Feb 2011: the one where the babies are destruction machines

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...or is that just mine?

ledkr I hadn't thought of the prof in a while now, but yes I do wonder about her. Needto is fine. I haven't asked her about the thread in a while as I don't want to nag . Think she just has a life is busy . I could take a sicky but I can't IYKWIM. If she's ill enough to take her to the Doc then I won't go to work as I will need to take her to the Doc. We shall see. She has been getting worse during the day, being funny at meal times and not sleeping and this afternoon crying and coughing most of the time

blizy that was good work getting an early day

Gosh, it's going to be hard work having to properly parent when Alice gets her own mind isn't it

Ah tad and ledkr I feel your pain, Sofia will be 7 in June and I used the phrase "because I told you so ....", "I'm not a waitress" and "don't speak to me in that tone ..." all in the space of 20 mins today

She is in a class of 25 and only 7 of them are girls all of us Mums have the same weary look on our faces sometimes. They were all at a school friends party on Fri night and appeared to spend the vast majority of time learning the words and making up actions to the Bruno Mars song "Girl I want to marry you" . For those old enough to remember apart from me its very reminiscent of the actions to Madonnas True Blue

american I never stress about getting them off bottles. The guidelines are for a year but I think S & O were still on a bedtime bottle at 18 months if not a bit later.

reastie Hope Alice feels better xx Chickenpox is running riot around both Sofias and Olivias schools at the minute

Hi all, just getting ready to watch programme on social workers so will be quick...

Tadj funnily A has been waking for a bottle at 5 too, what's that about?! Bizarre.

Sorry to hear about stroppy pre teens, I am not thinking about that now

Reastie good luck with work tomo and wed. Poor A, hope she gets better soon.

Going to do a short post so hi everyone else, sleep well babies! (including A )

american I've just remembered my sister had a bottle of milk to get her to sleep in the evening literally until she went to school I think (she was a monster child - my mum did whatever she could to survive ) so worry not

DH and I had a MASSIVE row earlier - I actually screamed shouted really loudly. It was about MIL. I swear we will end out divorced over her. DH did his usual 'you're always nagging' and usually I just take it or cry but this time I just lost it . There was alot of screaming and door banging and it was all in front of Alice. I feel like an awful parent as she really cried afterwards . Tbh it didn't even make me feel any better, if anything worse as DH usually loses it and I hold it together, I feel like I'm just turning in to him (which is not a good thing). Anyway, he went off in a huff for half an hour and came back as if nothing had happened . I feel so emotionally upset and fragile.

Anyway, Alice perked up after her calpol so hopefully that's a good sign

Oh reastie I'm so sorry to hear that, what a horrid thing to happen, I don't know what to say really, but thinking of you and sending you hugs.

It's not good that it happened in front of Alice, but if it's just a one off, she won't remember it, although I know you will.

I am utterly without words of wisdom tonight I'm afraid, but thinking of you.

Dx

reastie thats horrible, really feel for you :( Don't worry about Alice (in the nicest way possible) like delia said she won't remember it, don't feel guilty, it was a one off. I hate it when dp/dhs act all normal like nothing has happened after a row, I need to get 'closure' and think thats pretty healthy tbh, ignoring is nt. Hope you're ok and get to chat with dh about it. Have a hug x

social work programme was heartbreaking, saw ledkr on the other thread I was lurking on. Going to bed feeling a bit depressed now

D's right, reastie, Alice won't remember anything. Hope you and dh work it out and manage to lay your cards on the table without shouting at each other again. Good luck for tomorrow. Just concentrate on one thing at a time. x

Reastie- I hope you and Dh managed to sort things out last night. I agree with the others that Alice won't remember a thing.
How is Alice today? I hope she slept well.

Good luck with your inspection.

Think I might brave a walk round the loch to feed ducks after toddlers this morning. Hope you all have a good day.

Morning ladies,

reastie how is Alice this morning, and just as importantly, how are you?

Interesting american & wiggles about getting them off bottles. It hadn't occurred to me to even attempt it yet TBH. Am just changing C over to cow's milk now, and was thinking of replacing her afternoon bottle with a cup of milk, but TBH, I'm still not convinced she would have enough fluid overall if she had no bottles at all. She does drink from the cup, but nowhere near as much.

Well, C is doing OK at the moment, sleep seems to be going better (yay!), food has gone a bit AWOL tho, she's gone right off her morning porridge, which is a pain because it was easy to just shovel it in. She seems to be having a bit of a finger food bender at the mo, so was thinking of doing her toast with cheese spread, and some bits of fruit....does that sound like it would be balanced-ish? Don't want to obsess, but the easy thing about porridge and cereals is that you know they are 'fortified with vitamins & iron' etc. so more beneficial than just toast, but if I did toast+cheese+bread then would that be OK?

Typical that food is for fun until they're one, and now she's almost one, she's becoming a bit picky!

D

Morning!

Reastie how are things? Hope you're ok.

Delia I am having exactly the same confusion about bottles too. And A has gone off her porridge too, I think toast and fruit sounds fine for her brekkie!

What is this about mixing formula and cows milk?! I had no idea A doesn't drink much from a beaker either so im worried about her getting dehydrated.

