September 05 - lots of smiles

[milward]

Here it is!!

Pcircus - hope your appointment goes well.

Mummyhill - wish I could help out. Happens to me as well.

ds is getting his first tooth as well. Just needs to come through the gum.

{{{{Hugs}}}}} to you Sallie. I wish I could offer more than a written word.

He's done this before? No wonder you can't trust him anymore. I wish there was some way I could tell you the right thing to do but I have never walked in your shoes so I don't know. Some women live with the fact their husbands have affairs, others can't stay another day. Could you go to counselling by yourself at least? It might help you work out what's important to you and to see some clearing through the fogginess.

Sallie - very very he's done this to you before. I'm making a voodoo doll - do let me know if he starts complaining about sudden sharp pains! and I'll buy more pins! Take care of yourself xxxxxxxx

No deliberate routine here - some times I kid myself into believing I have one - then Rachel reminds me I've not! I like to be spontaneous & children need to blend into your life not the other way around. Still want to hit Gina Ford with my changing bag!

Oh Sallie, makes me very sad to hear that people stay together for their children, you deserve to be loved and cherished too. Tho of course I have no idea what I would do in your situation. Are you considering contacting this woman because she is the only person who knows about this? You said that you have been unable to tell friends/relatives. Perhaps if you spoke to a counsellor you could get things off your chest with them instead.
Glad that you can talk to us about all this and hope that it helps.

Hi everyone,
JAAMY, i went back to work yesterday, and loved it although i've had a really bad cold for the last 3 days. Sods law, 6 months off work, then i'm ill the week i go back. I would love to have a meet up, will organise something with you in the next few weeks if you like.
Welcome back RZ
SALLIE, i'm really sorry that you're going through all this. I can't believe that your dh has done this before. I won't tell you what i think i would do, as i don't want to cause a uproar on the thread, i just hope you get through this and youg gorgeous children are ok. I personally think your dh is very selfish, but , HEY, HE'S A MAN!!! very anti-men here at the moment.

Sallie, I think I am at your H. And I think you are a very strong person.

Alice is getting frustrated with not being mobile. When she is on her back she is trying to lift up her head and is much happier when she is able to be more upright. Although she only wants to stay in the Bumbo for a few minutes at a time.

I think she needs to have a little bit of structure to her day - I am excellent at having no routine but I think she is starting to get overtired and is losing the ability to fall asleep anywhere and any time. How many naps do babies this age normally have? You wouldn't think I have a 26 month old as well would you ?

I think I am going to try sending DS to nursery in pants tomorrow . Along with umpteen changes of clothes. He has been doing well at weeing on the potty and only seems to need to every couple of hours (and then produces lots ).

I think I have been thinking a lot

Jammy - Thought I might give her a breast feed at 7pm and then offer a bottle of formula after so that if she's a bit more hungry she can stuff herself, did this with DS and seem to help (except h'd stuff down a full bottle after a supposedly full breast feed which made me wonder how much I was actually producing!)

Beattie - lol at the routine lady, thought I had my routine all sorted and then it all changed. Much easier to take each day as it comes than feel a failure just cos DD has slept X minutes at x time (but 2 hours at lunch time was bliss when she did it!!)

Sallie - so sorry you're haviing such a crap time. Hats off to you for having 3 under three - I don't know how you cope.

Cabe - re the meet up I'm in SE london/kent borders.

Met up with work colleagues today, took both children and Gabrielle woke up after a v short sleep and was then wingy/yelling for the rest of the meal, wouldn't feed or sleep just hacked off. Think she is a home bird as was v unsettled when we went away last month. DS has always travelled v well and thought it was just our wonderful parenting skills haa haa!

