Nov 05 Babies - They're ALL here!

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Here we go, was going to write something lovely and meaningful, but I'm not very good at it so I'll leave that to someone else.....

Mummypinny - I have 10 week old twins. Two boys - what do you have?

Becks - having a baby is meant to improve brain power!observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1686984,00.html

Busy - I feel knackered, but in a strange way feel I have even more energy now than ever before.

JenJam - good to see you yesterday. Shame the boys were being a bit of a pain and I never got to see the end of the film. Next time I will bring a friend and we can hold one each!

Did you get the name of that woman we met in Tchibo - she was really nice.

Golden thanks for that, what a great article, the worrying thing is that I have now given birth twice and therefore should be twice as bright so I hate to think what i must have been like before probably a sloth or a lemming .

How are Ezra and Nathaniel, were they just playing you up yesterday or was something wrong?

Could someone send me some cyber sleep please Thomas got up at 4:00am and went back down at 5:30am then Ben got up at 6:00am just as I was dropping off to sleep - needless to say Thomas is asleep now but I'm overtired adn can't settle and know that as soon as I do he'll wake up for a feed.

Hope you girls enjoy your meet ups today, please get some photos for us Enthusia!

Hi everyone...just a quick hello to let you know dd1 is fine and over the moon that her ear tag is finally gone. ds2 still poorly at home but over the world. phew. feel a bit wrung out but very very relieved. thanks for all yor messages and will catch up asap.

xx

Good news Londoner - what a relief.

Beks - the boys were both grizzling at the same time, nothing wrong with them, just grumpy.

hi all

Hi all,

Just v.quickly scanning last couple of days and had to say Welcome to MummyPinny.
And Enthusia and ChaCha, so sorry you're both really going through it on the feeding front. If it's any help, and I hope I don't offend anyone here, but after some experience, I avoid HVs and clinics wherever possible. I weigh babies myself at home if I'm curious, and judge baby's health using my own eyes and instincts. I always attend the landmark check-ups but that's all. ChaCha perhaps you could talk to those 'La Leche' bf people they might be helpful? Any other concerns and I would talk to my GP. In my experience when I've been doing just fine HVs have poked and prodded to try and find something the matter even when everything is perfectly fine. The latest one stayed for just under 3 hours at my home visit 10 day check talking all about herself and her kids and even about having her coil fitted, oh and not forgetting her planned hysterectomy..... hello? It's almost like the job attracts people with insecurity complexes, who need to be needed. Sorry I know this is a grossly unfair generalisation but it's what I have personally experienced! Sounds like you've both been pretty squashed by yours and I'm not surprised you're feeling the way you do. OOh I'm so cross! BTW, I was bottle fed and I'm perfectly fit, healthy and my weight is normal, not that there's anything wrong with being a heavier individual for goodness sake!
Sorry to go on, but I felt so cross reading your posts. Time and again it seems you're saying that you think your baby's are fine and healthy and doing well with the adjustments you've made in their diet (Enthusia) and ChaCha if Zayn's now sleeping through the night already (and not a lot of baby's do at his age) then your milk is just perfect as is everything you're doing.
Stick to your guns girls, you're doing a great job.

(Sorry to gate crash thread but can't find novadandypowder's email address!!! Just to say thanks so much for the stuff you sent, it is so lovely of you, love Compo xxx)

dont know what happened there hehe

hope you are all well- it'll take me forever to read through and catch up on the last two weeks

oskar is doing great he's 9lb 11 now and lost all his hair but it's coming back now

have you arranged any meet ups for the near future?

i have to agree i have been made to feel very guilty about not breastfeeding
the worst comes from dp's dad & his girlfriend of all people- they have been quite nasty about it

same at my postnatal group the first meeting involved 2 hours talk about breastfeeding and only quick instructions about the importance of steriliing for us using formula

ah well - oskar is healthy and content which is all i care about!

helloooo

welcome mummypinny - hope you've got a spare hour or two a day to keep up with us gossipers

hi Bob, good to see you back again

Londoner - glad all is well with your offspring

Compo (if she comes back) - glad you got it ok

Left nat for the first time with the childminder this afternoon. It was a strange mix of relief and fear - lol! Ended up spending my afternoon shopping for her though (rolls eyes). It seemed to go well, she even got her sleeping in her chair which I can never do! She'll be doing weds and fri afternoons after next week, so I can start booking dentists appointments and the like - hurrah.

