October 2011 - Let the poo obsession begin

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Come chat, moan, boast (by stealth of course), vent, rage, relax, worry and be reassured. Welcome to all the new babies. Stats thread here

*never take more than 3oz

Cheshire, I'm jealous, hope I get a night like that soon!

I stopped expressing because it seemed Leo was fussier on days that I did, and I put it down to supply. I think if you keep it up your supply picks up enough to handle both needs, not sure how long it takes though.

I clearly spoke too soon about the breakthroughs as they don't seem to have made much difference to the pain in the latch - when the latch happens (despite the leaflet saying almost all women see an improvement within 24hrs). I am getting quite desparate and upset now. Midwife supposed to be coming today but hasn't appeared yet. God bfing can be isolating when its not going well. I tried for 4 hours last night to get a non-painful latch and it didn't work.

I think I need a BF counsellor now.

Oh scallops sorry that you're having such a tough time. Definitely see if you can meet with a breastfeeding councillor to see if they can help.

Just had first visit from health visitor and E is now a whopping 10 lbs 9 oz (put on 13oz in six days - so no wonder I'm doing nothing but feed feed feed!)
Still no better last night but hoping it will get better tonight it can't go on forever can it!?!

good luck with it scallops i hope you get it sorted soon.

i am currently worried that i am over feeding J. he seems so so hungry, then throws up (sometimes it seems like everything he has eaten) then is hungry again shortly after. is being sick related to wind? i am ff, so i know overfeeding can be a problem....

Thanks for all your support btw. I am becoming a bit self-absorbed and feed-obsessed so forgetting the general nicities!!

Midwife arrived and we managed a successful feed (with a little uncomfortableness but not too much pain). 10 mins after which DS2 did a massive burp and promptly fell asleep!

Have spoken to a BF counsellor and will be seeing her on Monday. We are also looking at biological nurturing and have a strategy now of not letting the feeding process go on beyond half an hour - so if he doesn't feed/latch/it's painful just go to cup. Also after seeing a BF counsellor if things haven't improved then we are going to bottle with expressed milk. I have all the milking equipment (!) from DS1 and know I can do it. I already have about 3 litres of milk in the freezer so we are already ahead of the game in that respect.

Hope everyone else is coming along OK - getting a bit more sleep or feeding is working for you.

scallops have you tried leaning over when you're feeding so that gravity keeps the nipple in place. It's what I've been doing today and it seems to help. It's still taking a few attempts to get a decent latch, but it does help him to keep hold.
I've got big boobs, so it's quite easy for me, and I lay S on his back on my lap rather that tummy to mummy which makes things easier too because he's a heavy weight so tummy to mummy is hard anyway.
I hope you get to see someone soon though.

I'm hoping for a better night tonight. S woke at midnight, then 2, then 3, and stayed awake till 6. He doesn't normally care about being dirty (which is a good job as he poos so much) and I avoid changing his bum in the night as he usually howls and wakes everyone, but I was desperate last night, and it seemed to calm him down.
DH was on the sofa anyway, but thankfully he got up this morning so we both got DD ready for school, then I went back to bed and S didn't wake up until 11! I want the 5 hour stretch in the night, not during the day!

Annoyingly today was the one day I really wanted to go out. There was a sling meet locally and I wanted to see what different carries I could do with my wrap and try out a mei tai. My Mum is making me one so I want to check how to use it.

Scallops, I hope things improve for you soon, hang in there!

One quick comment, you maybe already do this, but do you hold your boob in the right shape with one hand, and keep a good grip on LO's head with the other so that there is no slipping off?

Pebble 13oz in six days!!!! . You are a feeding machine.

Emma P throws up sometimes, although more recently it has happened more often, she is bf so I cannot comment on the over-feeding but once she been sick she wants to feed again because her tum is empty I guess.

Penguin thanks I will check the link

having been spoilt by my mothers presence for the last 10 days, I'm a bit daunted by the two under two prospect tomorrow (although at least it's Friday). Now if DS would go to sleep...

Leo is 3 weeks on Saturday, just had Jim weighed and he's still not back to birthweight. He has gained just 2oz since Saturday (5 days).

So all this fussiness is really just hunger

I'm feeding him very frequently. Had this with other DS's too. I seem to make skimmed milk

Midwife suggested we weigh him again on Monday and she might refer him to a pediatrician just in case...

A has just started wanting feeds every 2 hours or so in the last couple of days - I don't really mind though as now he's waking less at night! It does mean that I have to bf when out more often as his hunger is more likely to catch me when we go out. I am feeling a bit like a bad mum today though - we went to meet DH and my sister for lunch and it was a rare hot day, I tried to keep him out of the sun but as I got burnt myself from sitting in it for an hour and walking around in it am worried that his pink cheeks are sunburn. Does anyone know if you can put regular sun cream on babies or is there a special one?

