Feb 2011: the one where the babies are destruction machines

[ChestnutsREASTIEingOnTheFire]

...or is that just mine?

[sniggers] at wiggs

at wiggles.

Delia- how are things?

The last of the rug rats have gone, god they were an awful lot today! . My time out spot was put to good use.

wiggles - I'm a bit to admit this, but you're kind of my parenting guru. You seem quite relaxed about everything with a good sense of humour. Your girls are lucky to have you as their mum. God, I feel a suck-up now.

Delia -

The same colleague was telling me how important discipline is when I was still pregnant. I did a massive eye roll at him as soon as I left but I started to wonder what everyone else was doing.

I've been saying 'no' and doing my infamous teacherish evil stare at alice when she does naughty things for ages - she usually just laughs and carries on with more gusto though - apparently if I disapprove it then becomes something even more exciting . american alice would have no concept of the naughty step at all - wayyyy to young yet.

to wiggles

blizy to awful mindees

Well, I'm seriously close to handing in my notice. DH keeps giving me looks about why can't I cope and that I'm making a fuss over nothing . He has said he would like to keep his afternoon off if i give up work and so I need to find an income to pay for that plus my gym membership - I'm looking into starting up an after school or week end cooking club for kiddies and teens and feel all butterflyish in a good way at starting up my own business. Still a long way to go but this is what I've always really wanted to do. Feels v scary though.

I didnt watch the social worker programme id rather watch crap Yes its a tough job sometimes but i love it really and cant imagine being stuck in an office or doing the same thing day in day out.
reastie Can you cut down at all?Im loving my 2 days(soon to be 3) and like you i earn decent enough money to work part time and still have a good income.Also as she gets older she will be soooo expensive,Ellas dance alone is 160 per term and then her exams are extra and also costume hire and uniform. I also like a decent holiday at least once a year and a few cheapies in between si do love the extra money.Is it teaching or the job you are in that is so crap or is it just leaving Alice? Also is it wise to make a big decision when you maybe suffering from pnd?? Just food for thought.
DISCIPLINE A BABY??? Is he fucking insane?? How do you put them on the naughty step Dilly would just walk up them calling "Ella". It quite abusive imho.
Ex knobhead husband and his chilld bride are "potty training" their 14 month old weirdos.
Had a vile morning,stupid Dh got up in his pjs and robe (Hugh fecking Hefner) and sat on the settee at 8.10 having a nice read
I have to leave at 8.30 and wouild like some time to eat,pack my lunch and out on some make up but no im rushing about after the children.Ella ended up cheeky so i lost the plot and stormed out really upset. Evry night i have come home and the kids arent fed at 5.30 so i end up helping him and cooking ours too. He seems to think he can still have anormal day off just with Dilly around.
I am going to leave at 8.00 from now on and get to work for 8.30 geta parking space and have a coffee before i start.That should spring him into life.
Stupid bloke.

Oh no ledkr that is so annoying about your dh - deffo leave earlier, I get to work for 8 and just drink cups of tea and eat breakfast, and I get a parking space too My dp has A on his own for the day in a couple of weeks when I'm at work, it will be 'interesting' for him bu then again I know I'm going to come home to a messy house and ton of washing up

I told dp last night that he needs to start doing more around the house, theres his stuff and clutter everywhere and yes he cooks nice food but never washes up after and uses every bloody pan there is

american wow at your colleague, I'm also in the saying 'no' camp but A does crawl and climb on everything and nothing wrong with that imho! I saw supernanny the other day and she was doing naughty step with a 2 year old, well 2 and a bit I think.

reastie this is easy for me to say as its not me giving up work but DO IT! Your cooking club sounds like such a good plan - can you cope with being skint and not having your wage for a while? (think ledkr has a good point re: pnd though)

deb I did cringe at "suctioned onto eyeball" eek! Good luck for weigh in, you'll be fine you running superstar!

at wiggles and the rennies!

