October 2011: our growing, rolling, sleeping (we hope) and growing more gorgeous by the day babies

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Our third thread!

He might be picking up on areas over him sleeping too iyswim. Perhaps try by to worry if he naps at all, go for walk, play at home and keep him close at all times. J (unlike her brothers) doesn't nap much at all but sleeps longer at night. If baby is tired it will sleep, hungry it will feed. Generally anyway

I have done that too mama - had to put her down and leave the room for a few minutes to compose myself. Usually before tears

I find myself wailing to DH 'But she's my third, I'm supposed to know what I'm doing by now' when we have a bad day - but they're all different!

cant sleep!

90 mins of play? do you mean you playing with c? making me feel as i never play with eva. i might have her on my lap facing out so she can watch twins or facing me so i can talk and smile at her, but thats it. and probably never for longer than 15mins.

do you think that maybe you have spent so long, either holding him, feeding him, playing with him etc, that he now hates to be alone?

thats not a criticism or a judgement, its just an observation and a general wondering.

Fleecy. I was told 3rd dc are the real little monkeys! So far the theory is true. Ds2 is finally coming around to her tho, yay!

fleecy ive said that to my dp too. eva does quite a few things that none of the other three have done. its like whatever you learn with one doesnt alway carry over with the next.

i had a down day a few days ago and took myself off to tesco. ( i think i posted at the time) i have days where im literally wanting to pour myself a drink and it might only be 11.30 am on a tues or something! i dont though, i hasten to add. i just reach for the choc or at least wait till a more decent hour for that drink. 5.30

fleecy ive said that to my dp too. eva does quite a few things that none of the other three have done. its like whatever you learn with one doesnt alway carry over with the next.

i had a down day a few days ago and took myself off to tesco. ( i think i posted at the time) i have days where im literally wanting to pour myself a drink and it might only be 11.30 am on a tues or something! i dont though, i hasten to add. i just reach for the choc or at least wait till a more decent hour for that drink. 5.30

S has 4 30min naps throughout day so I will say all baby's def are all different. There is no way she can be up from 8isj and last till afternoon without a nap. By 10.30am she starts yawning, gets grumpy etc so needs to have a nap. Would be lovely if she could have a few hrs at once but I know she won't last. After 2 hrs of being awake, she needs to nap again

Sch, I'm with you on finding some days really really hard and losing all sense of perspective. I remember from dd that it does get better!

Having said that, both children were asleep shortly after 8 and I think I'll join them. probably see some of you at 1 or 3 or possibly 5... at leats dd is in nursery tomorrow so only Alex to worry about,and in comparison he's a piece of cake!

sche so sorry your struggling
Is it possible that the 90mins of play is oversrimulating? I always put M down for a sleep before she starts crying/yawning etc so she never gets a chance to get overtired IYSWIM

Do you swaddle? Or use a dummy?

Like sassy I'm not criticising just hoping some of the ideas can help in some way. Hope you get some sleep tonight it's always easier to cope with a good nights sleep behind you. ((hugs))

you know what, i dont play for hours with the kids, spend a long time doing the housework or watching the telly. what the bloody hell do i actually do all day?!
i think the only things i watched today where 10 mins of doctors ( and no i dont watch it normally) and about 15 mins of becki from coronation street...... which i havent watched for years and years.
i did do the ironing, put a load of washing on and unload and load, and unload the dishwasher. i also made breakfasts, chloe's sandwiches, twins and my lunch. meatballs and pasta for tea and washed the pans that are to big to go in the dishwasher and brushed kitchen floor and thats it. didnt even go on here as i couldnt find the thing for 10 hours.
god, it must take all the other hours, to feed eva, change bums, get them dressed (which i did today) and say no, stop that, get down, thats not nice, dont push your sister, no biting, give mummy a kiss, what do you mean no!

Scheh really sorry to hear that you're having a bad time I think you've been given some great advice on here. This new baby stage is really over so quickly, soon you will look back and wonder where your little baby has gone. Time out (of the room for instance) when baby is screaming is an excellent suggestion.

sassy you don't mean all 3 are having their jabs in one day?

Sorry I have forgotten what everyone else said

DD2 took 3oz from DH this evening - first time this year - result!!

sassy lol at your post as know what you mean. Where on earth does the time go?! Right sleep for me as house is all snoring and sleeping phew.

Scheh ((hugs)) really hope I didn't come across as being all judgy pants etc. horrible hen they cry and cry and cry. Very demoralising . It's great though how everyone has offered their perspectives too. You are not alone xx

By play I just mean awake time that isn't feeding, on the mat/in the chair

The over stimulation thing is really hard. I know with dd freqently by the time she yawned it was too late and once she was over tired there was nothing you could do to fix it because anything - talking to her, singing, stroking, patting etc was just more stimulation. I just used to put her in her pram and leave her to it. Still do it now. She still howls when put in her pushchair for a nap but generally we only do it when she's so over done that whatever happens she'll cry hysterically.

Sorry, meant to put such as on the mat or in the chair. And yes, I've definitely gone wrong somewhere. But he cries when he's tired and I'm holding hik, he just doesn't want to sleep, then he gets overtired and he can't.

Really.appreciate all the suggestions. He refuses a dummy, kicks off swaddle.

Just need to start doing the same thing every day so he gets used to it.

scones yes, all 3 in one day. i went to the dentist once and she said i should have it done over 2 sessions, as i might find it hard/painful, but to me whats the point of having 2 days in pain when you can just have it over with. my mum will be there and its on a fri, so dp will be home an hour or two after. just best make sure i have calpol. dreading it though. not so much the twins as it is a booster, so they have already had it and no bad reaction. just feel so bad for eva as she is all little and brand new. and my baby!

