Dec 08 Mums - Breech babies, bedtimes, boozing and Bikram

[KiwiPanda]

Um sorry about rubbish title

Hello! Just back from staying with my sister. So enjoyed seeing her. I am exhausted now, after sleepless nights with screechy DD2. Terrible 2s already???

Kayz - sounds like you're doing everything right, so have confidence and faith in yourself. Babies are hard to break. Tough little monkeys. DD2 was jaundiced, so I let her sleep outside in sunshine. Not so lucky this year with the weather! BUT it's due to get better on Monday.

Did I bore you all with my boast news that I'm going to Wimbledon on Monday - in the debentures bit. WAH WAH WAH! I am going to be a chinless wonder and I can't wait! Posh lunch and Centre Court tickets! Wahooo! Will be my early bday present to myself. Dad had tickets, which he was given, and is going to member's enclosure on 3rd with friends, so gave them to me! Brilliant. It's my bday on Thursday, so it's a real treat for that. Taking a lovely school friend. Went with her on same jolly 8 years ago. She had JUST met her now husband (2 kids) and I met DH about 2 months later. How things have changed!

Off out for village dinner tonight. Got a 15 year old babysitting!

Kayz as Indith said a little jaundice is quite normal, sometimes a little maternal blood is left over after the cord is cut and the jaundice is just a symptom of DD (yay I get to refer to your DD) expressing it. As said pop in some sunlight if you can, near a sunny window will do. As for the feeding from a cup, sounds a bit of a faff, expressing at this stage can interfere with your boobs production (poor dears they get confused very easily) and well who could be faffed trying to feed a 9lb+ newborn with a cup. You can see for yourself if she is getting anything by watching if she swallows while sucking. Just watch her throat, you will see her swallow. How is the pain on feeding going? Seriously, while we are all sagely in our advice, give the BF lines a call, or as I said in my PM there is a lady with the BfN happy to speak to you via Skype if you want. Also have a look at kellymom, I think they suggest squeezing your boob a little whilst feeding to get a bit more into them. My old BfN tutor said this goes against the whole 'don't touch the boob while feeding thing', but she said it does increase how much they get and if you do it exactly as kellymom says it is helpful.

Bloody awesome Jam.

I've had a tummy bug and have lost 2kg. I managed to fit into a pair of size 29 jeans...so I bought them. DH & I are off out for dinner tonight, as long as my tummy isn't too tender.

Vag, I don't have Skype. I used too but I don't have a webcam anymore.

I've rung LaLeche but they don't have anyone near me so can only talk to me on the phone and haven't told me anything different really. Just I need to get her to take a big mouthful, use lanisoh(sp)and try nipple shields if the pain doesn't go. But apparently the pain usually subsides in a few days.

I second what vag says. Cup feeding is very faffy. Just keep feeding. Both mine were jaundiced. L was left to sleep in any bits of winter sun.

Have you looked at videos of what a baby looks like swallowing? Lots of wet nappies mean she is def taking something. Have you any rl friends who bf who could watch a feed. I'm sure you'd be reassured.

Ladyt Loved the sound of your trip. Very well done! I struggle with a full day out on my own. Is dd1's eating still the same?

LadyT knackered but happy. The boys are being so cute. I am really feeling for DH though. He really wants to come home. But only 12 days. We're hoping to surprise the boys as the flights from where he is get him to Manchester at 8am. So he can be home in time to pick them up.

We've just had a really good feed. She was on for 30 minutes and she seemed to get quite a bit. It didn't hurt much either after the first 30 or so seconds.

I had a go at expressing too and got quite a lot out. I'm feeling heavier too so I'm wondering if my milk is starting to come in.

Well Kayz I think you are doing amazingly, I hope our DH is going to give you a big break when he gets back. Your right though while it's not hard for him in the same way it is for you, it is hard having to wait to meet his first child and missing such a momentous event. He must be counting down the seconds. I don't know how those poor dads in the military can contain themselves knowing that their wives have had their baby and they won't see them still for several months.

Speaking of amazing well done on the solo travel Lady. I think you have inspired me to consider it with the boys. DH won't be able to take much time of over this summer break but I fancy going away. My fav thing is too mooch around galleries, but sadly my boys have a definite expiry with that sort of thing. They need to be moving and preferably upwards. I managed to keep ds1 inspired whilst at L' orangerie in Paris, but when ds2 woke up he roared, which is not allowed around Monet.

Summer if your around I saw you FB vid but couldn't comment. Wow!!! How blurry amazing is DS, is he our first cyclist?

I've had a really bad night. DD has been awake nearly all night wanting to be fed. I don't mind her wanting to be fed but she wouldn't sleep anywhere but on me. She wouldn't even sleep next to me.

The boys were up at 6

I feel awful, am hoping I might be able to get a nap later when my dad is here. Can I drink coffee while bf?

But she's so damn cute I'll let her off. She does those cute little smiles when she's asleep.

