October 2011: Gaining teeth but still losing sleep.

[sassy34264]

hope this works! the pressure is on at 3.30am!!!!

jnice - L is same age as J I think (22 oct) she's been a real pickle lately (actually she's hitting herself in head and bfing as I type). I an pretty sure this is lead up to big growth spurt. Have you started experimenting with solids yet, or waiting till 26 weeks. I know what you me re skin crawling. Sometimes I feel completely "touched out" with J and ds1 & ds2 making demands and need half an hour on my own, bathing or doing a job (escaped down tip yesterday) J is full if cold and teething too so I'm just going with it. Babies don't wake themselves up, they wake for a reason. It's bloody hard tho especially when you just drop off and they wake up. Last night was 10, 1am and 4.30 at which point she decided to sing... Grrrr. Then cried and nurses back to sleep till almost 7. She's had tiny bit of breakfast and nursing again.

Re crawling, she's not actually crawling just up on all 4s trying and moving backwards a bit. I'm ignoring it hoping she'll decide to leave it a bit longer.

Waiting for garage to let me know car has arrived. Got reg number and deposit paid. So excited.

Going to take kids to town today, via a little pier train and then ferry. Don't need anything really but thought would be fun (and cheap) to go on ferry.

Glad other people ate struggling with the sleep thing. It at least, I'm sorry you are but in glad we're not alone.

We've been trying to wean Alex off overnight feeds. I feed him when he wakes at around midnight and then go and sleep in the spare room until 5/6 whenever seems reasonable for breakfast. We've been doing it for about 10 days and its made sod all difference. He's been waking at 2, screaming for half an hour, quiet for 5 mins then has another 5 minute shout and goes back to sleep and then repeats this ay 4ish and after about an hour DH comes and gets me to feed him. They have been go-sleeping from about 2.

We can't co-sleep if I feed him overnight because he's too sicky and whilst I'm happy to change the cot/drawer sheet in the middle if the night I'm not prepared to wrestle our duvet into submission in the early hours.

Anyway last night I fed him at quarter to 10. Because of his reflux he needs to sit upright for half an hour and I invariably fall asleep holding him so I put him down in his cot about half twelve and decamped. His crying woke me just after half 3 so I went through and fed him and we all slept until 7.

He shouldn't need a.middle of the night feed but slept so much better having had one. He's just started on solids this week- mush at lunch time and blw at tea time. He's 25w and we gave up weighing him when he hit 19lb at 4mo.

We go on holiday next week and it won't be fair on the neighbours to have him screaming in the night so I'm minded to throw away 10 nights of attemped sleep training and feed on demand. Does anyone have any advice?

4am, and 4th time waking. I think there will be a max 2 hrs more sleep

scheh - I go from one extreme to the other and think it might be time for CC but not sure whether the stress will send me over the edge. The lack of sleep is finishing me off though for sure.

mama - something is definitely up as this is crazy. He is refusing bottles now too. Does feel like another GS is on the way. I think solids are a good idea but need to get the high chair sorted (I have the antilop that was recalled, need the new harness).

lemming - no good advice here I'm afraid except I feel your pain. Reflux is getting worse instead of better here. More during the day though. Hope you do better soon!

pink - thanks! Yes, most feeds at night I lie down now. He goes back to his cot but sometimes I fall asleep although trying not to cosleep so much now.

Jnice - I have an antilop too, it just has a harness around the middle - is this an issue? It was bought about 3 years ago.
Sounds like a GS to me too, or maybe he's coming down with something and wants lots of comfort feeding. :(

Ok - found the recall notice now, will take a look.

Pene I meant to say the other day I wished you had used that old favoured mumsnet phrase on your Stepfather "gosh did you mean that to sound so mean/horrid"? -that'd have made him realise. Unless he has the hide of a rhino of course.

Aren't they supposed to play with car/toys etc on their own and use their own imagination anyway ?

Hang in there those with rubbish sleep. With the growth spurts/Wonder Weeks I feel able to deal with those easier because I feel like there is light at the end of the tunnel and they will come out of it soon, fx crossed for tonight that is!

Mama do you think J has ear-ache because of her cold and that's why she is grabbing it?

Jnice can you sleep with L on you and a big pillow behind you (so you are sort of upright a bit). I had to do that for a while with P a while back.

