October 2011 - Let the poo obsession begin

[PenguinArmy]

Come chat, moan, boast (by stealth of course), vent, rage, relax, worry and be reassured. Welcome to all the new babies. Stats thread here

littlepebble as you say you don't need or want help looking after the baby, housework, cooking, ironing yes, but not baby. Also actual help is often wanted after the initial flurry when sleep deprivation starts to kick in or say at 6-8 weeks when you want to go for a swim/run etc. IMO people should just admit they want newborn cuddle time instead of pretending its to help us out. Luckily or unluckily we have no family in our town or indeed any friends.

Yep 90 mins/2hrs max at night is what we get, mostly every hour in the day. He's also only ever done 30 mins sleeping if not on/next to me.

emmazed absolutely NOTHING to be ashamed about, if it wasn't working it wasn't working. I've always maintained my BF was down to luck, 2-3 weeks is a make or break time for a lot of people.

DS had real clothes on today for the first time, I'll try and get a picture up later. He's 3 weeks tomorrow so we might be due our growth spurt although DD didn't have one here choosing to have an absolute monster one at 6 weeks.

hugs and chocolate to all that need them.

Pebble I can see where you are coming from, I am looking forward to Poppy and I going about our own business once DH goes back to work, just Pops and I. I know my Mum will keep wanting to come round but I just ignore some of her texts because she is driving me mad at the moment! Last night she sent 3 texts asking for a picture of Poppy in her Halloween slippers, trouble is we took them back to Tesco and swapped them for something more useful. Maybe just ignoring all the offers ? if they text you/leave answer machine messages is an option because you are so busy?

Emma you did it for the first few weeks though and that's the most important time.

Anyone have any thoughts on this - When bf Poppy has started making a sound which kind of sounds like she could be tapping the roof of her mouth with her tongue, I don't actually know what she is doing andtake her off and start agan but the noise starts again.

emmazed ditto what everyone else said, you need to do what's best for you and your LO and being upset and in pain isn't good for you and your LO would pick up on you tensing every time you went to feed, so much better to be relaxed and happy and great you can express some milk as well.
Cheshire is it like a clicking tongue noise?E makes funny loud sucking noises sometimes while feeding.
thank you all for the reassurance over family, DP came home last night to tell me his mother has decided to go down to 4 days a week at work so she can spend more time with E! not quite sure what to do now I can't have her here a day every week don't even want my own mother here that much! Argh!

I agree with everyone else emmazed, nothing to be ashamed of at all. I have said all along that if I didn't get on with it then I would give up because its so much better to have a happy mummy and happy baby.

DD makes sucking noises cheshire, which sometimes sound like clicking, it could be that.

DD is 2 weeks today and I have to confess that it seems like a lot longer than that! Had a night of very frequent feeding last night so shattered today.

clicking noises are normally a sign that the latch isn't quite right

pebble erm that sounds like fun. Are you still BF, I was forced to let ILs take DD out for 2-3 hours once a fortnight (I was not required), the feeding was a great excuse especially after a nursing strike due to a bottle preference. They used to visit for a few hours the other week but separately which was manageable. I hope she isn't expecting to spend the whole day with you.

last night here was very unsettled as well, however both mine are still in halloween outfits today as they got brought two. Mind you I had DD in xmas stuff all the way to April as it still fitted her, so expect to see them worn for a while yet.

thanks for your lovely messages - i do appreciate it. there is already so much guilt and worrying being a mum.... i guess that is something i just need to get used to/deal with.

he has had a very sicky day - are anyone else's LOs sicky after feeds?

i have had loads of help from my and DH's parents, but they have mostly left me to look after Joseph and just got on with cooking, cleaning, washing etc (it is amazing how much there is!). it is difficult, but i always think it is better to say now, otherwise it tends to blow up into something bigger later

Yes Emma and MrsP it is like a clicking sound, she didn't do it before so I don't know why it's started now. Penguin I wondered if she had started latching on wrong but it seems fine when I investigate, although now I am wondering if she is somehow taking air in and hence getting gassy/burpy :(

Emma Your post about DH's Mum going to 4 days a week sounds a bit out of order :(. I will be expecting to see a post in AIBU shortly . Can you just try using bf and mw appointments as reasons to be "busy". Poppy is sick after feeding sometimes, we seem to go through phases where she is fine for days then has 2-3 days of being sick then needing to feed again because she has just thrown it up!

First day back at work tomorrow for DH after 4 weeks, goodness knows if I will manage to get dressed etc tomorrow, bit scared :(

Snap Cheshire my dh is also back to work tomorrow although he's only had 1 week off. Im gonna get kids dressed before he leaves so that I might make it out if I feel like it. Am terrified at having to entertain ds while BFing a newborn though!
Tv may get overused!
I do aim to take them a walk to see the horses though which is an hour walk round trip (is that too long for a 2yo?!

