July 2010: It's about time, that we all went back to rhyme!

[Spirael]

Though mutiny is always an option.

will catch up properly later, have literally just sat down to eat after being non-stop busy all day. i've said it before and i'll say it again but mlic i really don't know how you do it!! and i don't just mean bedtime, i mean everything! (dh is away so i'm having to pick up the stuff he usually does too plus the cleaner's coming tomo so have had to tidy up)

laters x

We never got a toddler bed for A, she just went straight into a single bed when she was about 2 and a half.

Another Christmas party today, at pre-school. Not much other news here.

F had a cotbed which we converted into a bed after A was born (i think) so close to 2. he's now got a single bed and A's in the cotbed. won't rush to take the bars down unless she starts trying to scale them.

tbh, that cotbed's not seen much use given both of them always preferred our bed

Ha! Cake I did at the irony of 'I don't know how you do it all...plus the cleaner is coming... A cleaner if only :)

W has a cot bed so will convert it to a toddler bed as and when. But if it didn't convert I'd go straight for a single like you Woodlands as I think they're shit not great value for money, speaking from my experience with E. As it is though the cot bed was a ridiculous amount of money so will get full use out of it!

that did sound dreadfully spoilt didn't it?

in my defence, i work a LOT on my days at home (so much so most people at work don't even know i'm 'part-time') so my days are fucking manic trying to juggle being a decent mother and doing stuff with F and A whilst constantly replying to work emails and signing off designs. if i did all the housework too then i would lose the plot even more

No no cake, fair play to you having a cleaner, I'm jealous! It was just quite funny the way you wrote your post

Chul just watched 'Evening' from LoveFilm. Twas shit, one to miss in case it catches your eye. It had quite good potential, was just very badly done.

Well i have seen every hour at least three times and this is NOT due to D, infact so far he has slept really well, i have just had to go in to settle him and couldnt face getting back into bed and just tossng and turning some more so im up with tea! i have a really sore throat and bad head just to add insult to injury! HUFF!! D is really unsettled now but i really dont want him to wake DH as he hasnt been sleeping well the last few nights and we fell out last night just because we are both so tired, not a good start if the baby comes!
Sorry im greeting you all with a miserable morning message, im sure the day can only improve!

Oh sorry you're having a rough time vik :(
Is D at the cm today? So you can get some rest?

OMG! 8pm to 4am constant screaming. F that is.

It seemed as if he wasn't getting full. My boobs felt all empty and he just screamed in frustration. How can nature have designed babies to go through so much pain? It really seems unfair and it's shite that I can't help him.

Never have daylight and a cuppa been so comforting. Everything's shit at night.

M's a delight though

As you were

If FIL wasn't buying the toddler bed we would be getting a single bed too as that was the original plan. Apparently the toddler bed can take them til they're 5.

vik sorry you had a rubbish night hope tonight is better for you.

trudy poor F :( would a bottle help him at all or did you not want to go down that route?

wss D's cot never had any use either, at least his mattress gets a couple of hours a night. When he gets his new bed there is no way he's coming in with us. I want it to get used and for him to be comfortable about sleeping in it.

Sorry that last one was meant for cake oops!

poor mummies

vik that sounds horrid. can you get some rest today?

trudy i've thought the same re pain and tiny babies so many times too. doesn't seem right does it? fwiw, that definitely doesn't sound like colic - that's reflux or something else imo. have you got him sleeping at an angle? will he take a dummy yet?

even if he gets frustrated i would still take him off for the letdown. the times i forgot/didn't bother cos i was out with A then she'd pay for it later

i've been there with the empty boobs thing but for me in hindsight, i think it wasn't really the problem. milk production is usually constant so he should still be getting milk, it just seems like he isn't.

does he seem in pain? my two were (and A still is) very prone to wind pains if I or (after weaning) they ate something which gave them wind. I still can't give A many baked beans past breakfast now or she'll be up half the night screaming and farting

have you tried the dairy exclusion yet? that could well be the issue - so common as you've heard on here

so pleased M's being lovely

memph what kind of cake does she like? i have recipes for most things

trudy i totally agree that everything feels so much worse at night, poor you and poor F, did u say u had the docs this week? Glad M is being good.
Oh man cake the more u say about bf the more complicated it sounds, im just not sure im cut out for it, last time i found it absolutly horrendous, my nipples were in shreads, D was just sucking at bloodied stumps, they have never regained their proper shape since. Its the guilt that would make me try again.
mylifeHope ur having a lovely time, will u be getting any treatments/time out for yourself? dh delt with D this morning, he's really very good, i hadnt put anything out ready, usually i lay his clothes and food out but hes gone off to the cm so god knows what he hasnt got, im sure its all fine. So i will take it easy today, i sorted and washed all the tiny/new baby clothes yesterday, i have to be honest, it put me on a bit of a downer, kind of made it all too real really, i will dry them and put them ready in the draws today, maybe i'll feel better then, perhaps its hormonal or because im feeling a bit shitty?? I have been really looking forward to doing it too, weird.
stac where are u?? Hope ur staying in today, windy or what man!!!
Regarding reusing old stuff, would you re use teats/dummies/moses matress etc??

vik i'm not at all typical wrt to bf honestly! i have a mega fast letdown and flow - it'll literally spray feet across the room AND i also have too much milk.

even so, i didn't find it a pita at all - the fact i'm STILL bf 16 months on kinda bears that out

give it a go - pressure-free and you might be pleasantly surprised how easy it is this time. if it isn't then no guilt needed . just do what works for you. just the same as birthing methods i reckon.

