December 2011 - This too shall pass (with the help of imaginary woolly mammoths)

[Mmmmcheese]

Have gone with LMFs title suggestion :)

[Figgygal]

Im in bed with the ipad DS refused to belch after falling asleep on his bottle that usually means delayed projectile vomit in his moses so am on stand by with muslins to save his clothes, sleeping bag etc. Still loving retreating to bed with the ipad watching tv on I player and 4 OD i refused to have tv in our room when we moved here so its all very novel.

Aims for the week:
Agree pt return to work (work calling me tomorrow to confirm outcome of my request so fingers crossed)
Remember to take vitamins, do pelvic floor exercises, stretchmark care
Begin buying 3-6 month wardrobe for DS (and only buy half the amount of 0-3 clothes i ended up buying as most if it is going to waste)
Return to zumba classes

[seven77]

figgy glad I'm not the only one who buys far too many baby clothes!

Does listening to the Red Hot Chilli Peppers whilst knitting with a blanket on my legs make me less of an old lady?

[EasilyBored]

Good luck tomorrow cool hand, hope it's nothing serious.

seven, knitting is cool now. Or so I try and tell myself.

figgy I know, I don't know what people did before smart phones and tablets! I would have gone stir crazy in those early days if I hadn't had my kindle.

Gave squeaker a bottle at eight, took nearly an hour to get him to sleep and I'm now trying to ignore his odd grumbles through the monitor.
Am determined to get him into a routine, I must be strong and firm and not cave and just let him sleep on me. Gah! It's so hard! I'm not going to leave him to cry, but I'm used to going to him whenever he squeaks. Thanks for the support about the feeding, is good too know other people get it.

kr is5 y, I thought we had a bunch of very cute baby boys on Friday!

If anyone wants to do facebook, maybe we could start a group on there? just a thought.

[Figgygal]

Id be up for a facebook group not that i would know how to set one up though!!

[OiMissus]

Thanks for the reminder figgy squeeeeze!
Am also up for fb (get me with my yoof abbreviations, am still young, lmao, or something).
cool a few years ago I had a biopsy of a cyst in my throat and was dreading it. But worry ye not about that bit, I barely felt it - he just drained off some fluid to send to be tested, but said he could tell by the fluid's colour that the cyst was harmless.
Crossed fingers for long, peaceful sleeps for all of us, our babies and our stupid dogs. g'night.

[hawthers]

Pre consultant visit weigh in this evening did not produce fantastic results. Will update during next feed when i'll have plenty of time to vent. Off to snatch an hours kip.

[hawthers]

Before I get into this I just want to be clear that I have nothing against ff and do not judge anyone who does. I just have baggage galore relating to this issue.

So f has gained only 100g in the last week. This means that he is now under the 2nd centile down from 25 at birth. He is not gaining enough to follow qvline let alone catching back up to the 25 centile.

I'm doing everything my bf adviser has told me to but nothing seems to make a difference. What if it is something up with f? Why the hell is he not gaining weight? lmf how did you manage your 12oz???

Feel like I'm being stupid by wanting to continue to bf when it clearly isn't working for f. I would have just liked :^one^ thing to work out/have choice in in this whole pg/birth/newborn stage.

F seems fine but the numbers just don't reflect this. Now we are too close to disappearing off the bottom of the charts to continue to stand my ground.just can't understand why nothing is working.

[Mmmmcheese]

Sorry to hear that hawthers, must be so frustrating. Expect you have already had him checked for tongue tie? And you've tried expressing after feeds too haven't you, and have got more milk out? I suppose if you end up trying ff top ups after feeds and he does start gaining then you know that its necessary? I don't know, sorry, what did consultant recommend?

Speaking of lumps, I found a small lump behind DDs ear tonight and now working mysaelf up into a worried state. Anyone know what it could be? Am avoiding Dr Google. We have a cranial osteopathy appt next Sat so was thinking of asking him then, or should I go to GP sooner than that? It feels kind of "free" IYKWIM and not the edge of a skull plate or anything

[mopsytop]

Sorry to hear you're struggling with bf hawthers. it's a massively emotive issue. I struggled for six weeks before putting her onto formula and suffered enormous amounts of guilt. It's not a simple issue. I hope things go ok with the consultant tomorrow. I, too, have felt frustrated at the lack of any kind of control over my own body that pregnancy/childbirth have entailed. So I sympathise entirely.

[hawthers]

Tongue tie has been ruled out. I do get a little more out when expressing but not masses so I guess it is still a supply issue.
mopsy thanks for the s
mmm the lump could be a glad that is up. Are there any colds in your family at the moment?

[hawthers]

Argh phone

mopsy thanks for the sympathies. Will have to wait to see what the consultant says.

[Mmmmcheese]

She does have a bit of a cold and it does feel like a gland but is not in a typical gland place ie is on the hard skull about a cm behind her ear, and there's nothingf on the other side which I would expect there to be if it was a gland.

[hawthers]

mmm ds1 had one about there I think and I'm fairly sure ds2 had a little vino there at the moment. I was going to let the consultant know tomorrow so I'll let you know what she says

[LittleMissFlustered]

hawthers Edward might be piling it on, but my older son didn't. He flatlined for months. Even using the acetate overlay charts he was drifting down the centiles. We were doing weekly weigh-ins and it was truly disheartening. However he was healthy. He was the right colour, alert, producing obnoxious substances in sensible (at times epic) amounts and was generally well. My health visitor hammered on about formula. She was determined it would solve his problems. Despite my history of depression, and the issues I had with inadequacy and failure she pushed and pushed. I caved and mix fed for a whole and it made no difference whatsoever. He was just small, with minimal weight gains, for a while. I went through the GP who referred us to the dietician t the hospital, nd she was the best person I spoke to. She actually looked at him. Not just a graph and the numbers. She looked at my baby nd spoke bout his habits. She want concerned, so I stopped going to weigh-ins and went with instinct as she advises.


