July 2010: It's about time, that we all went back to rhyme!

[Spirael]

Though mutiny is always an option.

disclaimer - i'm not necessarily advocating eating squirrel and horse

chu its shit, just totally shit isnt it. I dont know what we are doing to cause it though.
woods i hope the sleep training goes ok, fwiw i think ur doing the right thing, its hard this sleeping thing isnt it!

mlic Oh dear. I really feel for you. We are having the same mare with M. Yesterday I fed F so he was happy, then I took M to bed and sat for an hour and waited for her to fall asleep. I tried to sneak out before but she would start screaming straight away. 5 minutes after I got out, she woke, saw that I wasn't there and started the screaming again from the days before. I really, really don't know what to do about that. I was convinced that it's to do with our situation and all the changes that have been happening, but maybe it's just a 16 months thing? Is there such a thing as a 15/16 months sleep regression? Judging by this thread there seems to be...

viks and stac Thanks for asking. My scar still hurts but is getting better every day. As for breastfeeding, we are doing really well. I can't believe how much easier it is this time around. Last time I was in agony for 17 weeks. This time I was completely pain free after 7 days. It's fantastic. I'm getting better playing with M while bf as well and once I can sit on the floor for bf without being in pain, it's gonna be even better, cos M likes playing when I'm on the floor with her. Most of the time I don't think she even realises that F is latched on. When bf M I read about a woman who said she would hoover while bf and I thought what kind of witch is that. But I don't think I'm far off that
So what I want to say vik with all this is that you should try and not worry too much. Second time round things are completely different. You will be less stressed out about things and everything newborn related is gonna be that much easier cos you've been there and have done it.

woodlands Last night at 4 I ate 5 rich chocolate pralines for no reason whatsoever. I don't think I'm ready for dieting yet My plan is to start second week in January. Not directly after Xmas and New Year, as that's too depressing, but quite soon.

chulita That sounds very unfair of your D H. We are all amazed by how much you do and how well you cope with 2 toddlers, no child care and being pregnant. Makes me want to weep just thinking about it. So go on, tell H to sod off, we're all right behind you, tell him

dylth Really had to laugh at you being allowed to eat horse and squirrel. Maybe I will stick with my good old calorie counting, rather than look into this diet. Mind you, if I was only allowed to eat horses and cats, I'm sure I would loose a lot of weight

Right, I'd better try and get 40 winks while M is with the nanny and F is sleeping. Have a good day all.

Can't quite get over it myself cake

He was hiddeous though - no 'cuddling' or 'snuggling' going on, just kicking, headbutting and pushing (him, not me, in case that needed clarification, ha!)

Sounds like everything is great there trudy! So pleased for you :)

Can you link to that thread please cake? I'd be interested to read what she thinks about the diet. Will have a look into it and see what we'd be 'allowed'

trudy thanks for that, its so nice to hear, U really sound like things are ok, for one of the first times yesterday i felt a little smile occuring at the thought of this little one being here so soon, im actually starting to feel like i could maybe look forward to it rather than dread it quite so much!
mylife D has been like that a few times, its horrible isnt it, i just dont think they want to be handled at all but dont want to be alone either, is he poorly?

Well we've all got a heavy cold and a chesty cough. Except dh. God help me when it hits him...

And he's teething. Not a good combo!

Just got back from toddler group it did not go well. :(

B was so clingy and then when she finally did go off to play she ran over another babys fingers with a dolls pushchair.

When it came to clearing up snack I went through to the kitchen to do my bit and wash up I'd only just turned on the taps when I heard crying and looked through and the childminder of the baby who's fingers B had run over was holding on to a very upset B. I went and asked what was wrong and she said B was so upset because she was trying to get out the main door because she thought I'd
gone and left her and she didn't know where I was :(

No one spoke to me this time.

I also forgot B's bib and she's dribbling like a waterfall at the moment every one there probably thinks I'm the worlds worst mummy. :(

dylthan that sounds a bit stressfull but people wont think ur a bad mother at all, its hard going to a new group but im sure if you persevere it will be fine.
tsc that doesnt sound quite right does it, when was the last time you saw her?
mylife hows the other outfit going? I wonder how D has got on in his pj's today!

dylthan it's a good sign that someone picked her up, at the really bad groups everyone just tuts and watches you struggle. It's always hard going for the first few times!

I think with DH I'm feeling guilty that the house isn't tidy, clean and neat the way he'd like it to be. I do have time to do it but it would involve not doing other things and tbh I don't have the energy. I suppose because of that I don't feel I can put my foot down on other things cos the house is constantly in a mess...if that makes sense.

Argh, L won't leave me alone, back later!

Oh bless you dylth! Nobody will think you're a bad mother! I often forget to take a bib for lo, particularly if I've woken him from a nap and gone straight out, as then he doesn't have one on already. And he is definitely the worst dribbler on the thread.

I understand where you're coming from with your dh chul

Yes I finished it just before I had to rush out to parent forum for 1pm vik. It looks good imho. Will post a picture of it

How often do you normally see your bf tsc? Is she suddenly busy or is this what she's normally like?

vik nobody British or who has lived out in the UK between 82-96 (or something like that) is allowed to donate blood here because of the risk of CJD (mad cow disease) - it's a blood borne disease so could be passed to someone else if you donated. It rules out loads of Kiwis too as lots of them spend a year or two in the UK at some point. And CJD doesn't exactly seem rife but hey, I don't make the rules.

