today, and all the bl**dy animals were indoors out of the heat . He's never been keen on zoos/farms since then!

Would runny nappies be more a sign of teething or something he's eaten. Two of them today and a bit worried that I've given him something that doesn't agree

Also what would you put with red wine to make it moer summery? Except citrus as that gives E runny nappies too!

lookout S had about 4 days of 3x daily runny nappies last week. Her bum was bright red . She wasn't off her food so I put it down to teething. Hope all better soon

Yep, we've got the bright red bum too. Been slathering the calendula on in the hope it'll get better.

Does little one have any teeth yet? S still hasn't any and none on way by looks of it! I'm not convinced she will have any until she is 1!

Nope, no teeth yet! Keep thinking I can see bulging gums but...nothing! Ds1 had his 1st 2 teeth at 5 months, so this waiting business is all new to us!

Had a picnic in the garden with N today and he ate more solids than ever. Had pitta bread, some pasta twirls, almost a whole yoghurt and 2 green beans. Al fresco dining seems to suit him!!
Still no poo tho.... He's been unsettled this evening and I think he's getting bowel spasms, keeps bringing knees up to chest and rolling over then pumping away :( he's on lactulose, drinking plenty of water, don't think there's anything else we can do, just wait for it to improve. Going swimming tues so he'll prob wait til then n do one in the pool!!

fuzzzy no teeth here yet! Though like lookout I can see them in his gums they are just refusing to come out.

mama I forget where everyone is too. We are in South Wonston on the outskirts of Winchester. Not been to Paultons for years! Will have to take W when he's a bit older We are thinking of Marwell passes as it was good for an interesting walk round when stuck for something to do but would be too expensive to keep popping to otherwise.

We have 2 tiny front teeth that look like rodent teeth! More coming too if the upset baby at night time is anything to go by ...

M is currently grunting away at us like a silver back gorilla

M has has a lot of trouble settling with the warm weather. yesterday he woke up at 5, took us an hour to settle him and then we woke up at 8.20 in a panic, late for getting ready for our day out.

Think he was having trouble pooing as well yesterday (think he didn't get enough extra fluids with the heat the day before).

He seems to be waking up earlier and earlier. Not sure if he has any more teeth coming through, he's got 6 already

bank holiday here today so no work. My mum and dad are coming over before they head back to the UK. has gone so quickly. luckily we'll be back over to see them in about 6 weeks. Am goignt o make the most of another day of sunshine, I think we may have rain on the way this week

Hi All, hope everyone had a lovely weekend I've not been on for ages and been trying to catch up.

Scheh I can't add any words of wisdom just echo what everyone else has said - I think you're doing brilliantly with C. I am dreading starting CC but think we have to as E just won't self settle. (I'm such a wimp I'm dreading it for me not him!)

Need to do something as DP has loads of difficult stuff going on at work at the moment and E was up from 3-5 last night and wouldnt go back to sleep :(

Poor DH has gone into work today facing a really difficult situation so tired I feel really awful for him.

We've had runny poo (TMI) but definitely linked to his teething (we now have two tombstone top teeth at the front they're huge!) so he's a bit like Bugs Bunny with 2 top and 2 bottom :o

the sling, my dress, DS's romper are now in the wash following the poo that was dal-gate

last night me and DH took turns in holding him for an hour. I think DH was glad to go to work this morning