He eventually 'clicked' and started gaining at a decent rate, but at that point he was weaning so we have no idea what to put the 'click' down to. He is fine though. Perfectly average size and attitude for his age.

What I'm trying to say, in a rambly four thirty stylee, is that sometimes it isn't an issue if they don't grow for a bit. If you're happy to continue breast feeding, and little one is well and healthy in all other ways, just turn off and concentrate on yourself and him. If you want to talk to someone, ask for a referral to the peadiatric dietician. I have very little fifth in health visitors, and GPs are often hobbled by their G, so go for the guys who deal with it day in an out.

[LittleMissFlustered]

Apologies for the dreadful typos up there. I'm half asleep, but wanted to offer some solidarity:)

[girlsyearapart]

Hello all. Checking in & probably not posting much til Tomorow..

Hawthers- I know what you mean re the bf ing emotion issue I mix feed H with the intention of only giving a bottle before bed but that seems to be increasing as he didn't seem to settle after a bf really.

Not giving up yet though!

Re dummies - took the kids swimming at the weekend & there was a little girl probably around 1.5/2 with a dummy in swimming about..

Dd1 never would take a dummy but had a totally feral comfort blanket.

Dd2 dummy only at nap & bedtime til age around 2.5

Dd3 has one & is 18 mo now I'm trying to be strict & get her to leave it in her cot but she will find one of ds s and suck that..
Never allowed to play or walk round with it in

Ds doesn't like his much although things would be easier all round if he would take to it..

[LittleMissFlustered]

And with regard to expressing. Three kids, and the last is the only one I hve ever been able to express for. My first gained weight fine, although if you took my supply and assessed it on expressable amounts you'd hve assumed she was starving all the time:) Some bodies just don't relinquish the milk unless bona fide baby credentials are provided at point of withdrawal:o

[EasilyBored]

Hawthers, sorry things are so hard at the minute. I'm afraid I don't have any practical advice, but sending lots of sympathy and hugs, you are obviously doing something right if you've got a happy baby, try not to get too stressed and I hope the gp is sensitive.

gah, squeaker woke up for good at 2, 4, and now again at half 5. He did take the eve bottle milk though, so going to keep going, think the first night feed will be the next to swap.

I can set up a fb group this evening, so if you fancy it PMyour name and I'll friend you and add you. Any suggestions about what we should call it?

[LittleMissFlustered]

The Top Secret Baby Wrangling Society.

Pass The Gin!

This Too Shall Pass.

Where's My Sanity?

Fuck It. Sideways.

[Sequin1]

Morning

Looks like it is going to be a nice day, back to Nursery for DS this week.

Good luck to those with appointment today hawthers and Cool. Hawthers would 2nd LMF about a dietician. We got DS referred as his milk intake really went down when we started weaning and all I kept hearing was "he needs to still be drinking 1 pint a day", well you cant bloody force them. Anyhow the dietician was really good, and most importantly knows every baby is different, they are not afraid to work around these guidelines and as long as LO is happy.

Figgy hope you get the ok for your part time hours. I am going to be going back to work when E is 6 months old, I was part-time (4 days) but will be requesting to go back for 3. Just starting to look at childcare options at the moment!

I tried E in DS's old bumbo yesterday, she is not far off another couple of weeks maybe - I do get excited when they are ready for a new piece of 'equipment'

Would be up for Facebook! Have a good day everyone

[aethelfleda]

Love the thread nanes LMF!
i'm up for a FB group though I will be may not be on there for a while as I'm thinking of giving myself a FB break. also FB id only good if enough of us go over, as it were: not everyone here wants/has an account?

((((hug))))) for hawthers. no matter what happens you are showing your love and care for f: lmf's advice about a pead/dietician review sounds v sensible. It's not anything you're doing: some babies are just slower to grow, good luck with the ishoos part of it, f is fine and loved that's v important.

mmmm, sounds like an entirely normal site for a lymph node (posterior auricular nodes live just behind ears and feel kind of soft/springy. Run your fingers round the back of babys hairline and you may find a similar one at the back. If in doubt GP to get it looked at (and reassured hopefully).

[OiMissus]

Hugs hawthers. I read your first post in the early hours and wanted to respond, but I had no idea what to say/advise. Luckily lmf has stepped in with great advice based on experience. Fantastic!
After the first 4 hours sleep, LO has woken every 2 hours. Grrrrrrrr.
BTW don't panic! The "earthquake" and after shock rumblings from the Bolton area were not seismic activity at all, just LOs massive farts. Sorry about any inconvenience caused.

[AnAirOfHope]

We DTD forgot protection was needed now and i'm hoping DH is not a one shoot wounder

We went to the Deep in Hull yeasterday it was nice children were great and Air liked it alot.

Now i have all the houswork to do

[AnAirOfHope]

Good luck today Hawters

[OiMissus]

Btw (2) FB is a good idea, but can't take the place of this thread - not really. There are some posters who want to keep their anonymity. Unlike me, I'm quite happy for you all to see photos of me drunk in various locations.