October 2011 - weaning here we come!

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scheh sort of daft idea dh would have but your dinner did sound delicious

Jessica not a happy baby tonight. Starting to wonder if she's coming down with same bug a ds2. Don't know whether to give calpol, not feverish, just keeps Crying, even for bath time. I'm not a huge fan of giving calpol freely.

fuzzy see your gp for reassurance if hv such a class a cow. I know they checked J at 6 weeks to see of she took weight on her legs (she did). Thought it was an indicator of hip issues, tho I could be wrong.

J whimpering got to go

to be fair I don't deal with cow's milk as I bf and I'm a vegan. DD has oat milk.

I managed to get DS down twice today and left him sleeping. On the negative side I tried him in the buggy again today as he was no where near tired when we were leaving. He still cried loads. I ended up running to playgroup (which actually was nice)

He had just a couple of feeds in the night.

Sorry to hear people are struggling, I've found 4 months the toughest stage (so far) with both of them. Just as you feel like you're getting somewhere it goes tit's up. btw there is a growth spurt at 6 months, for us with DD it was just one, but very intense night.

Sche that sounds utterly gorgeous.

Wassup, with you on the unpredictability. By breakfast time this morning a had fed for nearly an hour. He had nothing during the morning, then howled because lunch was late but 10mins in was utterly distracted by the kitten and just wanted to watch and stroke her and really didn't want milk (and then was promptly sick all over me...). He had another short feed at 4 and has ended to with a bedtime dream feed because he couldn't stay awake.

I'm still a bit undecided about weaning. We have a weeks holiday booked when a is 6mo and 4 days and I think the whole puree thing might be too hard whilst we're away. Might try him on some chunks of non acidic fruit and veg and stuff. Fruit, veg, toast, pasta... Anything I've missed?

Who else here has a reflux baby? Have you had any advice from your consultant other than the earlier the better. I'm assuming acidic food will make things worse rather than better. I've had no useful weaning advice from A's consultant but he was referred for potential neuro problems not digestion!
I'm not going to try any sort of milk or soy products for a bit since he's bad when I eat them. I had some soy ice cream for lunch yesterday and he was very sick through the afternoon and again today but I do need to keep a proper food diary Incase its coincidence.

found this advice in an medic journal about giving cows milk to under 12 months.

Cow's milk is more specific to a baby cow than a baby human. Cow's milk formula is based on cow's milk but has been engineered to be closer to human milk (still a ways off, but closer). Many infants still have problems with cow's milk formula (allergies, GI problems, etc.). Babies who are exposed to cow's milk before their first birthday are more likely to be anemic, have diarrhea or vomiting, and/or experience an allergic reaction (the proteins in milk are more numerous than those in other milk products, such as the yogurt). The excessive protein load in cow's milk can also overload a baby's kidneys. It is deficient in vitamins C, E, and copper. It is harder to digest as well, often causing intestinal blood loss. A number of studies have also indicated that early introduction of cow's milk may contribute to the development of Insulin-Dependent Diabetes Mellitus.

DD is soy intolerant. I am as well so she didn't have any for the first year anyway.

sassy see, being a vegan is easier

fuzzy ive not seen anyone about it yet. they give me an appointment for tomorrow, but its dp's interview, so i cancelled and got one on monday. i would be a bit at your hv for saying show me a baby who does, as all my other 3 did it and she must have come across more than 3 babies in her job- but to be honest i am fastly losing faith in the medical profession. esp, nurses, midwives and hv's. some of the things they say are shocking. 'are they identical' about jacob and isobel. ???!!!!!! no. one has a penis and the other has a vagina! its basic biology ffs.

scheh me and dp are really good tbh. had a lot of heart to hearts over last few weeks and feel better than ever. it may not last though!

fuzzzy that's a load of crap. C can support himself easily standing up, there's a photo on my fb. We hold his hands to balance and he'll stand for ages (20 mins at the least). In fact we can't get him to sit down, he just straightens his legs to push off.

Still no rolling though!

