Dec 08 Mums - Breech babies, bedtimes, boozing and Bikram

[KiwiPanda]

Um sorry about rubbish title

Beans I don't know if it is because DH works away but you wouldn't know I existed when he is at home. Especially with DS2. Today DS2 has been a little bum and when I tell him off I get "I miss Dom, when he come home?" so then I feel bad.

Kids, f#@k em! I'm in the same mood, just had a shouting match with DS2 about eating his mash potato. He tries to bide time between spoonfuls buy chewing, its fricken mash potato! The need to chew is removed via the mashing process! Anyhoo, we came to a compromise, as I always make meals tailored to DS1's sensitive fussy palete I'm going to start alternating meals, every other night it will be something DS2 prefers (which tends to be everything that DS1 thinks is evil in the culinary world) if it doesn't get eaten then tough at least the non eater will know that the next night there will be something more to his liking. And worst come to worst there is always nutella porridge.

Beans feeling for you, DH or as he is seen by the boys, the mighty saviour, and DS2 is being all smiles and goodness. I am sure I'm going to end up with shouty unreasonable boys as I am shouty and unreasonable with them. What happened to the earth mother, positive reinforcer that I set out to be when I spawned these monkeys!!!

Where's DB think we need a or 7

I'm being hardcore and having a shandy

Aw Beans, don't feel bad. Wonderful wise words from Sybs (as ever!).

Hot shower then hot chocolate for me. DH should have the fire going well by the time I get downstairs. Cosy!

Yup, daddy daddy daddy in this house too and he only works in the loft these days so not like he is far away!

snot snort sniff all round. Big 2 sorry for themselves, small one screamy, dh thinks he is getting it so man flu soon no doubt. Nobody seems to have realised i'm sniffing and sneezing too, i'm not allowed to get ill .

Daddy, don't you mean the almighty one?

Lovely ish day here took the boys to the zoo. DS2 who is normally a nightmare was brill and Ds1 chose to whine and moan the entire day and just wanted to go home. Grr.

Day salvaged by going to curtain shop again! DH this time spent ages looking and couldn't find anything nicer than the lovely fabric we had already found. So fab lady knocked near on £500 off the original quote. and told us we only needed to pay much smaller deposit not the price of the fabric which we had been told we would have to previously. Then told us it would take 6-8 wks so plenty time to save up for the rest if the balance. I love independent stores that want the trade and are prepared to do a deal and help the customer out.

Sybs is it the funeral this wk?

Oh also DH got his spot for NY marathon so bring on November long wkend in New York. Plus brilliant lively friends are getting married on a game reserve in Sth Africa next March and DHs parents have agreed to have the boys do another long wkend away to see them get married. So exciting.

Right time to catch up on the Homeland finale.

Hello... am pissed! Mums 60th bday today, so had huge lunch & mucho wine. Few more now just watched my colleague on BGT...he was dreadful. Ha ha...still voted for him,nice bloke.

DCs adore DH, probably because I am shouty mum who is solely responsible for discipline, eating of food, homework & the like.

Aha DB so you went for the 7 glasses then.

I'll sympathize with you indith, and know how you feel, when anyone else sick it's the end of the world, lots of moaning. When I'm sick, it doesn't even register. Well not until I throw a complete strope and stomp around ranting.

Jam, my lovely you might need slightly longer than a long weekend for the SA trip, it's a 12+ hour flight. ESP if your on a game reserve, that needs a whole week me thinks. Proper holiday.

Good news today, we are a bit cash strapped this month owing to some repairs on the derby place and general overspending. Then suddenly today our energy billing company (the ones that got the debt collectors onto us because DH didn't realise our direct debit had stopped) gave us ?1000 back. We have been here a year and paying their assessment per month of what they thought we would use but have been using waaaaaay less and viola after a meter reading money back. Makes it even more cheeky them taking the ?150 for the non bill payment, thinking a stern letter might be in order.

Evening all! Beans I reckon DHs/ Dads always get the glory because for probably 80-90% of families they are around less (at least in the early years) and therefore more of a rarity. We're some friends where the Dad took a year off work when their eldest was around 1 to be a stay at home dad and it was reverse there - when mum got home she was the total hero and Dad got ignored. So them's the breaks I guess ...

I'm catching up while doing my "sit in DD1s bedroom till she's asleep" shift. Does everyone else have to do that btw? Stay until they are absolutely asleep? I thought it was very common but a friend seemed a bit baffled when I mentioned it the other day

So I am officially addicted to running now. Am doing about 25 miles a week now, and have two 10ks and a half marathon lined up. Do you think I can have a timeout in the marathon to feed DD2 ? Perhaps a special bfing tent should be provided

ps Vag wish British Gas would do that for us, they take a RIDICULOUS sum every month from direct debit. My maternity pay is now just the SMP sum, so we are officially broke, though thanks to DH's gambling winnings we might still be able to go away for a few days, but only if DD2's passport turns up in the next few days!

oh and a PPS - no Homeland spoilers please!!! I'm about three episodes behind and have been studiously avoiding twitter/ reviews/ blogs on it so no giving the game away thank you Jam!

kiwi I used to have to lie with DD every night. Drove me potty, so I played hardball with DS, and ignored his screams. He'll now sleep on his own. In fact when I used to lie with DD I was pg with DS and I used to have a little power nap of my own while I was in there! So it had its advantages.