Work was knackering today, was super busy, but I got nursery a bit early and spied on A eating her tea with all the other babies - aww it was so cute, she was sat in her little chair looking so serious and happily chewing away on cucumber and having spoonfuls of her tea inbetween. (Then I thought "why doesn't she do that at home, shes such a fusspot )

americanexpat many thanks, I just think "what would my Mum do" and do the opposite

ledkr and ponyo I leave for work 30 mins earlier too, I have a cup of tea, use my Kindle, listen to ipod etc before I start, its my saving grace of the week. Mr W does it as well.

reastie I'm glad you are almost at a decision making place, I saw you on the thread you started re notice period a few days ago, I didn't realize you were so upset, xx

We are watching the Office Season 6 and eating Dominios - life is good

When I get to work early I just get accosted by a million and one students telling me about how they've forgotten their homework/ingredients but they have a very bad good excuse and then teachers trying to (god forbid) chat - I just don't have the time .

ledkr I appreciate all you say and maybe the pnd is swaying it a tad but honestly it's just teacher stuff - so much to do outside hours and they always want more and I have to go in on my days off sometimes for things too. Just the stress of it all really. I'm going to talk to my HoD tomorrow in the first instance about requesting less lessons from september (so they'd have to get someone to job share with me). If they can't do that I'll leave. My useless supply is doing all these nice jobs that require minimal work for the hours in school that I have to turn down as I'm doing all the drudgery stuff - I'm finding that really annoying. I have been really upset about work situ but have kept a bit quiet on here as don't want to have another drama for you all to deal with . Thing is though, I know stopping work won't make life any easier as being at home with alice was always tough. My main reason for wanting to stop work (in addition to more time with alice not being all tired and stressed from work and finding work too much) is to have time to join the gym again and go a couple of times a week and get some proper me time (and hopefully start loosing the weight)

wiggles at your love fest time alone with mrw

wiggles - my mum loves to say, "Oh, with the next one, you'll

reastie You do what you need to do my love,i just like to play Devils advocate sometimes. I didnt do a serious job for a while,just picked up bits of cleaning and the odd night in a nursing home, i even sold Anne summers for a bit
DEB how did they put tweezers in the eye without scratcing it?
Have just been to baby singing,Dilly is so sweet now,joins in and laughs.
Meant to say she has woken the last 2 nights and did shouty crying.First night i ignored her last night i couldnt as it went on too long. Wish she'd just sleep.
wiggs Did dh pass his exmas in the end.Dh is doing them again in March,hope he passes this time.

Morning Febbers,

Well, it's not just me being made redundant, the chap in the US who owns the company pulled the plug yesterday, couldn't afford to keep on losing money, which is understandable. Whilst I wouldn't wish this on any of my colleagues, I kind of feel a little 'lighter' that it's not just me, I don't have to try and justify my existence etc.

Have three interviews lined up, two are for two divisions of the same company that I don't really want to work for (have worked there before), the other (Friday) is one that I really do want. So fingers crossed for that one. We all went out for lunch and a few drinks yesterday to lift the mood a bit, used our lottery syndicate winnings, which meant it didn't cost anything!

reastie sorry the work situ hasn't improved. IIRC you have to hand in your notice at easter?? Or are you thinking of doing it earlier? I keep typing loads of thoughts on this and then deleting because I don't want it to come across the wrong way, but I suppose what I mean is, Ledkr makes a good point about PND and decision-making. If you're sure this is what you want, and it still would be if you didn't have PND, then do it and don't look back. If you think PND is affecting your decision, then maybe give it a few more weeks. I think you deserve a break, so stopping work would be a good thing, but I also worry that you might stop work, and not feel that much better, if the underlying thing is the PND, IYSWIM? Sorry, that's woolly and confusing and not at all constructive, but I hope you don't take it as being interfering .

Ponyo I always quite like secretly watching C when she doesn't know I'm there, like after I leave my Mum's and she's in her high chair eating toast, or when I leave her at nursery and she just starts playing etc. It's nice to see she's OK without me, in a weird way.

Off to make an inventory of office stuff we need to dispose of....closing a company down is a big job!

Dx

ledkr he was doing CID entrance exams and failed them but so did a lot of people and it was a narrow fail so they offered him a placement for 3 months but it was due to start the week he was ill so its a bit up in the air. He wnats to sit Sargeants exams asap but his work have put a stop to any promotion, exams at the minute - Budget cuts

americanexpat I don't stress about As sleeping - I did my stressing with Olivia and it didn't help! I think a totally mind numbing job helps , doesn't matter if you're tired and Sofia and Olivia can basically amuse themselves now.