Ok, this is the dilemma- some of you will remember the
sister who i dont get on with, you've probably heard
me talk of her before.
shes getting married in june and whats us all to go+
me be a witness(tried getting me to be bridesmaid but
i managed to get out of that by saying i couldnt leave
dp to deal with 2 small children during service and
the fact i'll still be breastfeeding!)

Thing is, im learning to drive as not driving with 2
small children is really hard work and really
stressful, so that costs money. I have alexs bday end
of feb, robs bday and his brothers bday end of may,
BIL's baby due april....etc etc and i want to pass
test and save for car/tax/insurance by the summer.

the dilemma is- We dont particulary want to go as we
dont like them, but cant exactly say this to them. I
have contacted traveline and train costs will be £123
at least for us(no way traveling by bus) then theres
the b&b- been qouted £158 which is the cheapest i
could find, then theres food etc for the kids and food
for us to pay for on the friday night -just dont know
if we can afford it, but not sure how to get out of it
either.

sister will be in pieces if we dont go(shes a rather
pathectic character, highly emtional/sensitive etc)
but her hb to be wont givea t* as he doesnt
particulary like us.

have thought of ringing up on the week b4 and saying
we've all come down with a stomach bug, but cant think
of any other excuses+ she will know we havent booked a
b&b-or we could book, and then lose deposit-that wont
be anywhere nr as much as the cost for everything if
we went......

ahhh, what should i do?? really dont relish the
thought of travelling to york with 2 small children
anyway.....help!

A quick 'hello'before the teatime rush! Had a lovely meet-up with Enthusia, who politely ate dd2#s cake and responded with enthusiasm to endless demands for pictures . Sam is gorgeous, and the picture of health .
Glad dd is fine, Londoner, what a relief! Beksmum, the toddler-baby thing is really hard going isn;t it, particularly in the middle of the night! I can hardly believe it's happening, when it does, and sometimes feel really miserable about it all the next day (not helped by the exhaustion!). Hope the toddler wakings are short lived (although I have to say dd2 is still waking on and off, age 3)
Well, I've git a major screaming situation, so speak later!
Diege.

busy- i'd say the best thing to do is be honest say you really can't afford it but best wishes etc

we have a similar dillemma - my uncle who i don't really get along with is getting married in wales over easter weekend and not only will it cost a fortune for us to go but dp's weekends are precious to him esecially now baby is here so he doesnt want to waste the bank holiday travelling and seeing family we dont really like - however all the rest of my family epect to see us there

its hard to not feel obligated i can understand but you obviously dont want to go!

oskar

just started so not much at the mo

BAM - I think at times like this you have to put yourself first. Maybe do as BOB says and just tell them the truth? You may get 'talked about' for a while but fudge to them!! Make yourself happy - life's too short

BOB - thats just tooooo cute

Just a quickie...

Hi everyone, Londoner I read your post with a v.big grin on my face. Thank you for the encouragement, you're a star! And glad all went well for your DD.

Enthusia texted me yesterday (didn't have time to post until now) to say that she didn't post as her HV was late and is now in Manchester. All went well with Sam he is now just below 91st centile. She was told not to increase food but not to restrict it either. Enthusia did really well and thanks everyone for their support.

Best be off x

Hi All - haven't been able to post much this week - have got builders in to create a downstairs cloakroom - so have been letting them in, gathering up baby Thomas and belongings and decamping to my parents for the days! Seemed the far less stressful option!!

Welcome to Mummypinny - I too joined this thread late, but have been made to feel very welcome, although I find it really hard to keep up with whos who and who is doing what! Maybe I'll get the hang when T is a teenager!

Entusia - read your post - isn't it funny how everone has an opinion?! You have to do what is best for you and baby, not just baby. Hence if you would be getting too stressed out with BF - then obviously it is better for both of you to supplement with Formula feeds, or just switch totally. I am exclusively formula feeding, and have been since the start. I think the majority of people in my post natal group are BF - but I don't let it worry me - it's my decision at the end of the day. It was apparent to all at the antenatal group that I would be FF, when I asked if you had to be BF to go to the BF group - could you still go if you were FF!!!! Lol!!

T had his 8 week check (and jabs!) yesterday - can't believe he is now 12lb 13!! Little guzzler! Jabs went ok, although he seems to have been a bit unsettled since, crying after feeds and taking a while to settle. Hopefully this will calm down soon?

