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Dec 08 Mums - Breech babies, bedtimes, boozing and Bikram

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KiwiPanda · 16/04/2012 09:20

Um sorry about rubbish title Confused

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Beans36 · 28/06/2012 08:23

Ooh, Invis - your new niece or nephew will probably have the same birthday as MOI! How exciting!

Ooh, Rubes, we're getting a truckle bed for both the DDs. I havne't made the move of DD2 into a grown up bed, she's such a monkey that we're keeping her in her cot for a couple more months! But then truckle beds galore. Or is it trundle? I have no idea!

Your DH must be knackered. Poor guy.

I'd love to come and see you on the way, but we're on a tight schedule!!! I'm quite looking forward to Centre Parcs - has anyone been?

xx

Beans36 · 28/06/2012 08:24

PS DH gave me an ipad this morning - 16GB. Is it worth paying the extra £70 for a 32GB? xx

Beans36 · 28/06/2012 08:24

PPS - that makes up for the Travelodge in my opinion!!!!

McKayz · 28/06/2012 11:16

Happy Birthday Beans!!!!

How do I get DD to sleep in her Moses basket? The boys just slept in theirs from day 1. I really don't like co sleeping as I don't sleep very well because I'm worried. Plus DH is a very heavy sleeper so it's not practical.

LadyThompson · 28/06/2012 12:23

Happy Birthday Beans! Sorry about the Travelodge. Couldn't you say to him "Well, how are we going to celebrate my birthday this evening, then?" Perhaps you could all go out for supper nr Warminster. There must be tons of nice gastropubs.

Kayz, I know there's this no swaddling rule these days but Mothercare still sell them - the swaddling blankets are very thin and light (so she shouldn't get too hot) and you don't have to have them mega tight. link

Right, although I have tons to do I am going to get my notes and do my catch up while I have a quiet half an hour...

Beans36 · 28/06/2012 12:42

I seem to remember settling both mine, but getting them really sleepy on me, but not actually asleep. Then slowly lowering them into the moses basket and standing with a hand on them until they went to sleep, then slowly lifting said hand. Quite often they'd wake up and start crying, so hand would go back on and I'd slowly lift it again. Repeat a few times and eventually they'd drift off... I think that's how it went. Neither of mine liked being swaddled, so I never did it.

Hope that helps.

Lady - lovely to see you! I think we are going to grab a sarnie with this friend of mine, then drive in and then go to bed at the Travelodge with girls. I'm going to have a few glasses of vino at friend's house, then DH can drive the rest of the way!

LadyThompson · 28/06/2012 13:00

Just in the middle of my epic catch up. I am doing it Word so I don't lose it. Beans, I think you absolutely must have CHAMPAGNE, not just wine....

LadyThompson · 28/06/2012 13:34

RRrrright, so here goes. Apologies to anyone I miss, I can barely read my handwriting...

But before I do, me me me. Getting more and more sucked into doing fundraising things for the pre-school, they seem to come thick and fast. I am the world?s most diffident fundraiser but I am ok with doing practical tasks. For instance, we ran a Pimms stall at the village celeb cricket thing, as I said, and that was well within my skill set Grin Otherwise, same old: DP stressed by work, house still a bananas mess (which I am rectifying but tiny weeny bits at a time), still feel like I have no time for anything (what do I do, though? I suppose the answer is: take on too much!) Well, DP has booked off some time from 16th July, he badly needs a break, and we are actually packing off the girls to MIL?s for a few days to crack on with it here a bit. Then we are all off to Brussels for a few days with the cricket team.

So, Invis ? niece or nephew yet? And what?s this about Israel? And has the NY trip come off? I dream of NY. There are a handful of (separate) friends I have living there, like half a dozen, whom I love and never see. If I?d got the cash I would love to go there for a few days and see them and eat out and hang out and just generally luxuriate in a city I love. Aaaaah. Am reading the most recent M. Amis, did I say? He?s great but it?s slowed off a bit (but I am reading it in what I call that book-killing fashion of a couple of pages a night before I crash out).

