Sept 2008 - no witty title as we're too busy dealing with stroppy 3 yr olds.

[MrsArchchancellorRidcully]

Hello all. Couldn't see a new thread so thought I'd do the honours. Sorry for rubbish title, I'm no good at witty! :)

badvoc for lack of bday plans and for poor little Toby. It's one of my main worries for ds1 as he's so young.

carrie I think I agree with others that the teacher should take much more care with your dd's welfare, especially as its a recurring medical condition. Poor dd.

Feeling sorry for myself as I have mastitis again. Currently at the walk-in as the gp has no appointments today. So the first night in months that ds2 only wakes once I'm lying in bed with insomnia feeling the aches and shivers take hold.

Oh dg you poor thing!
Hope it clears up soon...
Dh is home! :)
Hurrah!
Heirs in the shower as we speak and is determined to stay awake til this evening...don't think he will make it tbh...
Am feelings bit pants myself...not sure if it's a uti, amaemia or just getting older...:)

Hurrah for badvoc's DH being home!
Boo for DG's mastitis :(

Thank you for your advice everyone, you are a wise bunch of friends

Off to make a vat of spag bol...rock and roll

Well, today is day 3 of work and it's going OK. DS has settled into nursery like a dream. No crying and he has mastered front crawl so is now dominating all the girl babies who sit where they are and coo and smile Soooo different from DD's settling in. In fact the only downside was I arrived at my desk on Tuesday (working from home) to find my boss is in Cyprus this week with work and hadn't even had the courtesy to email me to welcome me back or let me know he wasn't in. I found that incredibly rude.
I am enjoying the cuppas in peace :)

Carrie your poor DD. I get where you are coming from but also the other comments too. I'd be inclined to keep going with the teacher but if things don't improve pdq then go see the head.

DG oh no - hope you feel better soon.

Badvoc yay for hubby being back, boo that you feel down. I found my 40th this year fine. It was my 35th that was a killer for me. It's rubbish when friends and family don't do things you might appreciate.

If we are swapping stories like ninja's, DP propsed to me on my 40th but we haven't told anyone over 6m later as he wants to get me a ring and we can't afford one. I don't give a fig for a ring -it's the marriage that's important.
And in the vein of black humour to keep me sane, for my first appointment at the hospital for my termination I had to take DS in his pram with me as there was no one to look after him. I did call beforehand and check it was OK but I did get some very odd looks from the other women in the waiting room. :(

Question - wwyd? Given the recent events with that poor little girl (hope she is found safe but it's not looking good is it) -have you done the stranger danger talk with yours and at what age? Someone even suggested asking nursery to get the police into the pre-school room as some forces give talks to that age group but not sure if it's overkill. I want DD to be alert but not too scared iyswim.

The dc and I have a code word.
They know that if I am ever not around to pick them up etc that whoever I send knows their code word.
Sounds made but it works!
It can be anything...funny, silly...whatever.
The dc just need to be able to remember it!
Congrats on the engagement Mrsa!!
Love weddings.
Love em!
:)

MrsA we have done the stranger danger talk every day this week now. I have laid it on pretty thick TBH, hopefully not enough to give them nightmares, but they do know that not every child comes back . I've told them it hardly ever ever happens though.

What makes it so bloody hard is that as we see it's often someone these poor children vaguely know, how the hell do you get that across? Trust no one?

That's my thought Meglet how to do it but not make her paranoid about everyone. Thing is, she;s so friendly she says hello to every random stranger and tonight said would it be ok to get into Handy Mannys car? What could I say? I just said she must not ever get into a car without going to get the trusted grown up that she is with. Damn hard.

I'm not sure you can ensure a child that young completely understands the seriousness of it. DS is almost 6 and is taking it in a lot more than DD, he was saying if anyone tried to take DD he would hit them.

We've also had a couple of chats about how no one is allowed to touch their bodies apart from them (or doctors if they are poorly and mummy is there). DD announced very loudly, "NOBODY is allowed to touch my vulva or bottom except ME because it's not appropriate!!" At least she listens to some things I say!