Olivia was such a poor sleeper but after the first 18 months little things improved every month with her and the past two years of Olivias life from 2-4 years have gone in the blink of an eye so I know eventually they'll sleep. I know not much help at the time.

I also feel really lucky to have the girls, without getting bleurgy, they seriously are the best thing I've ever done and they're great girls - funny, kind, too smart so what's a little lost sleep and I know I'll be losing a lot more sleep with them the older they get

D xxxx, my Dads been in that position a few times, it is easier if its all of you go, you know its not personal then. Fingers crossed for Friday interview.

Delia - stressful situation for you all at work but at least you can all support each other now.

Reastie, do you want re work but be sure its what you want. I found it hard, and still do find it hard when I am feeling a bit low that I now have to face people at work and continue my life whereas when I'm home with the boys I can hide away, but that isn't always such a good thing. I would love to be at home with my babies but would definitely need to have a hobbie or something for me, which sounds like your cookery classes could be. Ledkr is right though, don't let the PND influence your decision.

Wiggles, sometimes I look at my boys, or look at photos of them when their in bed and well up. I just think I'm so lucky to have two such beautiful, sweet, kind boys. Tho Noah did bite my shoulder last night, so for a few seconds he wasn't my sweet baby anymore! He's really tryingg to make people laugh now, which is fab, and he gave Ben a huge proper hug when we got home last night, I didn't get one tho!!

Deb, I am officially becoming a SW member as of this weekend. You have inspired me, tho I;m still not exercising! I bought the welcome pack from Ebay a while back so looked through it last night and this morning I had an egg and some beans for brekkie - yum! Just had a small potato, beans and a cheese triangle for lunch and am stuffed! Looking forward to this if I get to fill so full all the time! I'm going to go for my first weigh in at 9.30 on Saturday morning! Oh, and glad S eye is ok, ouch to large tweezers!

Hope the rest of y'all are ok.

delia you sound relieved about it, I always find not knowing the worst part. Best of every luck for the interview on Friday, be brilliant :)

reastie have you ever really enjoyed your job?

ledkr I hope Dilly sleeps soon, I really do :(

Apparently the eye is a lot more robust than we think, and a scratch is better than something stuck in there permanently! She's got antibiotic eye drops just in case but her eye is fine now.

Did I tell you my mum and dad have booked us a holiday next week at Center Parcs? The Longleat one. My dad thought we needed a break!! Tres excited, Imy will love the swimming and apparently there's a little train as well. We go Mon-Fri.

x post ems

Welcome to the sw club!! If you're doing EE, you must make sure you have 1/3 superfree (ie most fruit and veg) with every meal (potatoes and beans aren't superfree). So with your breakfast have some fruit as well, with your lunch maybe some mushrooms and tomatoes or a salad. This is the key to it working well for you. If you want to joing a thread on here that has a weekly weigh in and is nice and busy and encouraging, I'm on the Day of Doom thread on the big/slim whatever weight loss club board.

deb Im alright then cos my big cheese toastie i just ate had some onion in it Im mostly being good especially at work wher i just take a salad and some fruit i have lost some weight without really trying but have been walking lots and also shredding.Ive downloaded c25k but think ill shred today as im bloody freezing.

ledkr the weight will drop off you if you put some onion in your greasy cheese toastie every day. Also add plenty of ketchup to your chips.

I'm out running tonight, so long as it's not too icy...

deb I like your SW thinking . at you being given a free holiday

wiggles how annoying re: mrw's post in the CIA CSI CID

delia good good good luck for friday, and a bit more good luck

My Mum has got an obsession with how musical she wants alice to be alice is. My Mum and Dad are both quite musical and every time she sees Alice she comments on something about how musical and talented she must be. Today she's obviously a natural musician as she bounces up and down to music like most babies seem to and had fun bashing the piano in a very inherently talented way' nod and smile, nod and smile

