Feb 2011- the one where Jane gets married and ALL the babies sleep through!

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Hello everyone!!

reastie I think you are right to stop for a bit.When i did Dilly eventually sorted herself out.Id aggree with 40 change the bedtime totally.When we went away and D had 2 late nights hence was easy to settle overnight as so tired,and then slept later,it seemed to break the habits she had formed,i will be using it again if she slips.Also as you say at this age you can never tell if they are ill,hungry or teething.I felt better once id decided it wasnt for us at the time and freed me up to try other things.Have a mooch on the sleep boards i picked up lots of tips and also there are people who are lucky to get 2 hrs a night with a 2 yr old so it puts it all in perspective haha.
Enjoy your day today and give her lots of cuddles,and feed her to sleep guilt free

How do people buy pumpkins already?they stink after a few days.

Just realised how late it is, we are meant to be going on an educational trip to the museum today so better crack on I suppose.

Thanks for support re SIL, ledkr how awful for you but good to know you managed to BF afterwards. I think she had bleeding, and had a retained bit of placenta and infection. I've not heard any more as DH is at work but will see how things are tonight.

ledkr despite STILL only going backwards N does tend to migrate to the fireplace and pick out all the coal. He also goes anywhere there are wires, and likes to wedge himself under things - I don't think this is purpose though!

tad at return on your investment

Well the weekends plans are museum if we get our acts together today, need to do a CV and letter (still haven't got round to it), church tomorrow, then Zoolander's photoshoot in the afternoon. Also need to cook some food for Nate as he has now regressed and decided he can't be bothered to feed himself after all and would like to be spoonfed all the time thanks

Oh god oh god oh god

AWFUL DAY ALERT

Went to get the boys hair cut and once they were done I took them Ll into Costa for a dink while we waited for dh to get his done. The waitress brought the drinks over onto the table, and helped me get the highchair sorted as I was carrying Mikey. Was trying to get Mikey into a high chair when he managed to get his arms through mine in order to grab my cup which he pulled and got freshly poured boiling coffee all over his legs. He absolutely screamed his little head off - the whole shop came to a standstill, the waitress was getting ice, someone was running the tap to get the cold water onto his legs in the loo, someone else came to sit with Owen who was hysterical because Mikey was so upset. I was in tears, it was just awful. We stripped his clothes. Someone went to get dh who came running in and we just took him straight to A&E which fortunately we were right next to. He just didn't stop screaming, we just ran him straight in, dh waited to book him in and they wrapped him in clingfilm. He was thrashing and crying so much and them we realized how bad it was, all down his leg, the inside of his thighs where the nappy must have absorbed it in, and his arm too. They gave him calpol and morphine and it just took ages to calm him down. He now has his little arm and leg/foot all bandaged up and dressings on his thighs, the blisters were just horrid, his skin was peeling away. I kept crying as I feel so awful. I know dh is holding me entirely responsible (which is right) but it's worse as he hasn't even said don't worry or are you ok or anything. It was just such a horrible accident and just wish I could have stopped it. I feel sick, he was so sad and now he is asleep because he is so drugged up.

40Shrieks Ah pet, I've been exactly where you are now with Olivia and tea. You all did exactly the right thing, the cold running water, straight to A&E, Mikey has had exactly the same treatment as Olivia, he will be fine.

You are in shock, that horrible piercing screaming, no sound like it. Are you sure dh is blaming you, I know when it happened with O, I felt so dreadful that I wanted people to be horrible to me as I felt it was all I deserved. It was a horrible, frightening accident that could have happened to anyone and has happened to a lot of people. Sending you a big hug and this time I do know exactly how you feel xxx

Ah thanks wigs you always know what to say. I guess maybe I am being a bit precious, I just wanted him to give me a hug or say something nice, he knew how distraught I was. Anyway, it's Mikey that's hurt, not me. Poor baby, such sore little legs with his fat toes point through the bandage. How old was O when it happened? Had she any scars? Does she remember? I know M won't, just wondered

Olivia was older, about 14 months or so, she was standing beside me in our living room and I had put a cup of tea in the middle of the table, so she couldn't get it. She pulled at a bag strap, that I don't know, toppled something else and the whole huge hot mug of tea managed to scald her from the bottom of her neck to the top of her bottom, all down her torso. It was first thing so she was only wearing a vest. She doesn't remember a thing about it, and she didn't scar at all. In fact she had to go and get the bandages changed a few days later and they were able to tell me there and then that she wouldn't scar.

