December 2011 - Worp speed 5 to sleeping and smiling

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FairyBayleaf DC1 EDD 6th Dec BORN 29th Sept Albert Elwyn 2lb 14oz
Tjuice DC2 EDD 21st November BORN 7th Nov Amaya Rose 3kg
Sevensevenseven DC2 EDD 20th Dec 25yo Southwold BORN 21st Nov Eva Rose 5lb 4oz
Girlwiththemouseyhair DC2 EDD 24th Nov Maggie Juliet BORN 25th Nov 8lb 9oz
YBR DC1 EDD 22nd Dec BORN 25th Nov (girl) 6lb 3.5oz
LittleBlueBoat(Cheeptrick) DC2 EDD 5th Dec 29yo S.Yorkshire BORN 26th Nov Hope Brynn Frances 8lb 9oz
Kri5ty DC1 EDD 13th Dec 26yo Manchester Boy BORN 29th Nov Saul Harrison 6lb 13oz
LauraSmurf DC1 EDD 3rd December Girl BORN 30th Nov
BeeMyBaby DC2 EDD 29th November 25yo Scotland BORN 1st Dec Safia Hawwa 7lb6oz
SoTiredOfTheWheelsOnTheBus DC2 EDD 7th December BORN 1st December Boy 8lbs5oz
Iggly DC2 EDD 2nd December South London BORN 2nd Dec (Girl) 8lb 1oz
Girlsyearapart DC4 EDD 6th December BORN 3rd Dec (Boy) 7lb 7oz
HoneyLovesCake DC1 EDD 2nd December Cornwall BORN 6th Dec Rocco Kaleb 8lb 14oz
Mmmmcheese DC2 EDD 25th December 32yo BORN 7th Dec (Girl) 7lb8oz
Itsybitsy08 DC2 EDD 6th December Boy BORN 9th Dec Kieran 8lb4oz
Msbuggywinkle DC3 EDD 13th December 27yo BORN 10th Dec Miranda 8lb6oz
OiMissus DC1 2 December, 39yo, Horwich, Bolton BORN 10th Dec (Boy) Alistair Jude 9lbs
jigglebum BORN 11 Dec Freya 7lbs
Pludophtherednosedreindeer (plupervert): DC2 EDD Dec 10 (Kent) BORN 12 Dec Helena 8lb 6oz (3.8kg)
NorthernChinchilla- EDD 19th December, BORN 12th Dec, Boy, 7lb 7oz
Jomouse DC1 EDD 2nd December 35yo London BORN 14 Dec (Girl) 5lb 8oz
Tyelperion DC1 EDD 3rd December 27yo Windsor BORN 14 Dec (boy) 9lb 8oz
KateM77: DC2 EDD Dec 10 34yo BORN 16 Dec Daniel James 8lb 6oz
BennyBenBear DC1 EDD 5th December Manchester/Bolton BORN 18 Dec Oliver Stephen Bolton 8lb 9oz
Kiteflying DC2 EDD 7 December 44yo Australia BORN 18 December (Girl) Lulu 8lb 14 oz
mopsytop DC1 EDD 25th December BORN 19 Dec 6lbs 11oz
AWomanCalledHorse DC1 EDD 22nd December BORN 21st December 7lbs 6oz (Boy)
Figgygal DC1 EDD 12 December 30yo Bath BORN 22 Dec Daniel James McMillan 9lb 4oz
Kitty5824 DC1 EDD 21st December 33 yo Manchester - Don't know BORN 23rd Dec, Boy, 7lb 14oz, Sebastian John
Aethelfleda DC3 EDD 27th December London BORN 3rd January, Albert Thomas William 8lb 10 oz
hawthers DC2 EDD 22nd December London 33yo BORN 28 December 7lb 4oz (boy)
LittleMissFlustered DC3 31st December BORN 6 Jan (boy)
hopeful1 BORN 6 Jan Noa Francie Kate 10lb 3oz
MissRee BORN 12 Jan 12 Freya Violet 7lb 7oz

air I think vaccinations have been at 2 months for a while (DD1 is almost 2 and she started hers at two months old), and then at 3 & 4 months also. As I'm such a kind mother (ha) Hawwa is getting an an extra vaccination (BCG) on Thursday, as Algeria is just over the threshold for it free on the NHS of about 1 TB case in 40,000. I would say its also in my eyes, the worst vaccination as DD1 had the scab for weeks and it ended up slightly pussy etc so involved a lot more care than the normal jabs.

Following advice - I think from sorelip - I changed the password for the photobook/snapfish account and have sent a message to everyone listed on the stats thread inviting you to post a pic. :)
vaccinations... must remember to send a change of address note to the docs... they wouldn't do it over the phone. Grrrr! Don't they realise how difficult it is getting out of the house with a baby?!

msb sorry you're dreading the HV, I'm really looking forward to 'officially' starting HE in September but I get annoyed now with the "doesn't he go to preschool" comments.

oi no advice but it sounds like a bit of an awkward situation.