Edward DH leaves at 7am so I too am going to see if we can be up by then but seen as normally it has taken me until about 11am to have showered it could be interesting!

I have no idea whether the walk is too far for a 2 year old but at least you have an aim DH said I cannot walk dog and pram on my own yet as 7 stone dog is still a bit of a goof ball.

Potentially really bad Mummy question - do people leave their babies in the locked car while they go in and pay for petrol?

edward Disney junior and cbeebies have been my lifesaver!!! Unfortunately ds now knows when I'm trying to distract him with tv as I've done it so much

Cheshire I always try and go to a pay at pump one even if It's a tiny bit more expensive and if car is low and I need to go out the next day I'll send dh or leave dh with kids while I take to fill up (it's a real change for me as I always used to run the car right down as hate buying petrol!). I've left ds in car before and spent whole time panicking and making impatient gestures behind people in the queue!

I do leave ds in locked car if paying for petrol, but like bb3 I spend the entire time in the queue huffing and tutting

My dh doesn't start work till 1pm so not that ambitious to have us all ready by then he was at a friends house last night though to wet baby's head (think he drowned her) as he's still in bed with hangover.

Sorry went a bit crazy with smileys there

chesire is this your first? If so, 11am is perfectly fine and is what I would do less time to kill before DH gets home. The activities I went to with DD were all 1pm so worked out great.

I left my petrol cap at the forecourt today

Thought it was about time I joined this thread now....

Loving being a mummy of 2 LOs - feel so much more relaxed and happy this time. Madeleine has a lovely temperament, much calmer than her sister was, and at the moment tends to just feed and sleep and settles quite easily despite her having a snuffly cold.

Really struggling with the bf though - very painful blistered nipples, and now mastitis :( - got antibiotics this afternoon so hope it clears up soon....

I do the same as BB3 with petrol. I avoid leaving them and when I do I chunter at people being slow. I'd be happier leaving Seth in the car than DD, she's okay now but until 6 months ago she hated it and would cry.

I've twice now managed to take DD to school and let DH stay in bed... although the silly man gets up about 9 anyway. I've not been showered, I do that afterwards, but I'm pleased that I've managed to direct DD to get washed, dressed, and eat breakfast while feeding Seth, and also doing her hair and making butties.

This morning all 4 of us were up, showered and out by 9:30 as we took Seth to be registered... it's official I got my choice of name! (Although I feel bad as I know DH doesn't love it, he just couldn't think of anything he liked.)

A boob question. Has anyone had thrush? I can't work out if we have it, or whether it's a combination of a bad latch, and normal tenderness.
I have a really strong let down, which is really painful. Even when he's not feeding and my boobs are empty they still ache. Seth's latch is definitely better than it was, but I'm still having a fair amount of pain.
Also his tongue is always white. I thought it was milk residue but it doesn't clear, but it doesn't look sore and he doesn't seem bothered by it.

He's still ridiculously chilled out. He sleeps most of the time, he's great at feeding while asleep and he goes 3-5 hours between feeds at night, he only really wakes properly around tea time... I keep waiting for it all to change... but praying that it doesn't :o

I suspect the 3 weeks growth spurt has arrived here. Seth tends to spend evenings (5pm-11pm) feeding for 15 minutes, then sleeping for an hour. Tonight he fed at 5, then started again at 6, and 3.5 hours later I've finally got him off my boob without him screaming for more!

Talking about petrol again. I last filled up the car just before I finished work 5 weeks ago. I've still half a tank left because I wasn't fit enough to go anywhere until this week. As a result I had £350 left in my bank account on payday! It's normally £0.

Thanks for everyones comments on the petrol situation, I left her in the car because she was asleep and I was the only one there. Was ready to leave the house by 10.30am yesterday and I had put some washing on {very proud of myself emoticon]

Yes Penguin this is my first, it's odd trying to get used to having to remember to take someone everywhere with you and trying to time a shower whil she is sleeping etc! Whopps about the petrol cap.

Impressed with you getting to schhol Bilb

DH has sold the birthing pool on ebay last night. Feel a bit sad now that I will not get my water baby :(

Cheshire are u not planning any more in future?

We had said that we were stopping at 2 as house won't fit more than that (nor would our salaries) but we were driving to softplay the other day(v close to hospital) and I was really upset at the thought that we'll never drive that road again with the excitement of a new baby coming

To be honest Edward I didn't think it would sell as there are loads on there and I let DH put it on because I felt bad that he spent most of the morning filling it (as the hose buggered up) and then keeping it warm, then cooling it because it got too warm etc etc. So I thought if we had another (which we have already been discussing) I would feel mean asking him to arse about with the pool again.

