December 2011 - Worp speed 5 to sleeping and smiling

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FairyBayleaf DC1 EDD 6th Dec BORN 29th Sept Albert Elwyn 2lb 14oz
Tjuice DC2 EDD 21st November BORN 7th Nov Amaya Rose 3kg
Sevensevenseven DC2 EDD 20th Dec 25yo Southwold BORN 21st Nov Eva Rose 5lb 4oz
Girlwiththemouseyhair DC2 EDD 24th Nov Maggie Juliet BORN 25th Nov 8lb 9oz
YBR DC1 EDD 22nd Dec BORN 25th Nov (girl) 6lb 3.5oz
LittleBlueBoat(Cheeptrick) DC2 EDD 5th Dec 29yo S.Yorkshire BORN 26th Nov Hope Brynn Frances 8lb 9oz
Kri5ty DC1 EDD 13th Dec 26yo Manchester Boy BORN 29th Nov Saul Harrison 6lb 13oz
LauraSmurf DC1 EDD 3rd December Girl BORN 30th Nov
BeeMyBaby DC2 EDD 29th November 25yo Scotland BORN 1st Dec Safia Hawwa 7lb6oz
SoTiredOfTheWheelsOnTheBus DC2 EDD 7th December BORN 1st December Boy 8lbs5oz
Iggly DC2 EDD 2nd December South London BORN 2nd Dec (Girl) 8lb 1oz
Girlsyearapart DC4 EDD 6th December BORN 3rd Dec (Boy) 7lb 7oz
HoneyLovesCake DC1 EDD 2nd December Cornwall BORN 6th Dec Rocco Kaleb 8lb 14oz
Mmmmcheese DC2 EDD 25th December 32yo BORN 7th Dec (Girl) 7lb8oz
Itsybitsy08 DC2 EDD 6th December Boy BORN 9th Dec Kieran 8lb4oz
Msbuggywinkle DC3 EDD 13th December 27yo BORN 10th Dec Miranda 8lb6oz
OiMissus DC1 2 December, 39yo, Horwich, Bolton BORN 10th Dec (Boy) Alistair Jude 9lbs
jigglebum BORN 11 Dec Freya 7lbs
Pludophtherednosedreindeer (plupervert): DC2 EDD Dec 10 (Kent) BORN 12 Dec Helena 8lb 6oz (3.8kg)
NorthernChinchilla- EDD 19th December, BORN 12th Dec, Boy, 7lb 7oz
Jomouse DC1 EDD 2nd December 35yo London BORN 14 Dec (Girl) 5lb 8oz
Tyelperion DC1 EDD 3rd December 27yo Windsor BORN 14 Dec (boy) 9lb 8oz
KateM77: DC2 EDD Dec 10 34yo BORN 16 Dec Daniel James 8lb 6oz
BennyBenBear DC1 EDD 5th December Manchester/Bolton BORN 18 Dec Oliver Stephen Bolton 8lb 9oz
Kiteflying DC2 EDD 7 December 44yo Australia BORN 18 December (Girl) Lulu 8lb 14 oz
mopsytop DC1 EDD 25th December BORN 19 Dec 6lbs 11oz
AWomanCalledHorse DC1 EDD 22nd December BORN 21st December 7lbs 6oz (Boy)
Figgygal DC1 EDD 12 December 30yo Bath BORN 22 Dec Daniel James McMillan 9lb 4oz
Kitty5824 DC1 EDD 21st December 33 yo Manchester - Don't know BORN 23rd Dec, Boy, 7lb 14oz, Sebastian John
Aethelfleda DC3 EDD 27th December London BORN 3rd January, Albert Thomas William 8lb 10 oz
hawthers DC2 EDD 22nd December London 33yo BORN 28 December 7lb 4oz (boy)
LittleMissFlustered DC3 31st December BORN 6 Jan (boy)
hopeful1 BORN 6 Jan Noa Francie Kate 10lb 3oz
MissRee BORN 12 Jan 12 Freya Violet 7lb 7oz

LMF I thought you were perhaps keeping the name secret as perhaps you didn't wanted to be outed (as an MNer in RL by someone you know may just click on this thread) or some such...
Do they think Edward has an umbilical hernia? DD1 has this and it gives her no end of joy squishing it back in (gives me the hibyjeebys as you can feel it 'pop' back in).