Blizy enjoy your day, sounds v nice!

Oh and A was awake at 4.30am, I was prepared to get a bottle ready for her but amazingly she went back to sleep til 6.30 relief!

reastie hope you cleared the air with dh.

ledkr hooe Dilly is feeling better.

Hope the inspections go well.

I know that J had a bottle for his cows milk for ages prob nearly 2. The teat split eventually and that was that. I think the main concern about the bottles after one is for their teeth, but if they just drink the bottle full and finish it is ok iykwim. I think the problem is when they walk around with the teat in their mouths for prolonged periods squirting milk around the teeth. I just swoped my three straight from formula to cows milk when the formula tub ran out around their first birthday. They never even noticed the change. Prob going to carry on bfing A for a bit longer and introduce a beaker of cows milk when he is better.

Archie looks like a pizza, they are starting to crust over and this morning he has had a few cheeky moments, a wave and a peekaboo. So hopefully he is getting his mojo back. Imogen is laid on th sofa in her pjs, no spots yet but off her food and really clingy. I'm never at home during the day so it is strange but quite nice being housebound.......may change my tune in a couple more days of nursing poory babies.

Enjoy your walk blizy

Ponyo it's funny you very often seem to have the same issues/worries as me! re mixing milk, it's probably not necessary, but I'm just doing half and half formula & cow's milk for a week, in case she noticed a change in taste, but she probably wouldn't, am being neurotic [natch].

But yes am worried about overall fluid intake, especially since I can't even tell what she's actually imbibed from her beaker, because her favourite game at the moment is to fill her mouth, then dribble it quite deliberately all down her front like a waterfall, then giggle, so her pelibib ends up with an ocean in the bottom of it....yeuch!

D

Aww at pizza baby four4, hope the poorly ones get better soon. Hugs when they're ill is always nice (if you know what I mean) A is usually too wriggly to cuddle

Delia we do have the same concerns don't we, quite reassuring I think! I was nosying at your fb pics of C and she really does look similar to A in some of them, bit spooky maybe they have similar habits too...?!

Think I might try her on some cows milk in a beaker but will also try some in a bottle warm, have a feeling she'll turn her nose up at it but who knows, it's worth a try.

reastie - Obviously not ideal to be shouting around Alice but, like everyone has already said, it won't have scarred her for life. I hope your night wasn't too horrible.

Delia - if L is being picky, we tend to throw a variety of foods on his tray and let him eat what he wants. Sometimes he wants to be fed, others he wants to feed himself.

I'm not too bothered about the bottles myself but DH seems keen to get him off ASAP. The nursery manager seemed surprised that he was still having a bottle during the day (at 10 months ) when we registered him. He only has about 12oz from a bottle each day so not a massive amount. If I was still feeding him myself, I would probably continue so don't seen the point in rushing to get him off bottles completely. I think I'll speak to the nursery today when I collect him about stopping his daytime bottle.

It took me ages to post!

Ponyo - we just gave L cow's milk in a beaker one day (no mixing) and he drank it without a fuss. He'll also drink formula cold so I never bother to warm the bottle now (haven't done for months).

44me - sounds like A is on the mend? Hopefully Imogen kicks off soon (if she's going to get it, IYKWIM) and every one gets back to normal quickly.

L only has a bottle for a prolonged period at bedtime, but it's only a half hour or so and his teeth get brushed before bed. Speaking of tooth brushing, what type of toothpaste is everyone using? We've just been using a wet brush to get him used to it but now that I'm thinking about the milk on his teeth, we should probably use toothpaste. My friends seem to have gotten a free toothbrush and toothpaste from their health visitors but I've not seen mine since L was 4 months old. Of course I can't be bothered to phone her.

American we have had TWO lots of toothpaste from the hv and two toothbrushes A usually gets her teeth brushed in the morning, sometimes before bed but it depends on if she is falling asleep or not. She still only has 2 tiny teeth on the bottom though! Oh and she loved having her teeth brushed but I think it's because she likes the taste of the toothpaste

Hi all
First to Reastie, big hugs and hope your ok. Alice will not be damaged by you and dh shouting. I had a big row with dh on Sunday evening as he keeps losing his temper with Noah when he won't get changed after his bath and Noah didn't even react, he just carried on eating his Cheerios like a little piggy. Talking of men just acting like nothing has happened. After our row Sunday I made a point of ignoring dh,(immature I know) now i am speaking to him again he hasn't mentioned anything. Annoying!!

Regards the milk situation, when Noah had his 9/12 month check the other week my hv told me that as he is having cows milk on his cereal there was no need to gradually introduce it as a drink. The only reason they have formula or breastmlik until they are a year old is for the extra iron. Noah hasn't had bottles since before Xmas when he refused them during a sickness bug. We stopped Ben's bottles at about a year old when milk became a drink rather than food.

We were given a toothbrush and toothpaste by our hv at Noah's check. We only clean his teeth in the bath at night, he loves it and will sit chewing the brush for a while after. He does then eat his evening snack after but at this age I think its more about teaching him the habit of teeth cleaning rather than hygiene.