Emmazed I asked my midwife the same, she said that them vomiting is a self regulating thing babies do to make sure they don't eat too much and not to worry. I was concerned as had a couple of massive projectile vomits earlier in the week.

I am now desperate for sleep that's now 2 nights in a row M has fed from 1.30am to after 4, I'm currently on 3 hours sleep for the past 2 days!!

Also not sure if it's tiredness or start of PND but I feel like I've forgotten how to play/interact with ds poor boy spends all his time in front of tv. Can't be bothered talking to dh either so again sit in silence watching tv or playing with phone!
Feel like a terrible mum and that I've failed ds is anyone else feeling like this and do u think it's just exhaustion?

Hope every1 is well and haven't caught up on thread for a day or two so sorry about me me me post

jnice on the positive side he is gaining not losing weight x

Penelope you can get baby sun cream from boots /pharmacies

edward I think you are exhausted as everything that's been happening lately has just got too much, can you express a bottle and when dh is home give him the baby and ds and go to sleep for a couple of hours. With ds it's so hard what I try and do is when girls are asleep do 15 minute play time with ds - often that's enough and he'll go off and play after we've started the game or if tv helps (which it does ) then maybe curl up on sofa with ds and snacks and cuddle up watching one of his favourite films xx

Oh and we have lots of sick here and projectile vomit always in the early hours of the morning - today it was Ayse Rose who whilst led on her back threw up and it shot put like a rocket all over me and my bed but missed herself somehow!!! so I've had to strip the bed again and now we are downstairs again so dh can get some sleep xxx so frustrating when you see all that lovely breast milk coming back up!!

Morning all.
edward I was starting to worry about pnd too as I was just SO tired after a week of two to three hours sleep max every night, but have had some sleep! and suddenly I feel like a new woman not depressed at all I have energy and can smile! Hopefully you are just exhausted too and it's not pnd. As BB3said if your DH can do a feed or someone else can have DC's to let you sleep in afternoon maybe it will help?
My miraculous night is all down to DP taking E downstairs at ten thirty when he wouldn't settle and staying with him until he got him to sleep at midnight, then he got back up with him at two am and settled him again (while I slept through it ) without a feed so I then woke at four when he cried and he had a feed then and again at six but each time a short feed then asleep again so I have had about 5 1/2 hrs unbroken sleep and another couple of hours this morning as well. More than I've had since he was born.
Sorry for mammoth post who knew sleep could be so exciting! X

That is true BB3 - there is a bright side

I have a question.....

For the last few nights M has gone 6 between early evening and midnight feed, but is still waking every 3 hours otherwise (so 3am and 6am).

Dh reckons we should wake him during the evening after 3 hours, to see if we can get him to sleep his 6 hours during the night instead of evening. My head is saying, okay, might work, but my heart is saying, never wake a sleeping baby!

What do you reckon? Should we try it (and risk no 6 hour stretches at all!) or just let him find his own rhythm...

Had good night on Wednesday as Jessica fed 10.30, 3am and 7.30am. It was a fluke I think but welcome one nonetheless

Last night not bad with Jessica, 11pm 2am and 5am, but ds2 fevered and coughing. Poor boy and as we are all in the bed Didn't get much sleep but at least I was on hand for him. Really hope J doesn't catch it.

Tmi I thought I'd stopped bleeding as just a bit of old blood but a bit smelly. This morning I was losing small clots and loo water very dark red. Also had some abdo pain but not constant. Not sure of normal or not.

Edward - hugs. I've worried about PND too as had with ds1 and I'm having problems getting over lack of support at birth (we were moved to private room on another ward, told not in labour and left on our own I was in agony and dilating fast from 2-10 in 2,5 hours). Also feel crap for ds2 and not able to give him time he needs. Think it's just tiredness and hormones as for me PND had alot of horrible symptoms. X

amazing the difference a bit of extra sleep makes pebble and edward

I have so much respect for all of you who have other DCs to think about. The only reason I'm holding onto my saniity right now is that I only have Max to think about!

bb3 have had projectile vomit and projectile poo here in the last 24 hours. I didn't know so much poo could come out of someone so small.

Happy Wedding anniversary bb3.

Am off to our local war cemetery for the Remembrance Day ceremony. Trying to walk off the millions of biscuits I seem to have eaten this week...

Engel - I used to dream feed ds2 and if jessica was asleep at 10/11pm I would prob dream feed her too but as it is she wakes then.

I second the dream feed it was great with ds!!
In fact I might try it with M tonight!!

Ooh yes happy anniversary BB3!

How do you dream feed?

While they are asleep offer breast to them, generally they'll snaffle

sometimes they're in really deep sleep and then you do the joggle dance to rouse them a bit