His rash is also getting much better - particularly on his face. Got HV to look at it at pn group last week - she said it was sebhoreic (sp?) eczema and to use Aveeno cream - started that afternoon, and touch wood it has been improving ever since! Am also using Cetraben on his body as it is still on his chest, but fingers crossed.

Hope all is well with you all, sorry for long post, but haven't been on for a while as mentioned earlier. I am never able to catch up with what's happening, and sometimes feel a bit out of the loop as you have all made friendships throughout the pregnancy stage - but will hopefully be one of the Nov 05 gang eventually!!

hi brownie chick
dont feel left out! all are welcome on this lovely board
i have felt a little left out having missed out many of the births and general excitement through having no pc for a couple of months, but ah well!

i'm real woried at the moment...hope not too tmi but we did share many nasty preg probs!
after the birth i had a retained placenta and they mentioned high risk of infection .
anyways i have had three lots of antibiotics and still get snot like discharge plus today i found what looked like a piece of steak on my pad...yuck i know!
I want to push for a scan to check they removed everything but my gp says it isnt neccesary what do you think?
as a result we havent even begun to resume our sex life which is causing some stress for both of us...hehe
surely this isnt normal!?

Thank you for all your friendly welcomes!! I have one girl and one boy and they are wonderful although sleep is a thing of the past especially with my little girl. It is nice to know that you have twins as well Goldenoldie! How are yours sleeping?? I must admit that I am not good at checking my computer and with two babies and two boxer dogs sometimes it will be very hard. it is nice to read all your chats though, although I still need to work out how to read them in order as they are coming out so I am reading them backwards so to say! Anyway I will check again tomorrow and hope to have worked it out by then. I am sure I just need to click on a different icon!

mummy pinny there is a link to 'flip thread ' at the top of the page if you want to read it chronologically

Mummypinny - mine seem to take it in turns with sleeping. Ezra can go from 12 right through till 8am, but his brother, Nathaniel will wake at 4am and sometimes at 2am as well. On the nights that Nat will go through, Ezra will wake every 3/4 hours! So when one wakes, I just wake the other up for a feed anyway and get it all over and done with.

I've tried a bit of water to discourage Nat from waking, but he is hungry - guzzles the water and then cries till he gets his milk.

I am mixed feeding, but admit at night I'm often too knackered and giving a bottle is so much easier.

I'm used to it now and try and catch up on a few hours sleep between 8 - 11am, when they boys are sleeping after a feed.

Ezra has bad reflux which means he must be kept upright for upto 2 hours after each feed, so he spends a lot of time in his car seat at night.

Thanks BoB - am sure will settle into the swing of things eventually! Didn't think I'd come across you posting since I joined the thread - welcome back!
With reference to your retained placenta saga - regardless of what the GP says, I say if you are at all concerned, push for a scan. It doesn't sound quite right to me. Steak on pads and all
Let us know how you get on.
Brownie

Hi everyone! Just touching base - hi Brownie! Glad to hear rash has been diagnosed at long last, must be a relief! Mummypinny - nice to have one of each , do you have any other children? How much sleep are you getting? (having serious sleep envy after hearing about Sam's sleeping through the night from Enthusia! )
BAM, agree with Nova and BOB, honesty is probably best policy, but strongly playing up the financial side of things (of course, she could then offer to pay?!)
Golden: I have tried the old cooled, boiled water in the middle of the night as she was refusing her morning feed after feeding at 3ish, and was met with abject disgust , followed by piercing shrieks! Quickly gave in and got that bottle heated! Well, here we go again! - am dreaming of a full night's sleep!
Diege and Liberty

Diege - These are my first children. Twins was a great surprise. One was planned, two was not!! also we do not have any twins in either of our families - so big shock!! Fern my little girl is bad at night but apparently so was i, so I cant really complain! Connor is very good but is now starting to be woken by Fern (something that we were lucky enough not to have before - he would just sleep through her cries).

Goldonoldie - If I wake the one that is sleeping then they wont take all their bottle and then I ruion their routine and everyone wakes together which becomes like hell!

Thank you for the tip about the thread. i will try that!

i'm sure it's been said before -but twins!you must be saints...

how do you feed both at once?

and double the washing of clothes and sheets,wow!
but twice the joy i guess! hehehehee

i'm annoyed with myself now as i let oskar sleep from 3pm until present - he's about to get a bath with me and then he will no doubt be awake and wanting to play all night!