Trace ? date for house move yet? How are you these days??

Vag ? are you on the cabbage soup again? My weightloss has plateaued. I still need to shed another 2.5kg to be at a weight which is acceptable to me though if I look in the mirror naked these days I only wince, rather than actively weep. But if I lost a whole other stone/6kg, I think I would feel FABULOUS. And who doesn?t want to feel fabulous? So I think that?s the ultimate aim. I will let you know my Belgium dates but I think it?s when you are over here.

ZJ ? you are being very noble re: the SPD, you know. I would be constantly whingeing. When is it likely to get better? AND you are being noble re: your sister?s wedding (I?m sure she is lovely but she is being rather unreasonable regarding arrangements) AND moving DD2 into her own room. Can you believe I still have DD2 in a cot next to my side of the bed? She is 2 on 29th Sept!! It?s me who is the baby, not her. But DP is as bad. He will say he wants our bedroom to ourselves and if I call his bluff and say ?Ok, let?s move her this weekend? he?ll say, ?Well, maybe we can keep her with us a tiny bit longer...?

Rubes, sorry DH is under the cosh at work. Is he doing the bike ride at Blenheim this year? You are all welcome to stay again...(If I can tidy up a bit ? gulp!) Good to see you back on here! You are so good taking the kids to swimming. I must get into that. I need to help DD1 gain more physical confidence and I do wonder if swimming would help. How is your work going?

JB ? how lovely, to go to the ballet. I am going to take the girls to see The Nutcracker at the Coliseum this December, I meant to do it last year. They do a special performance for tinies. As to MILs overestimating size, when we saw mine the other week she said ?What size do you take in trousers?? Me: ?A 12? (which is absolutely true, I was a 14 last year and now I am easily in 12s, yay) ?Because I have some size 16 white hipsters that I thought you might like, that I bought in Australia?. Mmm, fanks.

Urbs, so good to see you back on here. When are you back at work? (Sorry to ask). As for my trips, I am writing about them. My literary agent has encouraged me but given that he hasn?t sold my novel yet, I am not holding my breath....It will be nice to have a record of the trips, anyway. The girls might like to read it one day, if no one else.....

Obes, your holiday plans sound divine, I have to say. If you are close to having a BMI of 19 or 20 you must be SO THIN So what's this potential opportunity at work - are you going for it? I have given myself a deadline of the end of this year to decide about a No. 3, incidentally.

Nolda ? don?t think we didn?t see you waft in and out again Grin And how are YOU?

We haven?t heard from PD since I saw her on my birthday visit to Essex. Was it that bad? Grin Effie is AWOL. The Cambridge girls we hardly ever see, either. Come on, East of England! I know Jam is on hols.

DB ? was thinking about your DS ? I think you need to brainstorm a proper plan with pre-school. They seem to be making you feel crap about it, which is not going to help anybody. Do you think DS is actually a bit overwhelmed by the kids there ? would he feel better if you invited a kid over to play, one on one? Well done on the weightloss, you absolute champ!

Indith ? have you sorted anything out with your DH? You sound in dire need of some time for yourself...Oh heavens, I do sympathise with that feeling of having an ?out of control? house, as well. Awful.

Sybs ? sorry you were at another funeral...how very sad. Are you back on the wine? DP isn?t drinking again. I?m not drinking all that much either (eg...drank when I was away with the girls, had nothing for days until some Pimms on Sunday, had nothing since and won?t until the Chambers cricket match on Saturday...to me that?s not drinking much, anyway!)

KP ? going back a bit, when is your Czech cousin coming? I thought Jam?s suggestion was a jolly good one (what teen doesn?t like Top Shop! Or H&M?) Keeping the sex secret ? no, I don?t think I would. Mainly because I couldn?t keep it zipped. But we did keep the name just between the two of us both times.