Do they really not need a feed in the middle of the night now? My baby has not been informed of this :)

Neither have my two!!!! They still feed in the night -Ayse Rose at least twice..

eva has slept all night- from 8pm till 7pm since i first mentioned on here that she slept through for the 1st night. so that must be 2-3 weeks now. i swear by her wearing a cardigan over her vest and sleepsuit, even if i have the heating on (low) or a grow bag. i think it really works, but it could just be coincidence- worth a try maybe?.

scheh your routine looks good. i feed eva first, because i want her to eat it and then top up with milk. i think if they have milk first they are not always interested in the food. but i know the advice is the other way round.
you know me- i just seem to beat to a different drum!

cheshire ha at your grandad. i got dp to change them to stop jacob from trapping isobel's fingers, as he is obessesed with opening and closing doors. it wasnt even 3 weeks before he figured it out.

lemmings no advice on the travelling, as we havent been on a hol yet!
when i looked into reflux for jnice it said that having the upright afyer feeds can make them worse? have you been advised to do it? or do you do it to stop choking?

the advice is so conflicting isnt it. no wonder everyone is so confused!

nope mine either! Mhairi gets a dreamfeed at around 12pm then wakes at 3amish for a feed then again after 5am {yawn}

pink here's the info:

Safety is always a top priority at IKEA and we ask customers who have an ANTILOP high chair from supplier %2317389 with production date 0607-0911 (YYMM), to immediately contact IKEA at 1-800-661-9807.

Don't worry too much if you've used the dodgy belt. My Ds2 used it fine for at least 18 months without a fall, but best to get it sorted so it's a trip to Ike's for me this week (sigh)

And the Ikea link www.ikea.com/ms/en_CA/customer_service/current_important3.html

Ah, didn't see the other post pink - hope you don't have to bother about it!

I don't think babies necessarily are ready to sttn with no feed at this age, but 2 feeds should be enough surely! Leo is being very unreasonable at the moment

Yes, mine is faulty too! Grrrr!! Thanks for letting me know about this Jnice.

Jnice - I just called their number and they're sending me a new belt in the next few days. You don't need to go there if you need one quickly.

Ooh, I will give them a call! Thanks

Sassy; that's really interesting. We were advised to keep him upright but if we don't he just rolls onto his front and throws up.

jnice, have you started on solids yet? We started on Tuesday and he's been much less sick. Mind you, we've had a really Alex friendly week in terms of my meals, no spices, garlic, dairy or soya. So I'm not sure if its my diet or his that has caused the change. There are so many bloody variables that its impossible to verify anything.

lemming - no, need to sort out the high chair but will do that ASAP. What solids have you started and what do you think is helping?

jnice hope you get a better nights sleep tonight

Re feeding in the night, W doesn't need this anymore, he only wakes hungry in the night if for some reason he's had a day of not much food like when he's feeling poorly, he does however need re-settling a couple of times usually, normally just putting him back in the middle of his cot and giving his dummy back.

scheh so pleased your starting to feel better :)

Hello elgolden I wasn't on the antenatal threads, I found this lovely bunch after my DS was born. I've found it really helps to have other people at roughly the same stage to moan with/offer advice etc. Hope your SPD has improved/gone (sorry if that sounds wrong I luckily have no experience of it myself)

Cauliflower is officially off the menu for a while here gave W some for lunch and he promptly vomited it plus the milk he'd had back up! He's been cranky ever since poor little guy.

Ooh poor w.

Jnice because Alex isn't 6 mo until next week we're mostly just on root veg. We did one meal of baby rice and banana (he'd had banana before when he stole some from me) and then we've had buttetnut squash, sweet potato and avocado and sticks of cucumber, pear, avocado, romanesco and carrot. I'm avoiding acidic fruit and veg at the moment but others friends with reflux babies haven't found a problem with it.

I've bought some rice cakes too so we'll try those in the coming days. I've also bought some 4 grain porridge which we'll try with pureed dried fruit to see if offsets the Gaviscon constipation.

Somehow weaning, like everything else, is

Sorry - had to post; I lost my keyboard on my phone.

Its all more fun second time around. Bizarrely I'm finding more time to notice Alex's reaction to stuff. I think with C I was just desperate for her to do the next thing.

Congratulations on the sleeping Eva Sassy

Lemmings this is a bit of a stupid moan really but I am finding weaning a bit of a pain because I have to think about what P is going to have 3 times a day and I am not that regimented with my own food. In my book I realised last night she had tried nearly everything they suggested (a full page worths).

Whereas I would probably just have a Snickers/toast for lunch (if anything at all), clearly this would not be appropriate for a baby.

PLUS it's DH that cooks as I have no imagination. I think I made the porridge too sloppy this morning so she couldn't really grab handfuls

chesire they don't need three meals yet so you can give yourself some off here and there, or just give left-overs. DD used to have the same dinner as us and then have it again for lunch the next day.

DS has a sausage today traitor he loved it.

as for holidays, I would say relax. In our experience it tends to be a lot better than expected. Normally due to going to bed late etc.

as for not needing feeds in the night, I hope some people aren't feeling guilty. Some babies do, it is not just an age thing and not always a food thing. If you are happy giving breast as a comfort feed then do it.

Night weaning has helped people, but also not made a bit of difference to plenty more. So before you do it ask yourself how you feel it didn't make a difference, unfussed, guilty? DD was fed until 13 months, she weaned when I was pg. For another 6 weeks we would have to feed her solids last thing, she'd wake at 5, scoff a load of porridge and then go back to sleep. Her night waking continued for a while longer.