Eva is so much happier on her new formula, I honestly can't believe the difference. It makes me feel awful though knowing that all of the crying was because she had a tummy ache :(. DS was such a chilled baby though that I had no idea how much crying was normal.

We started her bedtime routine last night, we hadn't bothered before as there was no point when we couldn't put her down for more than 10 minutes. I've got to put them both to bed myself tonight as DH is working a split shift today.

Possibly tmi but for anyone that wants to know Eva is 8 weeks tomorrow and I've just started my period.

oi 10 minutes a side (or any other arbitrary time) won't work for most women, everyone's breasts are different, everyone's babies are different. Generally, feed him one the first side until he comes off on his own, then swap him over. He may have the second side or may not, or may just have a few sucks so the next time he asks for milk you start on the side you offered second. If you forget, I recommend the boob 'heft and jiggle' to feel which one you fed from last!

Thank you all for being nice to me about HV...I have weird anxiety related to health professionals being in my house (long story!) Great that my plan sounds sensible though, I'm going to phrase it as 'well, I'm planning on going to the Surestart stay and play anyway, so it is easier for me to do the clinic that runs alongside it'

seven ikwym! It drives me mad having to explain my educational choices everywhere we go, happily now DD1 does most of the explaining for me. Her usual reply to 'no school today then?' is 'I'm home educated, it is fun because I get to stay with my Mum and my sisters and go to the museum'.

Having nice glass of Chablis while we wait for the lunch to finish cooking...I'm continuing my River Cottage Veg themed week and we're having three root boulangere. It smells good!

We're spag-bolling this evening. My logic that it's not labour intensive whole still being nutritious.

I have managed to feed the washer and tumbler today. If I can, I'm going to attack the dishes later.

msb i know people dont mean to be irritating but i get very defensive. What I find odd is that people are always really surprised when I say he doesn't go to nursery despite me being a sahm. Like I should be desperate to get rid of him.

We're having spag bol too. I need to feed the washing machine too, Eva keeps being sick today, we've got through four bibs, two muslins and one of my jumpers already!

Thanks msb - that's what I've been doing - especially the heft n jiggle technique. :)
We are also spag bolling ce soir! How odd! We haven't had it for Ages (capital A) and DH was dreaming about it.
Now we're off to tesco en famille. :)

Talking about les familles, and periods, i read somewhere about waiting 18 months after a cs before getting pregnant again. I'll ask at the 6wk check, but was thinking about not bothering with contraception and see what happens...

Having stock phrases is the way to go seven, I know my selection stop me sounding growly, which I would, as we get a lot of it...I've had three people question me on one bus ride before now.

Wow Oi you're braver than me with the wanting more already

Oi although its just mumsnet I'm sure I've read on a few threads that doctors don't like doing sections closer than 12 months, so you'd in theory only have to wait until Alistair is 3 or 4 months old before getting pregnant again.

Does the section advice not vary according to patient? I'd assume a straightforward procedure and a scar that healed well would be 'good to go' sooner than a more complicated one?

oi, it's usual to reccomend a nine month gap before TTC (So a total length of 18 months minimum) simply because the scar on the womb becomes stronger and less likely to give way during the next labour. This is especially important if you were wanting to try for a vaginal birth (VBAC) next time. Having said that, if you were to get pregnant sooner, they wouldnt refuse another caesarian, it's just you're maling your risks higher.

Oh, and if you are going to "see what happens" at some point, do start taking cheap-as-chips-supermarket-90p-a-packet folic acid the month before you start waiting-and-seeing: baby needs it before you know you are pregnant again. I had a friend with a 15 month age gap and she found it quite tough as they were both so dependant, but if you're up to it then all power to you!

lmf, very sensible stuff. I should really do some more housework but DS is warm, snuggly and sleeping on my lap and I'm enjoying it too much :)

I've abandoned the older two to a film and snacks, octopus boy has fed and is asleep and I'm horizontal and barely conscious. Weekends are tiring!

Oooh, little man so likes his sling. He falls asleep almost instantly, although with his neck at the oddest angle. OH is rather impressed, although I got into a bit of a strop at first as my initial go at tying it was rather crap.
Have just munched a bacon buttie over his head, trying to get as few crumbs on him as possible cos it often looks like he's got dandruff.

air- everyone's always said to me you don't know your LO can do something until they actually do it...which is generally 'hurl themselves off the sofa' 'grab something and start choking on it'! They just like to lull us into a false sense of security...

I had exactly that mmmm, DS really didn't like the anti-bs, and I think that the week of him being really unsettled with them has gone end to end with a growth spurt . DS did calm down as soon as the anti-bs were finished though.

DS also used to scream with nappy changes, but now lying on the mat is one of his favourite 'calm' places, at least for 20 mins or so- very odd!

That's really unfortunate Oi, I can feel your discomfort...

We're having pizza for dinner- I generally allow weekends to be more of a lard fest here. Might go off and have a little glass of wine, since msb has piqued my interest, not that it takes much mind !

TMI alert

DH and i talked about how meny children we wanted and I thought we would stop at two as i feel its all good. So i decided to get sniped DH said no he would as its a better op for him to do. So i though all sorted.