It was a bit quiet on here overnight. Does this mean folk got a bit more sleep?

Managed to stuff a 30 minute feed into Alex at midnight and he's gone through to nearly 5 which is a result in my book.

Here's hoping for a better day today for us all.

Sche I don't think you've gone wrong at all; it just takes time to find a solution which works for your baby. The fact that you know several things that don't work suggests that you're doing everything right. It's hard when you're looking for the solution but don't blame yourself.

Fwiw, babies are awkward things and change so quickly that chances are, as soon as you figure out what works, he'll change and.develop and grow and need something different anyway. With dd she changed so much every month that I'd take 3 weeks to figure out how to deal with her and as soon as.I had success, she'd change.and I'd have to start again. As time went on I got quicker at adjusting to her needs but in the early days she and I were both learning and it felt relentless. It's much easier second time around... Especially on the days when I've had a 3hr chunk of sleep.

Scheh hope you got a good nights sleep, I think there's been loads of good advice from everyone on here, can't really add anything but will be taking lots of it myself as Elijah sounds like C.
I struggle to get him to sleep in the day (especially the last couple of days) the only way he'll sleep is on the boob, in car seat or pram when we go out. I'm just letting him do what he needs to do and trying to let him find his own routine but it is hard some days as I know he's exhausted but he just won't sleep!
He seems a but better this morning, managed to get him down by 9, then feed at 3 and again now so much better than night before.
Hope everyone's dc's are better today. Sassy gulp at taking the twins and Eva for their jabs.
supergirl welcome back!
I've got to see hv today as have really sore left nipple where I had blocked duct a week ago, it still has white bit on end and is so painful to feed, not sure what to do as its just not getting better

[scheh] hope your feeling a bit better. [sassy] very brave all 3 in one go!
Hope all the LOs who had their jabs are feeling ok now, we had a bit of a nightmare day yesterday because of it but I think the worst is over now (fingers crossed).

Morning, morning

Scheh - you have don't NOTHING wrong. No one tells you before you have a baby they are bloody hard work, have minds of their own and drive you to distraction. They tell you all the lovely bits but not the horrible ones so we are left to figure it all out by ourselves! I have quite a stressful job but it's like a holiday compared to looking after the kids, the days go by in a blur and some days it's just too much. And I can't go to the pub for lunch and have a ginormous bitch and a drink like I would if I was having a crappy day at work.

From what you've written there is nothing i would do differently. Fwiw I think you're doing a great job. Some babies just take a bit more time to click into it all (ds took 2 years to sleep through, TWO YEARS!!! ).

Where are you based?

On crappy sleep Edie woke up at 5 today wanting to play, try and put her back to sleep and we had full on tantrums (she is 4 months fgs!!) then ds has a upset tummy and has had constant dirty nappies from 6 o clock. Edie is now zonked on my lap and ds and I are watching shrek for the gazillionth time this week.

I've decided today that I'm going to get the girls into some sort of day time routine - that in my head means they will sleep between 11-1. I reckon I have 0 chance of it working but I'm going to try. It basically consists of them having a walk or car ride if we are going out for one hour so they bloody well sleep! I'm so done with the 5 minute power naps in people's arms and no proper sleep in the day.

Went to zumba last night, new teacher = inability to bend my legs this morning !!

umph. finally got to sleep at 1am. alarm goes off at 7am. eva woke up twice in that time for a feed and dd1 woke me up cos she had a nightmare. so im bogged eyed this morning.

Morning Ladies

P woke at 1am, 4.30am and whittered away to herself from about 5-6am. This wasn't bad, I prefer just the 4.30am wake and no whittering but it's still better than every 90 minutes so I know she can do it (bastard snot nose permitting).

Sassy you are mad . Good luck with that though :)

Welcome back Super

Lemmings has made the very true point about them changing all the time. As soon as P has started to sleep overnight better she is not as regular with her morning sleep when we are dog walking, even one slight change in something seems to affect something else with them. If she wants to sleep longer overnight but that means less in the day that's fine with me though

Until I have read what some of you have been saying since yesterday evening it never even ocurred to me to intentionally put P down in the daytime for sleeps, she does does whatever she does

Anyway, off swimming so enjoy your day :)

Thanks everyone :) he slept through till 6, I reckon he was exhausted ! Started taking meds again so feel destroyed. Hope everyone else got good nights.
We're in Derbyshire.

Well I took DS back to playgroup (for the 3rd time) on Monday and just like clockwork he has the cold by Wednesday I'm not going back! That's every single time we've been he picks up something! I'm now thinkin in trying a different mother and toddler group some of the people at this one have appalling hygiene and I aspect thats why so many illnesses

Was up twice last night with M 1.30 & 5.30 so not too bad except DS was up twice in between [yawn]

Burns supper tonight though already got soup made and housework done

i just nipped upstairs for the phone and dd1 has left her light on. so went up to turn it off- oh good god- its a pigsty! matches the rest of the house. this doing a room thing everyday isnt working out as well as i hoped. it can never be resolved until the house is completed and we get some wardrobes! i think thats the problem as washing and ironing can be done but where to frigging put it!

i need to start a new routine soon that includes me and eva. i have a loose one with the twins and it helped no end. but even though i know this, im not wanting to do it. im just a go with the flow kind of person. having routines is eyebrow raising to me. its one of those things that i envy in other people but just cba doing it really.
id rather pull my hair back in a bobble, have wild eyebrows, hairy legs and underarms and no make on, than have a set time where i have to do it. what's wrong with me?
i dont even watch any soaps or tv much, cos i cant stand to have to watch something at a set time every day or week. do you think its a being told what to do thing? its just occurred to me that may be it. wondering now if its to do with ex dp trying to control me. eek! damn these periods!