October 2011: Crawling, teething and (we hope) sleeping through

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Sorry guys - posted the 1000th message without realising , so hopefully you can all find this thread!

Happy birthday sch
Welcome lookout
pa, engel yummy
cheshire do you think she is hungry in the night or just waking from habit? I know it's different here as S has a dummy but if she does wake, I give her dummy back (unless she has found it herself) and she rolls back over. I don't put light on so still dark room. Why don't you try just a little sip then leave her to it. In regards to amount, I offer S cup at meal times and she does take quite a few sips. I put a tiny bit of diluting in at dinner but she really didn't like it. Prob a good thing! Have noticed as well she drinks more water when it's cold i.e just out the fridge

Ment to add to, think the idea of offering cup at meal times is to get used to the idea of it that along with your meal, you have a drink. Mostly S cup is good for banging on highchair and showering the cats

Happy birthday Scheh - it's good to see you doing so well (I hope you don't mind me saying that).

Welcome Lookout - looking forward to getting to know you!

I've had a bit of a setback with the PND after doing better. It starts off with indecisiveness and then turns into full blown anxiety. Today I didn't know whether to take Leo to daycare or have him with me for therapist apt. In the end I was late so has to take him. Then I arrived and realized I didn't have his change bag and no spare diaper. Then I couldn't find anywhere to park and I just came home again. Since then I've felt really anxious.

Is anyone else still swaddling? Leo has outgrown his miracle blanket but really does much better swaddled so I went out and bought an ergo pouch - its a zip up one that converts into a sleeping bag. Lasts up to a year. Never thought I'd be buying that at 7m! Anyway, he seems to love it and it zips up so no chance of escape!

scheh don't panic yours sounds like a much nicer day than mine I just have a big huge and crazy family who bitch when they're not involved with things.

And happy birthday scheh
jnice sorry your not feeling great hope it passes soon DH is currently on a downturn again, has been for a few days I'm hoping that because he's off drink/smoking that it will pass quicker.
Anyone else really sick of this weather? Where is the blooming summer
Dropping kids at MIL today to get everything done for Sunday.

Jnice sorry to hear you're having a tough time, go easy on yourself xx
RE swaddling we haven't done it for ages W is such a fidgety boy that not being able to move his arms was what woke him up! He's nearly outgrown his sleeping bags though his feet are at the end of them so I need to get some more.

Hi lookout do come join us :)

ed can you deligate any of that?

Happy birthday scheh and

Scheh happy birthday sweetie hope you have a lovely day.
Cheshire I think you're meant to give a cup so they get used to drinking out of it and not a bottle?
lookout hi! We have a stats thread and a Facebook page where you can share photos etc. will try and link to stats thread but someone else will have to add you to fb as I'm not an admin.
Jnice hope you have a better day today.
Ed and Scheh at you being organised with your christenings! I can't get organised we're meant to be having a joint christening/ we've got married party when we get back from Italy but I don't know where to start organising it!
Fuzzzy how's S now has she settled back into her routine?

jnice sorry the pnd is creeping back . I have times I feel anxious but it does pass. Are you getting more sleep at night now? S was never one who liked to be swaddled, even as a newborn! If its working for L then keep at it
LP last night she cried for an hour when I put her down at 7 but once she was asleep at 8 she slept right through. I heard her at 6am but left her 10 mins and I'm guessing she found her dummy and went back to sleep again till 8am. Really need to move forward the hour though as when I'm back at work in a few weeks, I'll start at 8am so need to her to be up early. One thing at a time though!!
ed know what you mean about the weather, absolute joke!! Almost June and still like winter. It's doing nothing but putting everyone in a mood

Thanks for the lovely welcome! And wow, there are a lot of you and how will I ever keep up??

Ds was born on the 8th, super duper speedy birth (2 hours from rupture of membranes to being born ) which was awesome as I was super worried after an unpleasant experience first time round. Ds 1 is 7 and a fab big brother, absolutely adores Eliot and does his best to be understanding when I'm having a bad day (pretty often tbh haha!). We are in South Bucks, almost Berks.

I have mild PND which is dreadful when I've had a few bad nights, so it doesn't help that Eliot is a dreadful sleeper, still up several times a night and hard to settle. He is ebf, not that interested in food (still struggling with one meal a day atm) and has eczema. Compared to his brother he is absolutely charming in spite of all the difficulties!

Jnice I sympathise. I am indecisive to the point of anxiety too, though it is more under control now than it was in Jan/Feb. But I tend to avoid any situations where I'll have to make a decision, which is why I've not managed baby groups yet! We've also only just stopped swaddling after several attempts at de-swaddling which were Absolutely. Horrific. In the end, on the advice of a sleep consultant, we sleep him in grobag on his tummy which the suppresses the startle reflex. He's still not a good sleeper but at least he's out of the swaddle. We were stumped after he grew out of the miracle blanket too and found a convoluted way of using it on YouTube. Can link if you like.

My word, I've written as essay. See, I obviously need to talk

Would love to join the fb group if someone can point me in the right direction.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1303164-October-2011-Babies?pg=2

Thanks, have added my stats. Might need some help with the fb thing too. Can anyone link me or tell me what it's called?