That's interesting sassy. I honestly won't be in any rush to give cows milk anyway. Def not to drink before 1 and it's just as easy to add some of her formula to her cereal in the morning. I take it yogurt and cheese is safe to introduce now? She will be 23 wks this fri

pa I'd love to be a vegan! Im a half hearted vegi, but really eat very little meat (maybe once a wk). Good for you

penguin so is being laid back- im in no great panic to do everything asap. they have years to eat. i quite like them to be babies for as long as possible, but thats probably cos i know how fast it goes. dd1 is 12 this time and thinks she is 21! i dont feel old enough to have a 12 year old.

I only put something on his tray as it stops him crying I'm in no rush, for those worried about holiday's etc, when we've gone away at less than a year we just laid off solids for those days. If it was easy to give we did, but didn't go out of our way to feed her. I don't think it is some big commitment you can't go back on and it's not straight into three meals a day either.

Would someone take this biscuits away before I eat the whole pack please?

fuzzy i usually introduce yogurt 2nd after baby rice, so yeah i think its ok to start at 23 weeks- but i only give them yogurts for babies, petit filous and something else but i cant remember its name. it does say on the packaging that its suitable for weaning at 4months though. i waited till 12 months to give any other type of yogurts.
im not sure about cheese. i wouldnt because i would think its too salted, but thats only my gut reaction, not something i have read anywhere. i'll look into it.
my thought process-but i know i am a bit militant- is that until they are 12 months, they have everything for babies, ie, baby cereal, pasta, sauces etc as i presume that there will be less salt in than the adult version, plus fruit and veg and a bit of meat that i have prepared, so i know what is in it.

i know i am quite strict though, cos j and i have never trief chocolate, crisps, cake or ice cream. they have had a biscuit but only a handful of times at playgroup. i told the woman not to give them one as i dont let them have them yet, but jacob managed to get hold of one when i turned my back to pick eva up. so i have relented and let them since. i take the attitude that they cant ask for sugary treats so why give them them? might as well fill them full of good stuff at this stage. they will more than make up for it as they get older, as my chocoaholic self can testify.

scheh - thanks and everyone else. Yes, a bottle might be a good idea, will see if I can express much and maybe get some formula too.

Sorry jnice I hope I wasn't too -militant- pushy. i hope you have better night. I guess for me, I'm very -too- keen to share my experience and knowledge. Just wish i had been given more support with ds1

i think cheese is ok i know a few of the sauces in the annabel karmel books have mascarpone etc.

with DS i gave constant jars as i didnt know how to cook and i think this has contributed to his ridiculous fussiness. he literally lives on crap or he would starve i am a LOT more confident in the kitchen now though and can make a few sauces from scratch and i'm not bad at risotto which is easy to change. i'm also more confident with what things go together to make new recipes.

Hi all, hope everyone OK. I'm not thinking about weaning yet but good to read up all the advice on here for when we are ready.

Thought you guys might be interested in this article - this woman annoys me so much....SHE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE KIDS!!

uk.lifestyle.yahoo.com/sex-child-birth-time-112000549.html
How about the exhausted mum whose been through so much physically, mentally and emotionally feeling loved. If the dad can't cope then he needs to grow some balls. She should not be making new mums feel guilty about this. Urgh, this has got me really annoyed!

tally there a thread about this, I'll bump it up for you. I was so pissed off with gf's attitude but then I am most definately not a gf fan.

pa can you tell me how to wean a vegan child? If A is milk and soy intolerant what do I feed him? Is veg and lentils and beans enough? Where does he get calcium? Will I need to bf/express until 2+?

i think she gives advice on nutrition too and she is obese!

she is not for me at all. that's putting it extremely nicely- cos we are not supposed to talk about her on here- as she has sued mumsnet already (i think)

sassy yup she tried to sue mn. I remember that saga well. can't fucking stand her parenting guru shit

scheh lol tho I think Mn towers may remove your post for fear of being sued.

Aye lol, I just reported it myself so they know.

Absolutely disgusting for so many reasons though.

Lol, have you seem other thread. She's a bloody awful woman