Beans, did you actually resign in the end? Will you try to get some other work? I do get the odd bit of work but I am still Ebaying for pocket money (heaven knows I have enough stuff to get rid of). If DP and I didn?t have such heinous credit card debts (mine were racked up when I was owed that money by the Revenue, which took them a year to pay. When it finally came, I paid off my debts but was pretty much left with 0 and then a further 7 or 8 months before I rented out my flat seemed to put me back in the soup, sigh). It?s going to be an austere couple of years ahead whilst I get straight.

I?ve said it before, but isn?t everything dear? I nipped into Boots for some essential toiletries this morning (tampax, shampoo, things of that ilk and I bought bugger all really and it was still £30).

I know I keep banging on about a meet up. Are we doing it when Vag is over?

Indith · 28/06/2012 15:06

Poo for travelodge but an Ipad! That deffo makes up for it, expecially if you manage to wrangle a nice meal after the 70th birthday do.

LadyT I can certainly imagine you running a Pimms stall Grin

Mmmmmm pimms

So on Sunday I did a bit of cleaning, went for a run then after we put the dcs to bed I said to dh "so why don't you do the washing up now while there is still hot water and wipe the surfaces down and sweep the floor afterwards while I feed ds2". Result was a sort of OK house to start the week with. Then when he was planning his rowing her did Monday, was away with work Tuesday so I told him it would be much better for me if he went Thursday so I could run on Wed and he did :).

However.

Delicate matter.

The old vagina has been feeling a little delicate since ds2 was born. Obviously everything is a bit week but I'm being quite good with exercises and stuff I'm doing for the tummy muscles is good for pelvic floor too. When I need a poo I have to do alittle bit of acrobatics and push up and back on my perineum because it bulges into the vaginal wall. I Know I know I know I should probably have asked to have that checked out earlier but it felt as though it was getting a bit better as I continued pelvic floor exercises but yesterday when I was running (it was a fab run by the way, my first 5k since ds2 was born with no walking at all and it felt pretty easy!). Anyway yesterday when I was running it became apparent that I did need a poo but of course I had to wait until I got home. When I got home I became involved with ds1' poo in pants and showers and hair washing etc before I got the chance to go and it was massive and had been bulging a lot into the vaginal wall and after that and the run I felt half turned inside out like when you've just had a baby, it feels as though the bladder might be bulging in a bit too. I've buggered it haven't I. I've made an appointment to see the GP next week. I'm guessing I should possibly not run this weekend? I'm really scared she's going to say I've got a prolapse and need surgery.

VagolaJahooli · 28/06/2012 20:53

Happy birthday lovely Beans, yay for the ipad!

Lady did you make much money with the Pimms? Do let me know when your in Brussels, though we are doing a few little trips ourselves, as DH has remote jobs for the next month so can work from anywhere with internet access.

I'm in London from the 28th juli to 5th august so let me know what days are good for meeting up for everyone? Drinks would be nice too.

Lady I am a couple of jeans sizes smaller but on the scales the numbers are still the same. I'm def a lot slimmer, but there are still bits that wobble so would like to use the lovely cabbage soup to shift that. Though last night we threw in some fresh lemongrass & Chiu chow chilli oil and made a Veggie laksa, so not quite used for it purpose.

Crikey Indith that sounds a bit nasty, I'm not sure on all that stuff as its not something that comes up much in kids nursing but I think first off it might be a good idea to take something to soften your stools. You've got me sat here doing kegels now. I do think running and any jumping style exercises, skipping, aerobics, star jumps, fucking burpees, are not good after pregnancy. I was doing fine down there until I started skipping & burpees. It might be a good idea to hold off on the running, could you swim instead. Or do some strength work like squats, push ups, sit ups that sort of thing.

Kayz, I don't want you doing anything you are not comfortable with but if she is always wanting to be held close to you, then she may be the sort of child who likes the comfort of being swaddled. DS1 was very cuddly and loved swaddling, whereas DS2 wasn't as cuddly and preferred being left with just a blanket on him. Though he was in the nest hammock thing.