Kayz, so sorry things feel so tiring right now. DD is not yet a week so it is natural she wants to sleep on you. Can you feed her lying down and then co sleep? It was the way forward with M and meant that both of us got some rest, yet he could still feel and smell me as I lay next to him. You can have coffee when BF, but don't go wild and have gallons in case Miss R is sensitive to it.

If you are bushed, why not put a DVD on for boys and try to rest whilst they watch and she snoozes? If your dad can take them out, you might be able to kip. D will be home in 10 days I think - not long to wait. Hang on in there.

Sending you HUGE hugs and lots of love XXXX

I do usually feed lying down and then we both fall asleep. But last night she was waking up. I guess she was having a bad night.

It's not really hurting much now. Just when she first goes on for 20 seconds or so. My milk has come in now, that's fairly painful.

Oh kayz lovely. All of this sounds very normal behaviour for such a new baby, but you have all that added pressure of having to look after the boys too. If DH was home those sleepless nights wouldn't be so bad as you can nap during the day. In fact I think I was still in hospital at this stage! hang in there DH will be home home soon...how long is he back for?

As for the BF, I think my hurt when latching on for a good 10-14 days. But like you say just for a few seconds and that got less and less. Just a little thought on the milk coming in which may or may not apply to you but, I got really engorged (so painful) which actually made it difficult to get DS to latch on because my nipple wasn't sticking out so much iyswim. I just expressed a little amount off by hand (literally a teaspoon or so) but it helped loads and softened the boob enough for DS to latch.

Hope you get a nap this aft, but second a DVD. I still do it now when I'm tired.

He's home for 8 weeks. So it works out he's home for all the school holidays.

By now with DS2 the MW had got us giving him top ups so it's all quite new to me.

Your doing great Kayz, really you are! Don't ever doubt what you are doing and you and DD will get the hang of it and some sort of 'routine' in no time!

Thanks Dieds. I'm actually feeling very happy. I know it doesn't sound it but I am. Just tired at the same time.

You are doing great Kayz. Definitely just stick a dvd on or whatever. There is no such thing as too much TV when you have a newborn, you can wean them off it again later!

She sounds absolutely normal and lovely and fine. Feeding all bloody night right before your milk comes in is normal. In fact it is great :). She knows exactly what she is doing and she is making sure your milk comes in and that you get a good supply established. It is wonderful that it isn't painful for the whole feed now, sounds like it is all going really well. Stop second guessing and worrying and trust her to know when she needs to feed and sleep. In a few weeks time thing will calm down more and there will be more of a pattern of spaced out feeds going.

And yes, you can have a coffee!

Speaking of knackered. All 3 children with absolutely horrendous cough and cold at the same time is not a good thing. Poor ds1 is very bad with it as is ds2 who has spent most of the past couple of days and night screaming at me :( The house is just one big pile of washing, washing up, random crap everywhere that needs sorting out and I don't know where to begin. I hate hate hate ahate hate it when it gets like this. I hate how I am only ever just about nearly on top of things so it only takes one little thing to make me fall behind.

I also hate how it is always about dh's rowing and stuff and never me so I end up going for a couple of weeks without being able to get out for a run so I end up sleep deprived, in a foul mood, in a shit tip of a house cramming biscuits and cake down my neck but never feeling any better for it.

I need to get running routine established and for dh to respect that. I need the exercise, the endorphins, the precious half hour doing something for myself without children. I do not need "I'm away Thursday to Sat so I'm rowing Tues and Wed ok?" Thanks darling. Then of course on the days he is rowing he finishes work on time to go but the days he isn't he doesn't come down until dinner is on the table and since my breasts are needed from then on I can't get out.

I think a big problem is wanting to get back to normal already. I spent the last 8 or so weeks with bad SPD so struggled to do anything other than the basics around the house. I know I should really be sitting down feeding and eating cake but I want to be doing stuff.

:) yes I know what you mean.

Oh kayz eat the cake and sit down! I have no newborn so have no excuse

She's being a pain to wake up again to get her feeding. I am dreading the MW coming tomorrow and saying that I have to give formula.

Kayz, let the MW say what she likes. You are doing everything right, really you are. She can't make you do anything & its your baby you feed her how you like!

By a pain to wake up, how often is she feeding? Remember she fed all night. For a newborn you are looking at 8-10 feeds in a 24 hour period. If she did a stretch of 4/5 hours at night you'd be thanking your lucky starts not panicking so don't worry if she does one in the day after an all night marathon!

And what Deidre said, the MW can suggest things but she can't force you.

It was about every 1-1.5 hours overnight and has been every 3 hours since 6. But that's because I've been waking her up to feed.

Sounds ok, she'll still be sleeping off the birth a bit, figuring out her day and night, feeding at night lots to stimulate milk. I'd keep waking her every 3 hours but I wouldn't worry unless you can see the jaundice getting worse. Give her a few more days and she'll start getting a bit more awake.