The brookers post graduate thread

[hawthers]

We've got so good at brooking no argument for no pregnancy complications and sneeze births, we're going for our Phds in big fat babies

I've worked out how Scarlet could go next and still keep the boy girl pattern going....

It's going to be boy girl twins.... that have been missed on the scans

FFS. I took 2 hours from the 3:45 wake up to get both fed etc. Then had less than an hour before Seb up again. Followed shortly by Ben. I've got sore nipples from feeding all night and I'm headachey and exhausted.

Why on earth did I say dh could go??? My mum is coming to help in a bit but argh.

Good. Glad scarlet is now having undiagnosed twins, we can complain together :-)

Glad to hear feeling a bit better down below jaggy

3 hours in the car... Gulp... Sharing a hotel room. You are a very good friend indeed pomme. Chocolate buttons for the toddler, boob in mouth or being jigged at the back for the baby pomme?

Gosh Biscuits don't joke about that! Someone else actually said that to me the other day too. Surely it would have been picked up at one of the 6 scans I've had?

I have to admit to a sense of dread after reading this thread about the night feeds. I found it such a lonely time, it's one thing I'm not looking forward to.

Dream I think you must be world's most tolerant wife. There's NO WAY I would be letting DH off out for an all dayer with 2 week old twins especially if he'd spent his paternity leave being next to no help already due to illness and refusing to help in the night. If he's recovered now I'd be setting him tasks over the last couple of days before work. You're so much nicer than me. Have you got anyone coming to help you out today? You must feel at your wits end.

No news from me I'm afraid, I'm just heading in for my pre-op appt as planned. It feels a bit surreal, when I booked this appt I was soooo sure I'd have my baby before the scheduled date! Never mind, it's almost time!

Dream it really does seem incredibly early for your DH to go on an all day stag do?! Is there no option for him to just attend part of the day, such as dinner? Also I have to second Hawthers, I do hope this is a very close important family member. Either way, make sure that if he's getting a day off you should have one within the next week as well! One day where you do nothing but lie in bed and sleep/relax, with your DH bringing the boys to you for feeding but doing EVERYTHING else himself! For a whole day! That's the only fair trade off...

Hawthers I'm sorry you're having such a difficult time at the moment. This too shall pass. I have an eerie feeling I'll be writing very similar posts to you in just a few days time, because I am a grumpy lady when tired... Fingers crossed for DS1 settling down soon and little F also getting more sleep.

(I really need to stop posting on your thread prematurely! Sorry! I just spend a lot of time on here lurking picking up newborn tips, and because I know all you lovely ladies I always want to respond when you have a bad day!)

Hmm. He's gone 8:30-6. I felt sorry for him because he's been ill and had a horrible coroner's inquest he had to attend yesterday. Regret it now. Both babies still being menaces, won't be put down so me n my mum struggling as DD wants picking up/ playing with more than we can do... It's an old school friend, who introduced us.

scarlet I majorly get the Night Dreads. :-(

Shame.no new babies to not have to, having barely slept, again to wake up too

He's had to help a bit more last night too to stop me commiting infanticide

Dream

Have a big squeezy hug my love. Thank goodness for your mum being there to help you out.

Honestly I really do wish I lived near you and could help you out.

I know this is scarce reassurance at the moment but it will get better. And once they've got past this teeny tiny newborn stage those boys will have the benefit of always having each other. Hopefully this will reap you some rewards as they go through being older babies and toddlers.

But I realise that ain't much good now when you're stuck in a continuous cycle of feeding, winding and changing.

Have another hug my love.

Seriously though if your DH rocks up drunk when he gets home and isn't able to help you this evening / tonight I might have to come and 'ave a word with him.....

dream i'll bloody well drive up there and give him a thick ear myself

dream hope you're surviving ok! our house looks like a tip and we.re shattered after 3 days of only 1 tiny person.

i just totally failed to get me and the boys ready to go out for a walk and by the time I'd gone round in circles for a bit DS2 wanted fed again. i seem to have woken him up a bit. i was worried he was sleeping too much and not feeding enough, so i had him in beside me skin rn skin while DS1 napped. he's back to squeaking for food again. :)

right away for a hobble round the village!

You may all smack me, but I am freaking out because Maia is sleeping too much! My boobs are enormous and leaking. She slept for 5.5 hours between 9pm and 2.30am, fed from right boob only before going back down at 3.30, slept for 3 hours until 6.30am, by which time my left boob had basically exploded in bed, leaked through breast pad, bra and nightie and was still so engorged that she could barely get her mouth around the nipple. She fed for about 35 mins and then I swapped her to the right in case that boob exploded too, but she only fed for 5 mins or so before falling asleep and I put her down at 7.30. She then slept for another 3 hours until 10.30, was up until just before 1pm, slept for 3 hours while we went out for lunch with PIL and has just fed for less than an hour before falling asleep again. I am clearly making much more milk than she wants right now (have leaked all down my top despite having pad in) - is this normal?

Dream, that is an adorable photo with the boys nose to nose! Love it! They look distinctly unidentical, don't they? You are a saint for letting your DH go to the stag do! He's not going to come back plastered, is he?

Hawthers, this too shall pass, this too shall pass...and you are not a mean mummy when you're tired!

Too, could it just be that as she's getting a bit bigger, she can go a bit longer between feeds? If it is that, then your milk supply will catch up and match her soon enough surely? How's she doing now?