I do but the recipe's at home

cake He does seem in pain and I have such trouble getting him to burp. I take him off frequently to try and burp him but nothing happens. I've tried all different ways. Then after a while, instead of a burp he spits it all out and starts screaming cos he's hungry again. He also screams while I try and burp him, not sure though whether it's pain or anger for having been taken off.

I will try and remember the letdown taking off, though tbh, last night there wasn't much there anymore anyway.

He doesn't sleep on his back full stop, whether it's angled or not. He only sleeps on us, in the sling or sometimes during the day on his tummy. He sometimes takes a dummy but when he is in pain or just about to spit up, he hates it.

Thanks so much cake for all your help and suggestions.

I've not done the dairy exclusion cos he seemed so much better at the weekend. The only thing different to what I did at the weekend is that I didn't take this vile dill water that the midwife recommended, cos I'd run out. I've ordered it again now and can pick it up later. We'll see if that was what helped and if not I'll exclude all dairy.

viks Docs appointment is next Tuesday.

dh We had a bottle of formula all prepared and ready yesterday cos we were so desperate but then didn't do it in the end. I was too scared that it wasn't hunger and that something else was wrong with him and formula may have made it worse. I have managed to express a bit this morning so might top him up with that tonight if he takes a bottle...

Sorry for using the thread as a newborn thread. Will stop now.

We didn't put our tree up on Tuesday, but will do today. Very excited.

DP is in a foul mood. No wonder after the night we had. I still don't like being moaned at.

cake How did your solo night go? Hope they were good for you.

mlic Hope you're having a lovely time. When are you back?

viks Hope you're feeling better soon. I understand how you feel about it feeling real, but try not to worry too much. Despite my problems I still think it's not as hard as I imagined.

dh How was your night?

Haven't got much else to say, I know, I know, I already said enough Have a nice day all.

trudy really dont think ur turning it into a newborn thread, we have all been here long enough to help and advise each other on all and any issues in life not just child related, thats how i feel anyhow. Thanks for your kind words, i do feel better today, I'm deep cleaning and decluttering, so far done the bathroom, our bedroom and i have weeded out all the clothes that dont fit D any more and made two draws free for the baby's clothes. I feel like theres stuff everywhere atm, i really want to get rid of it all!

B is getting a toddler bed for Christmas. She is in a tiny little bedroom and I think the toddler bed will make the room look bigger then putting in a proper single bed for when we come to sell the house D went straight into a proper single bed.

I have heard that they do that in show homes, use smaller furniture and people dont realize and thing the house is bigger than it is, good trick dythan

trudyla our night was pretty bad as usual! Don't worry about talking newborn stuff. We've all been there and some of us have it coming up in the near future so it's still all on our minds. We're happy to offer any help and support if you need it.

D had half an hours sleep in his bed. Then about 20 mins in the car on the way to my friends ds' party, then about 10 mins on the way home. I woke him up at 5 so god knows what time he will go down tonight. He obv needs more sleep in his bed but I don't know how! I can't force him to stay asleep after half an hour and even if I try to resettle him it takes ages and he'll then only sleep another 5-10 mins.

viks I've reused everything from my two except bottle teats, I bought new (they didn't have dummies but I'd have changed them). The moses mattress was 'secondhand' when L had it, then S used, then my nephew and now Frijol. I honestly can't see the problem tbh.

I love L's cotbed, the only reason we moved her out a couple of months ago was because she wanted us to snuggle with her and it would creak alarmingly

S has been ill all day, fever and just a little koala baby clinging on to my/DH's hip. I really hope he picks up soon although I'm loving the cuddles!

trudy if it is dairy, formula will make it just as bad. It really is worth a try cutting it out imo . And would you be happy putting him down on his front? maybe just for naps while you're there if you're worried, S slept a hell of a lot better on his front from a couple of weeks old.

Just list a big ish post thanks to Centre Parks's bastard wifi

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cakes when I got the net back and came back you were talking about apple muffins I think? If you put the recipe on I missed it or something like that? I love apple in cakes!
trudyla think this is a thread more about friends and support than just for toddlers, chat away, im sure when im in the same boat I will be crying on here everyday!
mlic can you stop with this talk of the pancake house on fb? Im jealous, we went every day when we were there and mum put on over half a stone! cant wait to go back!
dh why did you not go back to the cot? Im sure you mentioned it but I cant remember, with number 2 will you do anything differently or would you still co sleep?
L loves his cot, he has his door totaly shut and we will eventually convert it to a bed then when we habe number 2 we will buy him a bunk bed, he can sleep on bottom then when his sibling moves in he can move to the top, we have 3 bedrooms but I want him to share I loved sharing with my sister (she hated it though)

Been manic at work, my mum has had a funny turn and I made her go docs she has a virus that has caused vertigo so no driving, so im working tomorrow and on saturday!