DD always sleeps in her sling so I'm also now restricting its use in the day seven. She isn't really awake very much out of the day anyway, I seem to have a very sleepy baby. There couldn't be anything wrong with her could there? When she is awake she is wide eyed and alert. She also doesn't "chatter" much, she makes lots of squeaky grunting noises when she's asleep but no noise when she's awake. Again there's no problem with that is there? I should know second time around but having a worry about everything day today!

Although just met DH for a pizza lunch as he's working near home today and now sitting in the restaurant with a paper, hot chocolate and feeding DD. I always feel better out and about than on the sofa in front of the TV!

Mine is the exact same Mmm, so if there is sth wrong with yours, then there is with mine!

Eva is the same, she's having an exceptionally sleepy day today. She had a feed at 7 and stayed awake until 9, but has been asleep since other than having a very sleepy feed at 11.30.

hmm i am very jealous of everyones talking/ smiling babies
Saul doesn't get a chance to talk, he just crys/ screams as soon as he is awake!!

what slings are good i may try that

Look for a local sling meet. I'm going to one next week to try some out as I'd like one for the school journey but have no idea where to start >_

wow i have never heard of one!! I'm off to google!

I've bought an ergo sling which was recommended to me. So far it's been impressive and easy to get ds in and out of. He does tend to fall asleep in it but it's got this insert which you can then put the nipper down in and so far he's stayed asleep. We got it half rrp on eBay.

I really like my moby sling kri5ty, as recommended and used by several on here. Bar the car seat/pram when actually being used, it's the only place my LO will sleep during the day, and it allows me to post on MN do housework.

I think this group/thread has been so useful in demonstrating how, even at a few weeks old, all our babies are so different already. It's brilliant in many other ways, but I find it fascinating how individual they all are, and how none are 'textbook' (but all completely wonderful, obviously!)

I have a silent baby too mmmm- it startles me when he makes any noise when awake (other than crying), and I can't wait for him to start with the chatter. He does sometimes giggle in his sleep, and I wish he'd do it at other points!

Right, he's woken up- he goes from asleep to awake and yelling for food in seconds- and so must dash!

Arg, someone pass me a haddock for the midwife...

DS is, in the grand scheme of things, FINE. He wees, he poos, he settles adter feeds (which are demand feeds), he cluster freds, I get a four hour break most nights from 10pm-2am ish. He's not had jaindice, his nails have grown, he's got short periods of alertness. BUT he's still not back to his 8lb 10 birthweight...
Since being weighed 4 days ago (on diff scales) he's put 60g on ie two ounces. So not a showstopper but he is gaining.

Midwives response: "give him formula".
Me "Do I really need to?

< passes large, particularly smelly haddock >

You know, aethel, that your DS is fine- more than that, as you list, he's progressing well. He is feeding, pooing, weeing, sleeping and entirely content for a three week old baby. He's just not larding it on- big deal, it's not like he's lost 3lbs or he's in any way distressed.

You've been great advising us, and it's crap that this woman should knock your confidence. It's absolutely unwarranted and unnecessary.

Bugger to expressing, and bugger to giving him formula if you don't want to.

They should take a holistic view of the baby and the situation at home- as you rightly say, there are two other children to think of!- and just give encouragement and be happy with what you're doing and how he's progressing. I hope you feel happy and confident enough- and with the support of your OH I'm sure- to ignore this woman's (and I hesitate to use the word) 'advice'.

aethel aside from anything else, that amount of weight gain is fine for the period of time, you can't predict was he is going to do in the next three days, he might gain 4oz. You know that he is fine, you have experience and knowledge to back your feeling up.

Anyway, I have just averted a crisis by managing to get DD1 to blow the sweet out of her nose seconds before I was carting the lot of them off to the walk in centre...she feels very silly and sorry for herself. I am beyond happy that I don't have to expose us all to whatever lurgies are lurking in the waiting room!

I has found that certain midwives just don't like breast milk. Same with some health visitors. Nothing that can be said or illustrated will ver convince them otherwise. I had such a midwife in hospital, and they do make you feel two inches tall. Hold your ground aethel as you know you're both doing well.

I love te idea of fore and hind milk being the same. Has she never actually seen the difference? I'd have been tempted to flap a boob out and demonstrate the difference :o

Ugh aethel, not what you need! How much weight did she expect him to gain in 4 days? I hope you have the confidence to continue ad you have been. You know your baby best after all. When mine wasn't getting enough from the breast she would never settle and spent a lot of time crying. Yours sounds totally content! Go with your gut, it will be right I'm sure! Sorry your confidence has been knocked :( all the different advice from different people. It's all very difficult.