Last night i jokingly said to DH "Its nice with them both asleep, she looks so happy and time is going by so fast - lets have another" and he said "Not just yet wait til we move" = wrong answer. How can i ask someone to change their body if he is not sure if he wants more children or not I wanted him to say he was happy with the two we have!

Back at square one now.

We managed some sleep last night...we decided to go onto the Hungry Baby milk & it's really helped so far, he's now sleeping in 2-4 hour blocks & slightly less inconsolable! YAY!!!!!!!!!

Northen! Excellent parenting, LO here got covered in Pretzel dust yesterday night..well he would fall asleep on me whilst i was snacking
I also managed to drop the tv remote on him when I was passing it to DH, he didn't mind/no harm done!

Good luck with ttc Oi! DH & I have decided to start trying next week (instead of mid-feb, I had MMR jab in hospital so advice is to wait a month before ttc). Hope Alistair is feeling less grunty soon. x

Hello all - sorry for long silence but no good news over here - I'm in hospital w a burst appendix posted a thread in BF for advice, more info over there. Will write more later as they want to move the cannulas around now. Worst luck ever.

mopsy if DD's grunting and squirming seems to be "powering down" I let her get on with it and she usually falls asleep, but if she sounds as if she's "ramping up" I pick her up and wind her a bit more. Not always easy to tell which shez4 doing though! Sorry I know that's not very helpful!

I am feeling a bit grumpy today from lack of sleep. Just had a swig of Baileys out of the fridge to cheer me up and now feel sick. Probably not the best move when taking antibiotics.

I feel bad that I'm not giving DS enough stimulation at the moment. Feel like a bad mummy but its so hard juggling two.

We don't want any more DCs but vasectomy etc still a big decision. DH was all for it but then I said what happens if I and the DCs all die and you meet someone else and want to start a family? I know its so unlikely but I would want him to have that option!

Need to think about contraception before my 6 week check on Tuesday. Have heard bad things about mini-pill, hate condoms and don't want the IUD as I have an irritable uterus. I guess that leaves injection or implants, need to so some research. Having said that I'm not ready for DH to come near me yet! Barely have the energy to get up off the sofa let alone anything else. Sore nipples don't help either!

We're having roast gammon and potato salad tonight if I manage to get off the sofa and put it in the oven. If I don't we might be having scrambled eggs!

Tyel so sorry! Weirdly, I was in hospital on Christmas Day with suspected appendicits but the pain went away again. Will check out your other thread. Hope you are on the mend soon!

Heh! A little bit of grubby never hurt- mind you, LO is getting a bath today, as he's a bit smelly. Can't say we've really bothered much since he was born, but accumulated dribblings, and a tendency for his head to end up in my armpit when we sleep means we really should !

Wow, just...wow at people thinking about ttc. You are far braver women than I... or just more rampant .

Oh no tyel! Great to hear from you but what rotten luck. I had appendicitis when DD2 was six months old and was just stopping BFing at the time so had sore boobs as I didn't want to BF. is baby in with you? Really hope things settle and you are op'd and home very soon. Do come on here to vent/chat if you get bored, there's usually some of us on here all hours!

AWCH: ttc already?!?! Wow, go for it....

mmmcheese: if you're looking for fit-and-forget contraception then the implant can be a good choice as its v reliable, lasts 3 years, and has lower hormone levels than the injections so less likely to give you increased appetite/weight gain than injections. What makes you leery of the mini-pill by the way? There is a newer one that can be more suitable especially if you weigh over 70kg (its called Cerazette, and has a 12 hour window if you forget a pill rather than the 3 hour window with the older minipills. And its safe for breastfeeding).

Octopus boy is a cerazette baby >_<

Tyel I'd been wondering how you are, and am sorry it's not well. Will pootle over to your other thread and catch up.

As for kids. I'm done. I want sterilising. Going to bring it up at my six week check and get the wheels put in motion.

Thanks for your comment Northern, it was worrying me that I couldn't say "yes she's worth it" with the enthusiasm obviously expected. It's not that she's not IYSWIM, just that it's not a question I want to ask. It happened, I'm healing. Who would want to suffer trauma to have a child if they knew it must happen?

Hmm.. have cerazette lined up. The Dr tried to talk about other options but I won't take anything internal and don't want the injection (you can't reverse it if you have horrid side-effects). He asked if I was reliable about taking the tablets, I replied that I'd face the consequences if I was not!

On other news, BabyYBR managed to bring up what looked like her entire feed last night, then wanted to wolf down plenty more. I think I may have to prevent her from feeding so quickly ... somehow!

Great to hear from you tyel, not great to hear about your appendix. Hope you are all fixed and fit again soon.
Air are you sure your DH gave the wrong answer? He didn't know you were testing him when you expressed desire for another DC. It probably came as a surprise given the earlier conversation. He probably said "let'swait" to give you time to change your mind and not hurt your feelings. Sounds like he was treading carefully andbperhaps giving the right answer to me. Hope so.