It was awful, awful, I just felt so responsible and horrible - the Drs at the hospital were fab as was my own practice nurse. Whats worse is my Mum has terrible scarring from a very bad burn that she received as a child and we were always brought up to be so careful about burns. Just shows that is just a awful, split second accident that nothing can be done about.

Oh if dh doesn't say anything to you about it, I would bring it up, just tell him how frightened and helpless you feel, don't let you worrying about him blaming you fester into resentment. Honest Mikey will be fine, its always worse on the parents.

40, what a horrible thing to happen, so sorry for you and Mikey. You did absolutely the right thing. Happened to Edward too recently but luckily we were just about to put him in the shower anyway so he was ok. Hope he sleeps well for you.

We mainly go to pumpkin patches for the hay rides, petting zoos etc., and sit the pumpkins on the porch. As it's pretty much freezing overnight they don't smell for ages. We might pick up a couple later on for carving as they collapse quite quickly!

Hope tea time is going well for everyone. Sammy's having a waffle for breakfast and is shovelling it down!

40, what an awful thing to happen, I'm so sorry it happened to you, but it could happen to any of us. Please try not to feel bad, I know that's easier said than done! I'm sure dh doesn't blame you but is just shocked too. Mikey won't remember anything and as you acted so quickly I wouldn't thinkit would scar at all. Keep us updated with how he is xxxxxx

Gosh 40 i am all emotional reading this how terrible for you,the same happened to my baby sis when she was about the same age,i was in the pool cafe with her and she pulled tea on herself,i ended up jumping into the pool with her and then straight to a and e whichch is next to the pool.She had no scars either thank god,imagine me a 15 yr old having to tell my Mum!
I have had similar incident with the others too,ds1 fell downstairs and had sunstroke and ds2 cut his leg open and i didt notice for hours we woiuld never ever deliberately harm our children so altho you feel guilty its not your fault and dh is just shocked even if he does blame you he will rationalise it soon.Poor baby.At least he has you to take care of him,ive nursed kids with burns with vile uncaring parents who probably dont give them much care once they go home.
How is he now?

Hey girls thanks so much, he is ok but he did get very upset when we had to reattach the dressing - he has one right in the crease of his leg next to his bits n bobs and it wasn't holding well. Dh went to tescos to get some bandages so we rearranged them a bit and he seemed delighted to get into bed after his bottle. He still gobbled his dinner down so that was good, mind you he didn't ever get his lunch!

I think me and dh have just been at each others throats all day which makes me sad, we should be 'pulling together' a bit more, you know?

I have now

Oh 40. What a horrid day. You did all the right things though and I have everything crossed that Mikey is all smiles again already and there'll be no lasting effects. It's just the type of thing that can happen to anyone - as wiggles bledkr and tad prove.

Got a few housy bits done here - finally tidied our bedroom and packed away maternity clothes and some of R's baby equipment. Swimming was lovely first thing and then went out for brunch (where the 40 incident could so easily have happened to us as DP insisted on having R on his knee when our hot drinks arrived) and now settling down for butternut squash risotto and X Factor (and Strictly).

Fingers crossed for sleepy babies....

Thanks choc I too am watching strictly and then recording xf so at least have Gary to cheer me up

40 oh how awful for you all, but yes completely agree it can (and clearly has) happen to anyone. You dealt with it so incredibly quickly so minimal chance of scarring I would think, well done you. DH must be shocked and upset, I suppose he needs to process things a bit but you're right, I'd just want a cuddle and him to say it's okay. Cuddle from me then, how's that?

choco right how do you prepare a squash? Whenever I do one I end up with hardly any flesh, I just can't do it.

tad we were in new england around this time last year (sobs at how life has changed), people made such an effort to make their homes all autumny with pumpkins and garlands. I'd love to do that to that to our house but nobody does it here do they? Maybe I'll start a trend.....where is american these days BTW?

I have some weird rash on my hands, very itchy with little bubbles under my skin, and my fingers are tingling. Actually quite painful to type. Righty, off to get some tea, DH at work as usual, N in bed for a change so might be able to watch something trashy without being judged by the boys.