Like chul mine won't sleep in the bed with us, well G did as a little baby when she had reflux but not nw

Dylth- that sounds just like my experience of baby groups. D is hysterical when I leave him so now when we go he will stick to me like glue and if I dare walk to the other side of the room he has a meltdown, it's put me off going tbh.

Had a good day with my mum and sister, had breakfast out then went back to mums and D had a sleep then we all went to the castle play area for an hour and the kids had a good time. Then me and my mum went to a cafe for tea and scones!

chu i can also understand where ur coming from, tis very difficult to give and take sometimes, especially when its not like for like. However, ur not going to be preggers for ever and he could do with cutting you just a bit of slack right now.
wss what time is it over there?? I thought u were joking about mad cow desease, thats horrid really.
cake i wish D would snuggle up like A does, not chance though, i bet that is lovely and if you can sleep too then i totally dont blame u.
mylife put ur pic up!! how u feeling?
Im feeling a tad weak and pathetic today, have done a fair bit i suppose considering im supposed to be relaxing, wish id have had a kip now! Hope dh is up for cooking tea while i veg some more, they should be home in a min, hope D is in a good mood and not to over tired.
Did you all see that report on july babies underperforming at school? Have we mentioned that?

It's 7am vik, I've been up since about 10 to 6.

Meant to say to trudy, glad everything is going well, hope you are getting some rest, I know it must be hard with 2 but try to put your feet up when you can.

I am getting tough on early-waking-baby, I decided to set a time and I won't get up before then - Im starting with 5.30 and going to try to then make it 5.45, then 6 etc. If she wakes and cries before then she just has to grizzle for a bit (as long as she's not actually hysterical or anything) and if she wakes her sister then so be it. I've been doing it 3 days and it's working I think. I'm not getting any more sleep because I'm still awake from 4.50 or whatever listening to her through the monitor but at least I'm lying in bed getting a bit of rest.

Sorry toddler group didn't go so well dylthan babies are always crying at ours when the mum leaves to go to the kitchen, someone else picks them.

Vik- yes I heard about July babies under performing at school because they are amongst the youngest in the school. Let's hope we've got a brainy bunch here!

My pic is on vik :)

Sounds like a good plan wss!

wss Can u hear her if u turn the monitor off? I wish i could turn the monitor off but clearly our house is made of tissue paper and u can hear pretty much everything through the wall.
dh that sounds like a lovely day, lets hope D has a good night for u tonight.
I went on a december babies thread today but didnt post cos they seemed really tight and one of them said they fill up a thread in two weeks! thats some chat, i wouldnt be able to keep up with them at all. I just wanted to see how others in my situation were doing as im feeling a bit crappy the last few days.
D wasnt too bad tonight, all he wants to do when he gets home is roll on the sofa and throw himself around on the cushions, strange, hes really into a story right before bed at the moment and i really love reading to him, i point at the words as im reading and he has started doing it too and he like to turn the page when ur ready.Ahhhhhhhhhhh i love it. Whats everyone elses favourite thing you enjoy doing with them?

If I turn the monitor off I can hear her if she really screams loudly but grizzling or "moderate shouting" :o I wouldn't hear. I turn the monitor down so I can still hear but it's not too loud. Dh has been saying we should turn the monitor off for months but I don't want to.

Two of the three mornings (that I've planned to leave her till 5.30) she has grizzled for 5 mins then gone quiet/gone back to sleep (not sure which) till nearly 6 so it's quite a good result so far.

vik the Dec thread will prob get quieter, they start off with loads of people and inevitably some go quiet/drop out.

Got to go do a pooey nappy, A is holding her down for me so she can't run away :o

Ah that's nice vik :) I don't read to ds2 at bedtime because he is really not interested. But ds1 wasn't at his age either so I'm not worried. My favourite thing is, erm, probably when I put the kitchen radio on and he dances with me Even if I'm carrying him which is most of the time he will still jump about in my arms grinning like a cheshire cat, 'tis very cute.

I used a monitoe for a few weeks with ds1 and only turned it on once or twice with ds2! And that was only from downstairs, I've never had a monitor in the bedroom, dh would have hit the roof! And me probably - they're noisy enough through the walls!

Still feeling pretty rubbish but not too ill for wine tonight Too ill to cook though...

viks I dip in and out of the March thread but tbh I can't really be bothered to start up another one. DH does the bedtime story right before bed and they both really like it, S is really into books. I love taking him out to find puddles, he just stands in them and stamps his feet with a huge grin on his face!

wss I do that with S but it's not helped with us. He's cracking all his pre-molars though so I reckon we're not going to get any peace til they're done.

I read about July/August babies but pish to that, there are bright ones and not quite so bright in all months. Ours will be very, very little when they start but can't do much about it!

If I see a crying baby I tend to pick it up, most mums are fine but I had one lady come and snatch hers out of my arms giving me the most evil look. Her little girl was sobbing her heart out though and her mum was in another room chatting to a friend. I'd just scooped her up and was off to find her but you can't please everyone!

Excuse me miss

I'm a July baby and fairly bright I reckon