Four4, poor little pizza face. hope Imogen gets her illness over with quickly!

Wiggles your comment about Madonna dance routines took me back to my childhood when my friends and I would spend our school holidays out in the street making up dance routines to Madonna and Five Star!

Well, I am poorly girlies, still working but have several coldsores, a cold, headache and generally feeling poo. BUT I have lost 3.5 pounds so far on the SW diet and i only started last Wednesday! Woohoo. At this rate I;ll be able to get my bare legs out in the summer and frighten people!

Hope everyone is ok.

Is it regular toothpaste and not some special baby toothpaste? We're just getting him into the habit like Emski but he's got 8 teeth now (2 molars!) so thinking we should take it a bit more seriously.

Firstly, well done ems on the weight loss but to feeling bad

Secondly, ledkr how is inspection going your end?

Now then, American we use 'milk teeth' I think toothpaste and just our fingers to try and rub it on . Tbh Alice isn't v cooperative. This only wat I can get her to open her mouth is do it at the same time I clean my teeth and let alice 'help' me clean my teeth by shoving my toothbrush anywhere on my face but my mouth . She loves doing this [weirdo]

I think Alice may be teething not ill. She's never actually had teething before though. She has 3 teeth and her last tooth just popped through with no problem so I was hoping she was one of those children who didn't go through teething (didn't mention it on the thread incase you all hit me ). She seems to have an inflamed gum, is coughing, has running nose on and off, is chewing everything, cries when we give her solid food like it hurts her teeth and generally really really moany and crying a l l t h e t i m e. This sounds like teething, doesn't it????

My day at work was pretty dire. I think I was still upset about dh argument last night. I felt like the worst teacher alive and nearly burst into tears telling off a student . I know this sounds melodramatic but I nearly just went home at lunch as I couldn't take any more. I felt like I was about to crack and either throw breakable objects across the room or break down in the corner sobbing . I thought I was getting better, maybe not. Got hv next week anyway to chat. Inspector lady came in in my last lesson of the day and thank goodness it went well - well, I think it did, and the inspector made lots of gushing positive comments. If I wasn't 'excellent' (which I always used to get ) then I feel confident I would be at least 'good' . Just got to get through inspection day 2 tomorrow and then parents evening on my day off

Sorry your day wasn't o good Reastie. I think you def need to start your anti D's during your school break but remember you WILL feel worse before you feel better. Hope you get your 'excellent' mark. What a lot of pressure for you though. Yes, to Alice teething, definitely sounds like she's in a bit of pain.

Well, me and dh have just had another row.his stupid dad took my phone home by mistake, so I asked if his dad could drop it at friends work, 10 minutes from his house so friend can bring it home for me. Dh wants me to wait until tomorrow night so he can collect phone for me but that would mean me being on my own with the boys without a phone. Dh got really aggressive, and I ended up feeling unreasonable. Turns out his dad is happy to do as I asked.
Reading that back I do feel a bit daft but it's dh's reaction to things at the moment that are upsetting me, he's so angry all the time. I'm now not speaking to him again!

But on the plus side my boys are fantastic and scummy and delicious. And I'm a very lucky lady!

reastie sorry you had such a crappy day, at least the inspection seems to have gone well, fingers crossed. Sounds like Alice has been bitten by the teething bug

emski well done on your first week. Mr W has downloaded couch to 5k hope you feel better x

american Anna is a bit meh about getting her teeth brushed, she doesn't hate it but some days will just not have it at all. When she is actually teething she can't bear anything in her mouth and I'm afraid to incur her wrath

My friends baby (now 4 weeks) is very ill with bronchiolitis and has been admitted to the baby unit so have been up with her today bringing supplies etc. They've transferred them miles away because of the whole neo-natal/baby ward infection issue and she has a 3 year old and 20 month old as well so its a bit of a nightmare but they're settled for the night now - please send feel better vibes.

Reastie- I agree with Emski about the AD's. Sorry your day was rubbish and I hope Alice feels better soon.

Emski - sorry you and Dh are rowing, I don't think you were being unreasonable though. God forbid anything happen and you didn't have your phone!

The schools finish here tomorrow for half term, so I have no work until next Wednesday..

X post wiggles. I really hope your friends little one gets better soon, sending get well vibes from me. Your poor friend must be so worried and stressed.
I keep threatening to download the couch to 5k, deb is my (th)inspiration. Really need to do something about my weight.

Sending get better vibes to your friends baby Wiggles.

wiggles massive good health vibes to the little baby and hope the other children are all OK and your friend is coping as well as possible.

ems that would have really annoyed me too. Men can be so odd. Your DH sounds a bit like mine - does yours have an aggressive tone of voice? Whenever I ask DH not to talk to me so aggressively/like I'm a piece of dirt he wouldn't give the time of day he looks at me like I'm mad and making it up , but his tone can be so rude even if he doesn't mean it how it comes out [sigh]

Feel a little bit pleased with myself re: inspection now - emailed dept head about something entirely different and she just emailed back to say the inspector had good things to say about me . So despite how awful my morning was at least I managed to pull things together when it mattered. I think I do seriously need to consider ads don't I....I just really really don't want to take them.