Lady if everyone is fine with it leave her in. You'll all be horrified to know that 2 nights on average a week DS2 wakes and comes into bed with me when I go to bed. DH usually sleeps in DS2's bed them. 2 nights a week I go to bed with DH but wake up with DS2 and the rest he either stays in his bed or comes in with us for a snuggle at 6am ish. Neither DH and I mind, in fact if DH has to get up early it works well for everyone. And he is only 3 so its not a bad habit forming thing. We did similar with DS1 but he was pretty much in his own bed more nights by now, and he is fine and sleeps well now. I quite like all the snuggles I get.

Though speaking of DS2 he has become super clingy, anyone else's Dec 08 babys getting clingy recently?

Obergene · 29/06/2012 11:45

Hi Ladies,

Just a quick "Hello" as we are about to depart for my birthday camping weekend. Today is the 8th anniversary of my mother's death. I always find it ahrd that her death day and my birthday our so close. I miss her today. Eight years is a really, really long time. I realised this morning that I have spent nearly a quarter of my life without any parents :-(

Anyway, must not be morose, I am lucky in many, many ways.

I hope everybody here is well. Indith, sorry to hear about your lady troubles, giving birth really takes it out of our nether regions, it sucks, I hope you do not need surgery.

x

Obergene · 29/06/2012 11:46

"our so close"! "our"???? why do I never preview?

JollyBear · 29/06/2012 13:21

Obes I'm sorry to hear that. Will be thinking of you today.

Indith I have no idea but perhaps not run this weekend just in case. How are things weather wise with you?

sybilfaulty · 29/06/2012 16:28

Thinking of you and your dear mum today Aubs XXXXX

Indith · 29/06/2012 16:48

I'm sorry Obs x

Yes I think sticking to post natal abdominal stuff this weekend will be best. At least I see the GP tues so not too long to wait.

Well that weather was fun Hmm. Thankfully we escaped but there has been a lot of very localised flooding, lots of homes flooded, mayhem in various places. Last night a lot of people were stranded as roads were flooded in places. Very grateful dh works from home these days as people were stuck in Newcastle/taking 4 hours to get back to Durham. Did anyone see the footage of the Tyne Bridge being struck by lightening?

TheInvisibleHand · 29/06/2012 18:38

Aargh, just lost a giant post, will try again when I am not at the mercy of a virgin trains wifi connection...

But I do have a new nephew, Charlie. He came so fast I think he made it before your birthday beans. (And keep that ipad to yourself - they are toddler crack if the girls get hold of it)

KiwiPanda · 29/06/2012 19:45

Obes thinking of you too. Hugs xx

Vag I am sure I can do any of those days at all. Drinks in evening sound like a lovely idea but might be tricky for me with Olympics as DH will be working 24/7 Sad and my parents are away too so no free babysitting Wink

Went on trip w L's nursery class to zoo today. God I'm knackered. Herding 3 year olds and wrangling an 8 month old AND resisting the temptation to feed them to lions is pretty knackering. Also, how rude is this: two parents/kids (travelling together) arrived 45 mins late having kept us all waiting (all babies present having meltdowns at being strapped in buggies w no movement) - eventually turn up and not a WORD of apology...! Turns out they didn't even leave until half an hour before we were supposed to meet - driving the other side of London.

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LadyThompson · 29/06/2012 21:22

Obes - thinking of you very much. It is very, very hard Sad Anyway, hope you can find some comfort in your girls. And seeing your Mum's friend in the US later in the year. xxxxxxxxx.

Oh dear, KP, that sounds...rather less than fun, I must say. And those parents - how rude!

Hurrah for your new nephew, Invis. Charlie is a super name as well.

Indith, I am so glad for you that your appt is soon. That sounds upsetting. I know you don't want surgery BUT hopefully you can be helped whether by surgery or otherwise and your life will be improved. My sister had a repair over 16 years after a traumatic birth and she told me she really regretted waiting so long....however, I know you have three small energetic kids to look after so it must be such a worry. Hope you can get running again soon.