I think maybe next time I will just have to go with the cushions in the bedroom, which worked well this time and the bath maybe. Although I could try and persuade him to buy another I suppose

This is a bit epic and almost deleted it and please don't worry about responding I just needed to type it all out. Jessica is 12 days already and growing fast, health visitor 1st visit tomorrow so I guess they'll weigh her. Got newborn hearing test today. Managed preschool run with samuel and jessica yesterday tho it was a fluke and no idea how I'm going to manage 3 kids in morning. Dh only off next week and then I'm on my own eek.

Feel really bad for ds2 at moment because most of the time Jessica is being held by me. She literally won't settle with anyone else (incl dh ) or be put down. After 5 min of being put down she wakes crying. She seems to have wind, and poos are a drama. I know this is all normal but just feel so bad for other dc and Samuel is finding it really hard. I just end up in (quiet) tears not knowing how to manage it all. Late afternoon and bedtimes generally worse, tho yest she did sleep in Moses basket long enough to let me give Samuel dinner, bath and bedtime. Goodness this is a long post.

cheshire it sounds like our little ones are doing a similar thing with their latch and getting windy. Very frustrating.

I?m glad you asked the question about petrol, I had been wondering the same.

My DH went back to work on Tuesday and the last two days I managed to get dressed etc quite successfully! Today is another story though??I seem to have a baby permanently attached to my boob. I can? help but think it?s for comfort at the moment, there isn?t a great deal of decent sucking going on.

Sorry you?re having trouble with bf pink, hope that it improves for you soon. Glad to hear that you?re enjoying being a mummy again though.

Hugs awen. I am finding one enough of a struggle so am completely in awe of anybody that has more than one.

Aww awen so sorry you're struggling ((hugs)) mhairi's also been like that today and yesterday. Have u tried swaddling her and wheeling her back and forth in pram that has just worked for me.
Hope it passes soon for you

aww I'm jealous of the first timers I would love to be getting up at 10/11 again. I did it shamelessly.

DS is a holder, we get to put him down for 20/30mins here and there which enables me to get us dressed in the mornings and normally dinner prepped in the afternoon. He too really struggles with wind and due to the clock change he's crying/cluster session occurs at dinner/DD bedtime which is a bit annoying but nothing too bad while my DM is here. If I'm doing stuff he goes in the sling e.g. chopping veggies or with DD in the park, he's fine there and if moving in the buggy so shopping.

I think I recall that peak crying is around 6-8 weeks

I'm not dressed yet as me and DS slept in while DM took DD food shopping, brilliant and awen that's no where near epic, don't worry

Hi All,
Joining you now on the p-n thread.

Don't think I'm having a great day mood-wise today. So tired and feeling guilty about feeding. It's such an ordeal. For reasons which I will elaborate in my birth story when I've done it (I'll post on a-n thread) but in a nut shell he is not getting enough on the boob alone, Seb is having a mix of breast and formula. I feel so bad about this and it doesn't help that my MiL yesterday (ex-midwife and mum of 5) made a comment while we were giving him his bottle that she thought he should be on the breast full time. I already felt guilty enough as it is and burst into tears after she left. It doesn't help that my SiL (her other DiL) had a baby the day after me and is b'fing full time.
He just never seems satisfied after feeding on the boob and of course you never know how much he has had, which caused all the problems in the first place which could have been very serious. I've got a pump that I need to start using and I used an electric one in the hospital but didn't get a huge amount out. I'm not really leaking much, just a few drops. It doesn't hurt as much as it did (thank god for Lansinoh) but it still a bit painful.
Plus my stitches are infected and it still hurts one week on.

tally I am using an sns (supplemental nursing system) by medela as I have hypoplasmic breasts and its honestly amazing. My lovely son gets all his food at the breast but it is half formula. You can get them on amazon or from 'express yourself mums' for 20 quid. I got it after feeling horrific bottle feeding my daughter - this now is such a nice positive experience in comparison. It has the benefit of increasing your supply as well. I hope this helps. But if you do have to bottle feed it really is ok. Last time someone said to me "food before morals" its more important that our babies don't starve! Sometimes we push breast feeding too much. I am medically not able to produce much milk but have still been made to feel guilty.

On another note I'm feeling tearful tonight. Feeling cross that my husband is using paternity leave to lay in and generally have a holiday. While I cook, clean and take care of the kids. Grrrrr.

countrymama u need to get him told! Hope he pulls his weight and gives u a break before he goes back!

I now can't seem to stop thinking about the fact that mhairi will be my last baby, it's getting me down and actually now miss my bump as a
Result (despite the fact that I hated it when pg) does anyone else mourn their bump?

I think mhairi must be going through a wee growth spurt today she's not feeding for as long as usual but not giving my breast a chance to fill up either, she was feeding for around half an hour at a time every 3 hours or so but today it's been 10 mins at a time every hour. And I'm strugglin to get he to sleep without being held!