DS has been good today apparently. He was actually a dream over the weekend, so I reckon a lot of it is him trying to assert himself/boundaries at pre-school.

Kiwi My friend mentioned she stays with her DS until he is asleep and I was quite shocked. I've never stayed with either of them, I must be a mean mummy or just blessed with good settlers! They are in together though so that must serve a similar function.

Glad DS had a good day Deids.

Kiwi I used to lay with ds1 until he was asleep, I quite liked it as it was a little rest time for me too. When he was a little over three I stopped doing it but popped in for cuddling as he went off to sleep, until over a few weeks he settled to sleep himself. It worked for us and i liked it and he liked it and there are no evil habits as a result, in fact he is brilliant at getting off to sleep wherever we are. With Ds2 I intended doing the same and did for a while, I fact all three of us would get into the bottom bunk together when he moved into the big bed. But now he asks me to leave as soon as I've finished reading, even if I demand a one minute lay down with them. I think they have each other and they always fall asleep together, even if they have been chatting too much and we send ds1 up to his bunk, ds2 will at some stage crawl up there and fall asleep with his brother. We always move them later. Probably more horrifying for someone like your friend, is that ds2 usually ends up swapping with dh at some stage during the night. Often I go to bed with dh and wake up with ds2. Sometimes if dh has an early start we move ds2 in at our bedtime. He won't still be doing it at 16 and it gets everyone the most sleep. I don't think either style of getting kids off to sleep is bad, neither causes bad habit but either can work for different people.

Deids I forgot to comment on your ds, could it be a bit of hormone boost, a bit of testosterone, don't they get a bit of a boost similar to the hormones craziness when they hit their teens between now and 4? I am a bit grrr at the nursery, it does bug me that boys behavious seems to be so tightly held, I know you say he is naughty and I'm sure he is, but he's a boy they do that, why do schools and nurseries have to label a bit of bad behavious as some sort of learning disability!

Sorry Kiwi, I hope my post didn't sound smug. Mine settle beautifully at bedtime but it can be like musical chairs during the night!

Hello all, am back from hols in beautiful cornwall, what's been going on?! No baby yet for Kayz I see, any other big news as I will doubtless manage to skip the important posts...

E has given up bfing - as in, instead of feeding she would just look at me, grin, then bite - so does anyone want a selecion of bf tops? Two big capacious ones (white and grey), a small brown one and a rather nice stretchy navy bkue that sadly has a few specks of white paint on the sleeve

I see bedtime is on the agenda again - we've taken to putting S in our bedroom for stories as E just cannot go to sleep if the light's on at all - lies there staring like a mini moth and getting grumpy. I would be spending ages standing patting her while dh read stories to S, and she just wouldn't go off. As soon as the light's out now I stroke her a few times then head out and she manages to settle herself in a few minutes of groaning gently. This does sadly mean she gets no bedtime stories tho, will have to work out something soon whereby she can have a couple of stories with S then chuck S out for a moment to put the light out?!

JB not smug at all! Tbh I'm not that bothered as usually it's me feeding DD2 then putting her down while DH puts DD1 to bed. Usually she just wants me (or him) to sit by the door and I use the time to catch up on MN or emails while DH makes supper so I don't really mind! She's usually asleep within 5 minutes. When its just me putting them both to bed I can tell her I've got to go and look after her sister and she accepts that and goes to sleep herself. Will be nice when they are in with each other though - what sort of age do those of you who have sharing siblings start that at (obviously some start from beginning but if it's later IYSWIM) ?

Ps JJ don't really bother with bf tops, am more of a vest plus top style feeder myself but thank you for the offer

kiwi ds2 moved into ds1's room when he was a little over two. Although he had had a few snuggles at bedtimes with him in ds1's old bed.

JB I didn't think you sounded smug either, however, I think we have established, on here that we often have so little to crow about that to feel smug about something should be broadcast loud and proud.

Kiwi We put them in together from 7ish months which was when J started to sleep through. She stopped sleeping through a few months later but they can both sleep through each others noise. We've had vomiting and full bed changes with the other one sleeping oblivious.

JJ How do you feel about the end of bf? Love the description of E as a little moth! You must have some effective blackout blinds!

Kiwi DS1 was almost 4 and DS2 had just turned 2 when they started sharing a room. They are like chalk and cheese though where sleep is concerned. DS1 would sleep and sleep if he could. He is asleep 99% of the time within 5 minutes of the light going out. DS2, probably 2 nights a week is still wide awake when I go up at 10pm. He is then awake at 6am.

We have a new HV who rang the other day to introduce herself. She's just as bizarre as the old one! Apparently I can't BF this baby because I didn't BF the boys. The boys will know I didn't BF them and so will be jealous and means there is more chance of them having behaviour problems when they are teenagers!!!
I don't remember how I was fed so I can't see the boys remembering either.

OMG kayz that is wrong on so many levels! When on earth has there been research that said non BF siblings of BF children will have behavioural problems! Please can I urge you to complain to the PCT & her manager. She is actively discouraging BF to someone wanting to BF, which is illegal. Also, what is you chose to FF the other two for whatever reason, but then decided to BF, surely you decided based on what was best for everybody at the time. Just, just, I'm speechless.

Vag I've told her not to bother coming after the baby is born. I did give her a piece of my mind too. So I'm probably marked down as a loony parent