Vag, the Aug bit of your trip is best for me. And get you with your two sizes smaller. I bet your weight is staying the same cos you are rock solid muscle.

We were up ALL night with a violenting vomiting DD1. Literally. I feel like I am on drugs. (Well, I am - a shedload of caffeine!)

urbanewarrior · 30/06/2012 00:32

Lady t is O better? Hope you are having a better night tonight.

Obes sending you love. That must be so hard - I can't imagine really. Enjoy the weekend and cuddle your lovely girls close.

Woo hoo for a new nephew invis.

And indith, I think is v good idea to stick to gentle stuff - your ds2 is still v small. Can you get to any Pilates? I had never done before and did 4 or 5 classes of postnatal Pilates and has been awesome. Really recommend. Although at time I thought "what a frickin waste of money am barely doing anything". Could hardly move without feeling it the next day. am v glad your dh is being more helpful. What has worked for me is instead of agonising whether is fair to go out etc I just say I'm going to and then do it rather than waiting around to be asked IYKWIM. And of course DH doesn't bat an eyelid and more than happy given its planned.

Kiwi those parents are v rude. I do think some people behave in the weirdest way - like there are whole groups of people they dont have to bother to behave properly for.

Was ds' sports day today. Huge fun. Although he woke me up at 3:30 as he was so excited about sports day and dh's birthday. Cute but also infuriating and I have been shouty today because of it. Also cack handed and scalded and burned myself - incl with caramel. Ouch.

Talking of birthdays beans I missed yours - hope you had a lovely day. Travelodge is quite a good card to play for fantastic hotel next year? Grin

Ladyt you asked about work - I'll be back in September. And although will of course be sad in some ways am philosophical about it - I know that I'm happy working and it makes such a difference to know I'll be leaving them with our fabulous nanny. And dd2 knows her and loves her already so won't be much of a transition. Hopefully anyway. And I know I'm very lucky to have the choices I have. Although remind me of this when I am completely frazzled again.

Must sleep. Dh and I have been ill so often this year I've been looking into what you can do to boost immunity. And apparently most significant factor is to sleep more if you get less than 8 hours a night. 8 hours Grin think it may be some time.

Night all

KiwiPanda · 01/07/2012 05:26

Ughhhhh it is too early to have been up for 1 1/2 hours already and eating breakfast. And there's no butter for my toast and my leg hurts and I am here to WALLOW IN SELF PITY ok Wink

Have 10k race at 9am. Dd2 clearly does not appreciate this fact.

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McKayz · 01/07/2012 06:32

Kiwi have you managed to get any sleep?

PILs are coming up today to meet DD. the house is a tip so I should get out of bed to have a sort out. But it's so comfy.

Can I just be a bit cheeky and ask you to look here if you get a chance. Aillidh needs all the thoughts and prayers she can get right now. We're all praying for a miracle. Thanks.

Hope everyone is well.

sybilfaulty · 01/07/2012 06:55

Good luck for your run, Kiwi.

Kayz, you have a baby who is less than 2 weeks. If you are vertical, that is a bonus. The house can wait. You are amazing. Doing so well wihtout DH on board. Is there any more news which day he might be back? Am already on a prayer thread for A, but not sure if it's that one. Poor wee girl.

Right, am going to dry my hair then do a 10k walk in Battersea Park. Hope it doesn't rain!

Have a great Sunday

McKayz · 01/07/2012 07:18

Nope no idea when he'll be back yet. They're still waiting on the visas.

DD has scuppered any plans for a tidy up. So watching tv in bed instead.

KiwiPanda · 01/07/2012 19:03

Thanks for luck, ran a PB so pretty chuffed Grin

Now so tired I am going to bed at 7pm. Rock n roll

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Nolda · 02/07/2012 10:00

Wafts in and waves to LadyT and everyone.

Well done on the PB Kiwi.

Hope DH gets home soon Kayz.

I've been having computer difficulties but will try to get on later for a proper catch up. Off to Peppa Pig World in the rain, joy!