Oh crikey PC - me too (dd in knickers to pre-school). She has gone in pull-ups for the last 4 times though, and done a poo each time! Not sure whether the knickers such a good idea.... Depends how brave I'm feeling - don't want her to hae negative times at pre-school until she's really used to it.
Tom is also desperate to be upright. Will sit under his gym, and I hold his t.shirt and he loves to kind of move himself around. Hates being still - always bouncing as if to gee me along.
He sleeps for about 30 mins in the morning (so between 8am and 1pm ish) and then about 2 - 3 hours in the afternoon (1pm till 4ish). Then asleep by 7.30ish. Have to say the morning naps are pretty hit and miss, but he's really grouchy and not up for an afternoon nap if he's overtired. Sleep breeds sleep as my mother always says!
Last night he slept from 7.30pm until 5am! Then slept til 8.30am. Unprecedented and completely out of the blue (usually wakes at 3am and 6am ish.

Alice is very keen to sit upright too. She seems to be a month ahead of my dd1 in this respect so I am hoping she will sit earlier. She's happy in her Bumbo if we're all sat on the floor playing with dd1 or if I make Alice acentrepiece on the table whilst we eat lunch

We have one of those babynest donut rings too and she will play for a little while in there without flopping over too much.

Alice's morning nap is hit and miss but I am working on it. dd1 took to regular naps around 5 months. I always followed the rule of putting her down 2 hours after she woke up. Re the afternoon nap, I'd look out for cues of tiredness and put her down then. I hope Alice makes it as obvious.

Good luck to all of those who have gone back to work or are going back soon. that you'll get to have a cup of coffee in peace.

I'd maybe be up for a meet-up but I'm probably the most Southern dweller here - living in the SE on the coast.

Morning all.

Sallie - ((hugs)) hope you can find someone to talk it all through with and come to some kind of resolution. I personally couldn't stay with someone who persistently played away from home, I would have to tell them to decide what they want and either leave or stay but if it happened again they would get their marching orders as it is not fair on you or the children. I don't think contacting the other woman would help much tbh it may just cause more heartache. I know it is a difficult time for you and will be sending loads of positive MN vibes your way.

I NEED SLEEP, HELP SORTING OUT MY PIGSTY and a hug!!!! DH decided to moan about the state of the house yesterday (yipee he noticed it's worse than usual) and was quite upset when I told him to stop moaning about it and help then!!! Apparently this must be asking too much though as he hasn't even taken his breakfast plate etc out this morning. He is too tierd after being at work all day!!! FFS I am going back to work on the 13th which means being up from 6ish tending to children, entertaining them all day, feeding us all then starting work at 18.45 till 23.45 three nights a week and then going in 11.00 till 20.00 on a Saturday as well as keeping the house tidyish (yeah right). The two nights I have off each week will be spent looking after the kids whilst he goes to teach karate and unless I find a babysitter and the energy to go training with him on a sunday morning I will only see him on a sunday afternoon so won't be doing hswrk then. Am I being daft? Am at the dr's tonight as the HV got worried and booked me an appointment.

Ohh well better go and get on with some housework.

Morning

Take care Mummyhill - thinking of you xxxxxxxx

Aargh glad (well not glad, but you know what I mean!) I'm not the only one with the horrid fluey-tummy bug thing that's doing the rounds. We all have it, Elise included Is there anything you can give them at such a young age? Her nose isn't blocked, but running a bit, making her cough and sneeze poor mite.

And I still have so much packing to do... oh dear.. another fun day in store lol ;)

Thinking of you Sallie xxx

PS Mummyhill you are v.brave going to work such long hours so early on! Hope it all goes ok, I guess it'll just take a while to get used to the new routine. Perhaps getting out of the house is just what you need?

One of our local schools has been closed for a thorough cleaning due to this tummy bug as two thirds of the pupils are down with it!!!!!

Hi all,

long time no see. every seems to be doing ok. PC reading back about noone being pregnant....not true anymore i'm 7weeks. we haven't told anyone yet so count yourselves lucky. Noah's doing really great now weighs 18lbs!!! glad everyones babes are ok speak soon

x x

good lord NLTM! So that'll be a year age gap.

Congratulations! But as well!