Sorry lookout I would help with FB but I don't know how to do it. It's a secret group so I don't think it would show on a search. Someone will be along soon to help.
I've managed to dump kids on MIL today so am off out shopping for buffet (am v tempted to nip to cinema or something though lol) been feeling really smothered this week.

Haha ed, I'd be the same!! I got my mum to take S one day so I could catch up with tv I had v+ didn't tell her that though! Can't wait to see photos of M in her dress!!

Lookout sounds like we have a lot in common - my PND/anxiety is closely linked to lack of sleep. I also have underlying self esteem issues it seems so trying to work through those with a therapist and seeing a shrink too. Managing to avoid medication but I think after last night I may give up on that. I hope sleep proves for you soon.

Fuzzy I hope you feel better soon - yes, the lack of sleep is the biggest struggle for me.

Ed glad to hear your DH is still dry - and hope he is feeling better soon too.

Thanks all and sorry for the 'me, me, me' post!

This weather is way too grim. Willing to bet the min I'm back at work it's blue skies and sunshine (sigh)

We won't tell ed if u sneak off to the cinema instead of doing constructive stuff - last time MIL had N I had great plans to clean the house n sort spare room. Ended up watching The Walking Dead back to back, then frantically grabbing the duster when I heard her come through the door :)

On a serious note, wish us luck we're moving N to his room tonight and sleep training begins. I can't cope anymore with the lack of sleep, and not enjoying the daytime with N as a result so something needs to be done :(

Hope your day is better jnice

we've not even thought about christening yet, but we get married in oct and nowhere near as organised as you two with the wedding!!
Oh and happy b'day scheh!

Also, hello lookout!!

Good luck for tonight ipswich . I think S does sleep better in her own room as I toss and turn at night so was no doubt disturbing her. What are your plans for the sleep training?
S woke up from her nap sobbing her heart out . She had a runny nappy and think it was irritating her skin. I actually had tears in my eye listening to her while trying to get nappy off her quick. Was a horrible cry. Now we are watching cartoons and playing with plastic tubs.. the new favourite thing

Good luck ips we found W slept so much better in his own room pretty much straight away, I think we disturbed his sleep too much (I fidget and DH snores)

fuzzzy you have plastic tubs we have plastic drinks bottles W has a couple of coke bottles one that I've put stuff in so it rattles he loves them. He got stupidly excited yesterday when presented with an empty 2ltr lemonade bottle

Ipswitch we're getting married in October too (was meant to be last October but then E came along and we had to postpone.

sp yes! Bottles are a huge hit too! Why do we spend so much money on toys?! Honestly, tubs, bottles and wooden spoons and S is

Thanks all, plans are for the shh and pat method, worked pretty well getting him to bed last 2 nights, just not so great at dealing with the night wakings. We'll see how tonight goes and if not good will consider cc, which is last resort as far as I'm concerned.

strawberry and fuzzy great idea using bottles, N likes anything noisy so I'll give it a go

lp we were supposed to get married last November, but we put off as N was due 9th nov. got a call today from wedding dress shop and the dress is here!! That's one less thing to organise, just hope it fits :)

Another lover of bottles here too! The beautiful Lamaze bug thing my mum bought went down like a lead balloon but an empty bottle of water is like playtime heaven!

ipswich, good luck with the new room and sleep training. Eliot was happier straight away in his own room but we've yet to tackly his dreadful sleep. Would be interested to know how you're gonna do it.

Jnice I'm only on sleep medication. Have steadfastly refused ad's but am not on any treatment, be that talking or otherwise, for the PND. Am hoping it will just get better once the sleep does.

Have been desperately avoiding BLW for many reasons but for the last week Eliot has hardly eaten anything, so tonight I caved and gave him some toast. he loved it. I think I am gonna have to face the fact that spoon feeding is not for him. Can anyone give me the basics on BLW please? I know Aitch has a blog but I don't have time tbh to read up atm. I can't really give him what we eat as we eat a lot of heavily flavoured stuff in sauces so not really adaptable, so what would I cook for him?

Jealous of your christenings and weddings! Enjoy all the preparation! I can't even get my head around organising the school lunch never mind a christening!

ips and lookout do your lo's have dummies? I know some people don't like them but we find they help with night time stirrings. W goes to sleep with one and it falls out once he's asleep. If he starts whining in the night we just pop in a give it back and he's asleep again before we've left the room (most of the time or unless there is actually something wrong ie nappy leak then it doesn't work and we investigate further)

lookout start off with lots of soft things so steam some carrot sticks, sweet potato sticks etc till the are still semi firm, enough that E can hold but gum. Toast is good as it goes soggy. Even strips of cooked chicken, or anything else you can cook and give that can be like chip sized. Even put things on highchair tray, he will soon get hang of trying to pick up. S is starting to try more with pincer grip but does normally just grab everything. Have you tried even giving him his own spoon to hold while you feed? cheshireding is doing blw with little P and it always sounds like its going well. I'm sure she can give you some great examples