Sigh....
Sent 2 large bundles of really nice clothes to an mner who said she needed them free for postage.
Postage came to £15.
Dh paid it.
This is over a month ago and she is now not replying to pms.
Anything I can do?
Or do I just chalk it up to experience?

badvoc maybe you should report her original post to MNHQ just to give them the heads up. There's probably not much they can do but I think they prefer dodgy stuff to be reported.

And feel free to name and shame on here!

DD has been sick for a day now. I thought she'd rallied yesterday evening but there was another round of green, watery sick in the night. She's just had some water and is under strict instructions to doze in bed so her body can rest. If this lot doesn't stay down then I think we'll be heading for the drop in centre at the hospital later. .......... Ooo, stop press! She's just gone for a wee and piddled quite a lot out. So somehow she's kept enough water in her over the last day to work it's way through. It really is a horrible bug, usually mine are happily nibbling rice cakes a few hours after first getting sick, never had such a problem with only water.

And DS is being an attention seeking pest because DD is ill. Which is not helping things at all.

DD is finally better, she perked up around lunchtime and started keeping things down. She was eating bread sticks and rice cakes all afternoon and had some potato wedges for tea .

Glad to hear that meg :)

Robyn has picked up a sickness bug as well. It has been doing the rounds on our estate and can be pretty bad. She came home from Nursery Thursday overtired and complaining of a belly ache, 2 big wees and 1 monster poo later and she was fine. Friday we went to dsis's straight after Nursery and she seemed fine until about 5pm. She wanted to go home and was whiney. I was just going to start getting ready to go when she threw up all over me, her and the settee.
On the way home we had to stop and change her again after she brought up that days dinner. She then fell asleep in just her vest huddled under a towel. Bed was very early and I think she has slept it off overnight. No sickness today and she has managed some food.
i OTOH haven't eaten properly since yesterday dinner and feel so rough. I've managed the odd slice of toast but I am then heaving and sweating for a couple of hours afterwards. Not been sick yet which is a huge bonus. I did fall asleep clutching a bowl last night just in case. Just looking at food is disgusting and so not like me.

I have loads of college work to do and a full week next week as I have been accepted on the Doula training course so I can't be ill. I don't know what I could take as I haven't actually been sick yet I feel as if that is all I have been doing. My stomach feels sore as if I have been retching.

Anyway off to bed as I am bone tired now and I can't concentrate on my work

Sorry to hear about the sickness bug :( Its doing the rounds here too, I expect its only a matter of time before one of us goes down with it, but frankly none of us have got the time! DH is working in another office for the next 2 days so leaving at the crack of dawn and poss getting back after kids are in bed.
badvoc I'm guessing there's nothing MNHQ can do about it, but I'm sure they'd still like to know its happened. Maybe they've name changed and MN can track down who they now post as?

Yeah.
Chalk it up to experience I guess :(
Well...after moaning on about how I had no plans for my b day....
Went to a show on Friday, a gospel choir last night and then today dh had arranged a surprise family party at mils house! :)
Am very surprised :) had no idea!
Is actually my b day tomorrow but as tomorrow I will mostly be doing the school run and ironing :(
Sorry to hear of all the sickness...it's doing the rounds here too...and as carrie says I am sure we will succumb soon...

Need some reassurance I'm doing the right thing ladies. DS was a champion sleeper, 7-7 from 6wks but for the past 2 months he's been waking once a night, occasionally twice, and the quickest way to settle him was to give him a bottle whilst he was lying in his cot. Within 5mins he'd be back to sleep. He was poorly with a mild version of the sick bug a week ago and was waking 4 times a night and we had to admit that he was unable to settle himself without milk. Effectively we were giving him his morning bottle dsuring the night as he woke in the morning not hungry. I read a bit on mn and I can't do cc but I did recognise we had set a bad habit up and it was not about hunger but comfort. So...last night he woke at 12.30 and I tried a 'gentle' parent technique and basically stayed with him in his room, shushing and telling him I was there, he was safe and it was sleep time. He cried ands cried until 1.45am :( He then slept till 6.45 and took a bottle fine. He seems happy as anything but I feel so awful abut doing it. I've never done any form of sleep training before and he was sobbing and sobbing. Everyone tells me he's 10m old, he's old enough now. Anyone got any thoughts? Like I said, couldn't leave him so will he remember I was there or will he just remember the upset?