Have you read the Jools Oliver book on being a mum? She's got a 54 week age gap I think.

Just under a year pooka, due august/september instead of september/october

Congratulations NLSTM! Were YOU shocked? What about your DF? I've known a few people with 14/15 month age gaps. The first few months seem a bit hectic but then I have a 3 year age gap and it's still hectic here....so, if it's all you know, you just get on with it.

LL ~ You could try Medised. I think you can take that from 3m. It has an antehistamine (sp?) in it so helps to dry up the snot.

Nolongersingleteenagemum - congratulations! - you'll be on the August/September 06 thread too!!!! and another summer pregnant!!!!!

You'll be able to reuse your mat. clothes and Noah's baby gear (particularly if another boy). How exciting. I think I read in Penelope Leach that an 11-12 month age gap, while physically tiring, has the advantage of the older child not feeling so pushed out as 4 year old and not being so independent and demanding as say, a (terrible) 2 year old.
Are you still planning the wedding for this year? And are you still moving to se london?

Congratulations NLSTM good luck, keep us posted as to how you are getting on with Noah and your beannie!!!

I have been reffered back to councelling, I did raise the issue of the lack of continuity last time and that I wasn't sure what I wanted from them but I am willing to give it another try as long as they don't come out when DD is here as she is to bright for her own good. Gp has also prescribed AD's and told me that they shouldn't cause me any problems with the thyroxine so I have made a huge decission to start taking them. I hope this will help to lift my moods enough for me to takle all the stuff that is bothering me atm.

Cabe are we still up for a meet this month?

Hello all - namechange here.... if I do loads and loads of smilies and emoticons you'll provably know who it is!!

Unfortunately I've got my reasons for having to change my name and won't be using ** any more. Just a precaution as I don't want recogniton in RL (now I know there's something I need to worry about )

Beatie - what a lovely image with your Alice as a focal point of your dining table

Mummyhill - Yes of course I'm still up for meeting on the 17th!!! would love to see you.

Beatie so you're down south and Rhumba's in SE london kent... rather thrilled you'd like to meet too Beatie... do you think we'd be able to persuade Milward??? [cheeky emoticon]

As you can probably tell I'm feeling much better now but sallie you're not wrong in the description. Felt just like I was hit by a bus!

Little man had his last innoculations today - dp was over for his wednesday shift whilst I went into lectures and then did the holding baby thing when we went to the nurse. I'm so awful with needles I could'nt trust myself holding ds, so frightened I'd faint, when dd had her first jabs she flinched and the nurse scratched her

Justified Rant Alert

The name I've chosen is apt because I'm feeling stunned and glazed-over about what's transpired over the last couple of days

I'm just finding it difficult to put things into place and would like a loan of your ears to rant to as I feel I can't talk to my family about this - not at the moment whilst things are 'up in the air'

Sallie - you know I said I was on the other side of the argument to yourself? {where's the duh-duh booby prize, loser noise when you want it} Nooo got that wrong! Oh God it's just such a mess

Dp has revealed to me that what was a 'stalker' ex phoning and doing the bunny-boiler rants over the last few months is in fact a woman that he's been sleeping with during my pregnancy. After things have been going so well after ds was born and after spending so much time on my own but in the hopes that after my degree we'd be bringing up our beautiful little man together along with my wonderful dd he has been living a double life (his own words)

I'm not even angry with him - I got a sniff there was something amiss a long while ago and perhaps should have confronted him - but you're so vulnerable when carrying a baby, I don't think I could have coped with his 'choosing' the other woman - I'm just so very sad... I've spent the evening trying not to cry in front of dd and now I can't stop... Sorry to burden you all

Wabbit - I'm really sorry. What a horrible thing to find out. What are you going to do?

wabbitintheheadlamps = really sorry to hear your news xxxxxxxxxxx

wabbit will phone you later if you want a sympathetic ear hunny. Sorry to hear that your previous suspicions were true. Virtual hugs, tea and sympathy winging their way to you via the power of MN.