Thank you for your work questions/comments. I honestly don't think it's that much pnd thinking at all, it's just it's [work] taking over my life too much. Like I said, if it was a job where I did my hours and came home and that was that I would find it great. But it isn't. For the record I used to love my job. Would spend days wondering how it was that I could get paid for doing something so great, but that was when I had the nice extra stuff to do (which my old supply steals now) and I had alot of spare time to plan everything properly - I used to work 3 days a week (spread over 4) and go to the gym most days in normal work hours and do loads of work on my day off for the love of it [saddo] . I was an employers dream . I've just lost my motivation now my priorities are different and despite doing bare minimum I can't do everything and am getting fed up with everyone trying to get me to do more stuff when I can't manage what I'm doing - today I spent my entire break with the bleeding languages teacher trying to go over details for her to run a cake stall from my room and use my equipment and then half an hour after school doing emails about it to the head (health and safety stuff) - I just want to be rude to everyone and tell them to bog off I don't have time and don't care but don't think that would go down too well

Btw ledkr is anyone I 'know' would have been an ann summers rep my money would have been on you

Ohhh I think my baby is poorly :( She was clingy with her keyworker all day at nursery and hasn't eaten much, plus has been producing some yuk nappies (teething?). When I got her home she just cried and wanted to be held then fell asleep, we have put her to bed with no bath and she's gone right to sleep despite the sleep earlier, have a feeling it could be a restless night though. Poor little thing.

Anyway, reastie at musical Alice, my dad seems to think A is amazingly bright and super clever for her age, I mean I'm sure she is but I nod and smile too. Fair enough about work, what you said makes sense and you know what is best for you, follow your instinct I say.

deb Centre Parks sounds great! I really want to go when A is older, it looks lovely. Did you run tonight? I bought myself a sports bra today, I have some trainers, now I just need to actually go outside and run

delia good luck for Fri, bet you'll be fab. My mum works for a company that is currently being shut down too, she said its a lot of work too but I have told her she has to come visit me tomorrow as A misses her!

wiggles aww to you and your girls, lovely. You are amazingly 'zen' about the whole sleep thing, I get grumpy after one bad night

Got to go as dp is talking to me

Deb, ooh centre parcs!? You'll be in my neck of the woods then. Try to go to Longleat, it's quite expensive but fantastic! Altho I expect you'll have plenty to do all week. Am well jel, altho we have booked our long weekend to EuroDisney in May! Woohoo! Is it sad that I'm sooooooo excited?!! Thanx for SW tips. I'm off shopping tomorrow to get in more fruit and vegetables.

Uh oh ponyo I hope Anya is ok?

debka I am jelous of your holiday! I hope you dh and the girls have a fantastic time.

reastie If quiting work will make you happy, I say go for it. The cookery classes at weekends sounds like a fantastic idea. How are you really feeling PND wise these days?
Of course Alice is a musical genious .

delia I will have my fingers crossed for you on Friday, I wish you the best of luck.

We haven't heard from 40weeks in a while, hope she is ok.

Yet another rotten day with mindees, all they done was fight. I wonder if they are picking up on my anxiety? I can't believe we are already in February. This year has gone by so very quickly. I can't believe I should have an almost one year old daughter.

blizy my girls are fighting a lot as well, think its the weather and the fact that the Winter seems very long, it has been wet here for weeks! This year has flown in, I haven't seen it all, although when I think of certain things that happened like As christening it seems donkeys ago.

ponyo Hope Anya can sleep it off x

debka how lovely I have a pang of envy when I hear any of you heading to Centre Parcs etc - we don't have them here so they have taken on an edge of mystery

Emski my parents are taking S&O to Euro Disney next year, my dad is beside himself with excitement

I had a very exciting day today - defrosted the freezer!

I know we're really lucky. I do a lot for my mum and dad though, so I guess it's a perk perhaps? Anyway, we can't wait. emski I looked at Longleat but we just can't afford it, or really justify the price with the girls still so young. Maybe in a few years we can stay with you, that'll bring the cost down

ponyo just in from my run, was bloody freezing out there. Get started girl, you'll love it! Hope A is ok, hopefully she'll sleep it off, mine seem to sleep and sleep when they're poorly.

reastie tough decisions, I'd keep talking it over with DH if I were you, as someone else said you need him 100% behind you.

blizy sorry you've had a shocker of a day. Have you got them all again tomorrow? Maybe you just needed this year to devote to Zoe and properly grieve for her, and once the year is up it'll be your time. I'm sure I've heard you need a year and a day to start accepting a death- so you can mourn through all the birthdays, Christmas etc, then the anniversary of their death. Makes a bit of sense to me, but I've never been in your position :( . Much love as always anyway xxxx

wiggles I think I sent you a text? of your freezer defrosting (not).