I don't know Mrsa.
I am a wuss and couldn't do any form of sleep training with mine..
I am sure someone will be along in a minutes with some words of wisdom...

MrsA he will be fine. He's not going to be scarred for life for it .

Me and DD are pottering about at home today. I need to catch up after her sickness bug thrown my plans out of the window.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BADVOC!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And may I say you don't look a day over 21 ;)

On a more mundane note, I had a phonecall from the slightly creepy GP today to say DS1's stool sample showed rotovirus. Have to say we hadn't actually noticed him being in any way poorly...!

But DD is having poo accidents every day as a side effect of her antibiotics

I have real life in front of me... I have earned it!!! Actually DH has done more of the cleaning up, bless 'im.

MrsA just to encourage you, DS2 has only recently started sleeping through again after a long spell of having milk in the night. For him it seemed to be genuine hunger (but like you said, then he didn't want any breakfast). I put it down to him starting to finger feed, but couldn't ingest the amount of food he actually needed to fill him up (which is why I was against BLW in the first place - it seemed to be a case of Baby Limited Weaning in this house) but around that age he started refusing the spoon and would spit everywhere so we had no choice but to let him feed himself. We would give him a bottle at about 4:45 (actually it was often precisely 4:44am, weird...) and then he'd have no breakfast, but a massive snack at about 9:30. Sorry that doesn't really help you does it?!! DS2 is a thumb sucker, so even if he cries out in the night, he usually fairly quickly finds his teddy and pops his thumb back in, so I'm afraid I don't have experience of hard core night CC other than with DD which was a long time ago. I think it came good though.

I'm waffling now, blame the

Carrie...why thank you it's quite funny actually, Dhs aunt bought me wrinkle cream, and not in an ironic way :)
"Well you need it now dear"
:)
Have overdone it on the cake and choc today...and now feel a bit sick.
I am 40 fgs! I should not eat til I feel sick :)
Both mine still wake in the night...ds1 much less so now but he is ill ATM so will be up again tonight no doubt :(
Sorry to bear the ABs are making your dd ill..Toby always gets the runs on ABs too.
Will she eat bananas? I find they are quite...erm...binding :)
Wrt the poo sample...I am pretty sure that any proportion of a given population would have rotavirus in their system without it causing major problems?
Off to bed soon...shattered (well, I am getting in a bit now....)

Happy Birthday Badvoc glad you had a party in the end.

I'm no help MrsA both mine fed into the night up to twice that age

Interesting comments, thanks (and happy birthday Badvoc enjoy being 40!! I'm 41 next time )

Thought long and hard about this one cos I was convinced he was not hungry. He slept through well after he'd started to wean and started to drop milk in the day and it was wlays his choice. It just became really obvious that he wasn't hungry, it was simply comfort. Like DP said, if he had been hungry he wouldn't have gone to sleep at 1.45am and then not awoke till almost 7am.
I am still not feeling 100% happy with it as he did cry himself to sleep in effect but I was with him the whole time. I only left him once for a wee and DP came and stayed with him whilst i did that. He could see us, feel and hear us the whole time.

i think whilst it was one feed in the night, at 10m I am ok with that and that could be genuine hunger. But it had become every couple of hours and he was starting to be incapable of going to sleep without a bottle. And it was affecting his daytime naps. If he was a newborn, fair enough but he is only 8 weeks off being 1.

Whilst he was ill and not eating much, i was happy to feed him in the night (and still would if ill now but this time I'd pick him up and put him back still awake) but the first time he woke 4 times was after he had eaten more at nursery than DD! He took a couple of ounces and dropped off then was up again 2 hrs later. He was snacking at every wake up and waking DD. I believe in baby led but not to the detriment of the rest of us.

So......yesterday he had 2 daytime naps like normal and we had a day to the beach (DD paddled!!) and....the alarm woke me at 6.30am :)

I vaguely recall waking at 2am and wondering if I should check his breathing as he was so quiet but he slept well, and took a full bottle when he woke. I am hoping I helped him to remember how to self settle without milk but of course we will see tonight.

Badvoc the hollow laugh was for me btw, not you!!

Glad it worked out Mrsa :)
Would be so much easier I they came with instructions like stuff from ikea wouldn't it?:)