Aw, thanks guys, I really appreciate the support. If I thought that he needed supplementing I'd give formula like a shot: what annoyed me was the pushiness to treat the figures with calories for the sale of it and she was ignoring everything I said about whether he was well, and fixating on the scales.

I had all my expressing stuff on standby anyway, so when I got home I sterilised my hand pump: after feeding DS for 10 mins on left boob He fell asleep with the "full!" sign in both eyes. A quick pump got me 1/2 oz of creamy looking hindmilk but not a lot else, so I think he's emptying the boob PK. Took a bit off the right one to make it up to 2oz and it's in the fridge (might get DH to give it over the weekend) but I think I'm probably just going to wave my boobs at DS at every opportunity over the weekend and try to chill out about it. He's lovely and it just makes me cross that there are MWs out there stressing us about well babies. I'm sure they mean well, but...

Anyway, onward and upwards! New car getting picked up tomorrow! Bye bye savings and hello (gulp) MPV! At least it's only a 1.8 engine so won't burn too many dead dinosaurs...

Your son will love the travelling by dinosaur analogy when he's old enough to appreciate it If your girls are anything like my girl, they'll like it too:o

< climbs up through mountain of used tissues >

Well, sod me if LO hasn't just slept in his sling today, but after a feed and being settled (and using dummy) been put down and slept for an hour and a half in his moses- and is still there! This is the second time I've made a comment about him refusing to sleep in the moses, and the second time he's actually done so.

Must remember to post about never winning the lottery...

Now as long as he doesn't actually wake himself with the magnificently loud farts he's doing, all's good. I just hope that this won't stop him sleeping tonight- we've got to travel a fair way to go and visit OH's eldest sister and her, um, somewhat trying? children tomorrow, deepest joy.

Glad you're feeling OK aethel, and rightly so.

Oh am I too late to add another haddock in for the MW aethel?
and I'll add to it some virtual sumptuous Belgian choccies and champagne for the girls on this thread for their v wise and supportive responses!
I am celebrating today, I have been liberated from maternity pads! Hurrah!
And to celebrate I am going to have me some sex. I am.
But first, I'm gonna have me some Tesco's finest ruby red Malbec. Chin chin!
Have a lovely weekend! X

enjoy oi!! more like oo err missus!! I am jealous, but my delivery lef my pelvic floor in such a mess it is still going to be a while for that :( and as the time goes on, the more paranoid / nervous i am about it! its like being a teenager all over again!!

Ps she deserves more than a haddock aethel!!

pps (i realllly need to stop hitting enter! Dam phone keypad!)

hurrah msb!! out of interest what type of sweet was it?? and was she tempted to eat it hehe :o

Oi does Mr Oi know he's in danger?:o

aethel does that mean she hasn't signed you over to the HV? She sounds bonkers, he's gained weight so you're obviously doing something right.

Hope you're enjoying your sex oi :o

Yep, seven, I'm still under the madwives (I think until DS is back to birthweight as a minimum).

DS continues to be fine. I spoke with a lovely friend of mine who's an NcT breastfeeding counsellor, she reckons the thing that may be making the difference is DS's tongue-tie: while he's clearly happy, it could be making his feeding less efficient so that he just gets tired before he's had quite enough calories. She also suggested something called jack Newman's Breast Compression (he's a canadian paediatrician) which has online videos of babies drinking versus nibbling on boobs, so I'm going to check those out, stuff DS as full of milk as I can. If he's not gaining more by the next weigh in I will ask the other MW who's coming to do a home visit (!!!) Monday if she can refer us to the tongue-tie clinic. (if that is the problem then snipping it will lead to an improvement in the weight thing).

Wow, oi, you go for it!!

lmf, my two DDs are total tomboys already. Toy of today was a
Pirate flag tied to a cardboard tube. Cue two hours of them rushing around the house yelling "Har-harrrrrr!!!" at each other :)

I bought mother and baby magazine today because there's an article about post baby sex didn't learn anything new I must say. I am also terrified by the idea of recommencing "relations" after stitches and a graze but it's definitely on my mind now we 4 wks down the line. Romantic I know but i pretty much want to get the first time over with now.