Still v sleepy. This may be a flash in the pan and she'll be up all night to make up for it.

too, I have cracked. I am desperate for some sleep. Jealous of M! Not coping. But don't worry, she'll probably have you up all night! Babies are very robust little creatures, try not to worry n make the most of it!! My titch can go 5 hours.

too, also I only ever feed mine from one boob each. its fine. I did the same with DD too actually as if I gave both she just threw up more!

Ooh yes me too on the one boob thing - I would say e only has anything off the second side less than 5% of the time. But it would be odd for your boobs if they're used to both being used - hence the explosions! It will all catch up one way or the other.

How's your DH?

Another one boober per feed here.

Oh my god. People voluntarily cosleep with toddlers?! Dd1 insisted on sleeping in the double with me with dh in the single. Worst nights sleep ever.

And the really ironic bit? A did her best night ever feeding at midnight and four only.

I may have burst into tears at 5am

Oh Pomme! Sorry you had a bad night's sleep! I can't imagine sharing a bed with DS1 - I'd probably look like I'd gone a few rounds with Tyson by the morning from all the poking and fidgeting around he'd have done!

But yay for A doing a great night. Just think of it this way - I'm sure it's the first of many great nights by A even if they're not consecutive good nights but you can probably not make sharing with DD1 a permanent arrangement? So you have lots of good nights with A to look forward to? Probably scarce comfort this morning though.

We had a good night too last night - E fed at 10, 2:45 and 6:15! I'll take that (even if he just kept being sick every time i got into bed after the 2:45 one so I never actually got back to sleep until about 4:30 while he managed to make a whole load of washing!) Obviously knew his grandma was coming to check up on him

Hope everyone else is ok too. And Scarlet and Scream are doing ok?

Oh no pomme! Is today the day of the wedding then? Is it only one night in the hotel? Cosleeping?! Ha! I certainly don't sleep if I have DD in with me, which only ever happens if she's really quite ill.

Last night i alternated between sobbing on the sofa or sobbing in bed. The boys are still one or both on the boob from 7-8pm to midnight-1am. I don't know how long I can carry on like this. I have still had no more than 4 hours broken sleep a night, often 3. Majorly struggling!

Dream, more hugs from me. You really are superwoman. This too shall pass...

So excited (and a tad jealous) that Scarlet and Scream should also both be joining you imminently..!

I, very much like Scream, am lurking to find out how you're all doing - and to learn lots about the madness I'm about to embark on. As well as trying to adopt the no brooking "This too shall pass" motto, which as relevant as it feels during certain points of pregnancy I can see is much more important during the early weeks/months.

Hello all broken exhausted mummies...I was also crying at 5am, Pomme and Dream. M had indeed just been resting in the daytime so she could be up all night . She was awake from 11.30 to 1.45am, then up at 3.30 and then she just would not go back to sleep! Or not in her basket, anyway. Also, for some reason, my nipples were agony last night. I think it had something to do with the engorgement - I had been struggling to feed her because of the engorgement in the evening and I think her latch had been poor enough to hurt me. I expressed 90ml with the greatest of ease between feeds at about 11pm, which helped with the latch, but the damage had already been done to my poor nipples. However, at 5 o'clock this morning I had not worked that all out and was convinced we must have developed thrush or something and I woke DH up and cried all over him. She was feeding (which was like broken glass on my nipples) for 5 mins, falling asleep but then waking up as soon as I tried to put her down, for three hours. I had to keep removing her from the boob because it was hurting too much, which wasn't helping. I felt horrible for doing it but I just couldn't stand it. DH eventually took her off to the living room, put her in the pram and bounced her a bit and she fell asleep and stayed asleep for 2.5 hours, thank God.

I am a bad person for being annoyed by my PIL hogging M. I don't mind when my parents do it... Maybe that's because with my parents I know they won't be offended if I say I want her back now. Anyway, PIL have left now so she's all mine again (and DH's, I suppose).

Dream, how old are the twins now? It will get better. They are still really young - they'll start sleeping more soon, I'm sure. This too shall pass, this too shall pass...You poor lovey. You too, Pomme.

Oooh, howls coming from the pram again. That's been 40 mins since the last time.

dream - hang on in there. Can your dh not carry on helping you at night? Hope todays going okay and your dh is spoiling you. My dh sleeps in the spare room which is downstairs so he gets off very easily!

Wedding was yesterday. Journeys were ok. Wedding ok. Dd1 loved it, I spent the day feeding including during the whole church ceremony.

Night was hideous. Dd1 didn't drop off till half eleven. I ended up sleeping on the floor as could not cope with sharing the bed with her. The noise she makes with her dummy fast asleep makes me want to peel my own skin off,

Dd2 sleeping like an angel made me feel sooo frustrated hence the tears.

Yesterday her cold and eye were better which will have contributed to better night. Today she is snotty and gunky again managing only short rubbish feeds

Have the night dreads already! Also worried about her weight again too.

However we have done it and survived.

Hope everyone else is having a lovely weekend!

X posted with too!

Maybe last night was something in the water then?

At least you've given us a downside to good sleeping. Something to hang onto in the dark hours...

My dh is as much use as a chocolate teapot and twice as grumpy today. Feel like I've got four children not three. Haven't made it out of the house. He sleeps in the spare room too, but its next door to me and the duo so he'll be using earplugs tonight.

too, the twins are 18 days old. Without wanting to wish their lives away I can't wait til they sleep a little better as I'm hopeless like this.

pomme Ben has slept all morning. I have the Night Dreads already. Infacol May be helping him. How bad would it be to use the same bottle for them both? I've only got one and its Sunday... (As in village pharmacy not open, bit of a mission to go and get some for Seb)

Also got sore nipples as neither getting any kind of break. Ouch ouch ouch!!