40 how terrifying. Hope you and DH will get over the shock soon and M will be better in no time.

borg my mum and I get that, esp when stressed, you need some hydrocortisone cream :)

Yes, haven't heard from expat or byron either for a while, hope they're ok.

jane hope you're having fun

40 has everyone else has said it could have so been any of us. Hope you have settled now and you and dh have had some time to chat. When are you back for bandages changing? I think it is a mothers prerogative to feel guilty. Thomas cut his eyebrow wide open at my mil's house when I wasn't there. It was simply glued together. I felt bad that I had left him with her. They all spend loads of time there and they are brilliant grandparents, it was simply an accident. Bonkers!

Jane have fun! X

40 poor you. I can only reiterate what others have said - this is NOT your fault, it's just an accident. I hope when your DH has time to reflect on everything and calms down he does give you a big hug and the reassurance he should have done already. Sounds v much like my DH can be though

borg you could cheat and use butternut squash ready prepared from la supermarche

Thinking of jane tonight and hoping she is having a fabbo time. She deserves it for sure

deb you would be proud of me - still no heating on . We are freezing though and have decided to stick it on tomorrow.

ledkr re: pumpkins - my dad grows them in the garden and he picks them and stores them for weeks I think - maybe the supermarket ones have already been stored so they arn't designed to last v long

tad my coil isn't giving me a very good return on investment either - just as well it's the NHS' investment

We went to the antique shop and I fell in love with an antique farmhouse table for our play room. DH didn't like it so much so we made the shop a cheeky offer in the hope of getting it. They didn't accept so alas no lovely lovely table for me :(

Watching x factor - what is micha (can't spell) doing with that rap bit? Think I'm getting old as it was just plain bad to me (cher lloyd styley). And the judges love it so much . Makes me reminisce back to an board though when we moaned about cher every week

Would it be bad of me to admit that if I didn't have such a horrible pg and swear I could never manage to have another child I thought today I'd quite like another one now already

oh and deb we have all but given up on cc for now. She fed to sleep tonight and is in my bed now . Feel really down about going back to square one but really just couldn't do it with ALice not being right. IMO she's teething not a cold, but we shall see.

40shrieks hope you are enjoying Gary and that M has settled well. Mr W finally home, only 3 hours late [eyeroll].

jane hope you are having a fab time and are sticking the pace

Ah glad he's feeling ok.Ella just said "oh i wish i could just cuddle that baby now" talking about M. So i told her you would give him one from her.
We went swimming too Dilly was hilarious,dgs aged 2 ran off in the changing rooms and managed to get to the edge of the pool before i caught him,Ella said "ive never seen you run so fast Mummy" I really told him off,he knew he was naughty cos he put himself into time out Took girls to Mcds after,Dilly had some chips which i gave her guilt free cos she's not eating well at the moment.Shes been a moany old thing today,i managed to get into the kitchen and watched her,she looked around,saw nobody was there and started to cry,so annoying.

wiggs dh was just 2 hrs late tonight,narrowly escaping bedtime and cooking time,the bastard haha.

reastie im glad you have stopped,i kept feeling sorry for Alice im such a pushover.I bet she feels all chuffed all fed and in bed with mama.Maybe she will settle down on her own like Dilly did and wasnt Alice one of our best sleepers before?If not you will have to restart it.
Whats all this about another baby,when D isnt sleeping i always think thank god she's my last.

Im just waiting to see if Dilly repeats her midnight wake up again.

You have to do what feels right to you reastie, no condemnation or judgey pants from me. I say do whatever makes your life easier. I wouldn't say you'll be back to square one though, when we were at shows with Imy when she was this age I'd have to push her in her pushchair for naps (out all day) and often feed to sleep at night (in thin-walled hotel). She slotted right back into settling herself to sleep when we got back.

Help me be strong girls, DH is away, I've had my Galaxy and now Imy's chocolate buttons are calling me....

PUT THE BUTTONS DOWN AND STEP AWAY DEB . Just imagine the slim minnie you'll be if you do'nt eat them. Have a cuppa tea or sth instead

deb this'll put you off eating - Alice just burped in my mouth and at the time my mouth was open this much.

Seriously wondering about cosleeping right now - she's so hard to get into her cot - she sleeps on my bed but as soon as I move her the moaning starts. Don't want to make things even harder for myself in the long run though and I'm really scared of suffocating her with the duvet or her rolling off the bed