Feb 2011- food food glorious food, all over the walls and some in their tummies!

[debka]

Ok bit lame but started a nice new thread cos I put the 1000th post on the last one!

wiggles, Imy wet her knickers at the weekend because she couldn't get the knickers, shorts AND trousers that she was wearing down in time!

debka I just said crouch down to make it sound better , there's usually an eyeroll involved and its mine not As.

choc that's exactly how I felt yesterday - all the pain of 8 pinter with none of the drunken dancing fun.

Good job I'm stopping at 2 DCs, imagine how neglectful I'd be with a third

wigs dont get me wrong love,i dont pick her up when she cries,i just sing loudly it either stops her or i cant hear her.

I remember when Ella was 4 she woke me up at 5am wearing a purple party dress and wellies to tell me she wasnt going to school today
At the moment she likes to dress in shorts and cowboy boots,she says its Sassy! I wont let her to the park like it cos im worried its provocative,isnt that a sad sign of the times eh?

reastie the jacket had arrived, the postie delivered it to my neighbours house. No Im defo not wearing it to my hen!

wiggles no rain here today thank god! We had our share last week, it poured every bloody day, all day, all week.

Stick it on e bay jane someone with no style or a sense of humour will buy it

Well another night from hell here. She seems to have 4 good nights then regress again.
Woke at 1.10 wouldnt be settled so i gave her some milk cos she hadnt eaten much in the day. She took it sleepily and then fell asleep when it was gone.Sat on me for 5 mins then stayed asleep whilst i carried her down to her cot then woke straight up when i put her down.Refused to settle then at 3 dh took her downstairs and put her in the pram to sleep but she woke up at 5.30 grrrrr. Im bloody fed up with it now,the others were sleeping 12 hrs straight by now. I echo what someone said on here last week that you never imagined being up with a 7 month old. We are considering cc as we didnt do it last time cos she started to sleep again.
I think her biggest problem always has been that if she wakes for whatever reason she cant go back to sleep
Im dismayed to find i cant even use medised anymore either!

ledkr lots of sympathy from me. I would say if she wakes tonight do CC, not much else you can do unless you don't mind being up for hours . That was S's problem too, couldn't get back to sleep. She can now.

After her late night we didn't get a lie-in, I heard her at 6.45, left her half an hour but she didn't go back off so got her up.

Feeling a bit autumnal here after a run of lovely warm days, the leaves are starting to blow off the trees, I'm making chutney which is an autumn-y smell in the house too. Thinking about Christmas [excited], got some raspberry vodka on the go for presents already :)

Oh no ledkr, can I join you in the night from hell club, poor old dd was awake every hour from 12.30 onwards. She must be poorly b'cos I had to pick her up and rock her to sleep, then put her down reeeally gently otherwise she'd wake and cry, tears and all. I've never had to do that before (the picking up and rocking to sleep) so yep, reckon she's a bit ill. Seems better today, fingers crossed for a better night tonight.

Am loving all the stories of random clothes the girls like wearing

reastie beautiful photos, A has such a cute cheeky face :)

Ok Deb-remind me again,what do we do?She seems relentless with cc tho,can keep going for hours but i think there is a big difference from giving your baby a feed and them feeding and being awake for hours afterwards,its as if the contact with us wakes her up.
How did you deal with the feeling that she maybe hungry tho?
Also she seems to sleep most nights so i feel confused as to if i need to do cc iyswim?

ponyo Its a bit different if they are poorly isnt it?I feel quite sympathetic then but there was nothing wrong with her,she was even smiling at us at one stage and trying to get down for a crawl.I feel bad cos immjust not dealing with it at all,and feel so angry so dh is coping with most of it and then sleeping in the morning whilst i get up.I cant help feeling like one of thos horrible men that doesnt help in the night so poor woman does it all.

Why cant they just sleep

ledkr she won't be a baby forever, you of all people know this! When I first did the CC I fed S if she woke after about 1, but she stopped waking at all after a few nights, so now I wouldn't feed her in the night at all. (she often plays for half an hour or so in her cot before I go in lazy mummy so I know she isn't starving). The Experts say you should go in every 2, then 5, then 10, then 15, then 20 minutes but I find me going in just confuses her and starts her off again, so I just left her . One bad night (actually only bad till midnight), one not too bad night then she slept.

BTW you are not a bad man or woman you have PMT AND possibly PND AND you do all the looking after of Dills in the day and a damn good job of it too. Stop being so hard on yourself! Plus I bet you don't actually sleep when DH is sorting Dilly out either, so you're sleep deprived on top of that too.

Sorry you had a bad night too ponyo, hope she's better soon.

I can join the no sleeping baby club too - ALice was up twice last night - one at midnight then again at 3 (wasn't that exactly the same as ponyo ? Maybe they are all in on it together). After the hormone induced night of no sleep on sunday night I am not a happy bunny today.

Just been trying to hang up the washing and Alice has been 'helping' me by eating dhs (clean) socks and pants . I went to tesco this morning to get DH sone new PJs and came home with where's wally PJ trousers for him . I also came home with over £60 squid worth of stuff for our holiday next week

deb I have to say I think I agree with the returning upsetting them with cc - when we've ever tried it with Alice (which btw we didn't do it properly so it's our fault it didn't work) when we went in to reassure her it just made things worse when we left again

ponyo do you think a has what you had?

gave alice her first rusk at lunch with (gasp) the white stuff in. am i being thick - do babies eat rusks on their own like biscuits or should they be dipped in yoghurt or sth to soften them? it's just she took a massive bite and had a huge piece on her mouth she couldn't deal with so i had to fish it out as it was rock hard. i crumbled it up and put it on her tray and that worked well enough as she played with it for a while but i can't help but think it's not designed to be crumbled first

ledkr I am so rubbish with lack of sleep so I was being grumpy and pissed off this morning with dp, he does have to work though I can't expect him to be up all the time with her! It is horrible when they're poorly, she had big fat tears all the time she was awake :( Am taking her to the doc today cos she's not drinking much.

reastie sorry to hear about Alice, A was up at12.30, 1.30, 2.30 etc til 5.30 Not that its a competition I understand but this is a rareity for me! I think she might have what I had because of the four poos yest, yikes. When we first gave A a rusk we both panicked and fished it out b'cos they are so hard aren;t they Now I put it in a bowl and mash it with hot water then give it to her on a spoon, or just give her a whole one as she's pretty good at chewing them up now

deb how is S sleeping now, have you had to do cc again or was it just the one really bad night?

Docs appt at 3 today, sure I'm overreacting a bit but she's off her food and bottles and remember what delia said about babies can be dehydrated but you can't tell...

Afternoon

reastie No clue about the risks I'm afraid - I've not bought any so far as I like them too much myself and need no more temptation!

deb Think you have won the CC crown! Might be following suit soon. R has been restless although not crying at nights for about a week. Once she's better I'm going to be ignoring her ;)

ponyo Hope A's back on form soon. I had a peak at your pictures and I love her hair. It's so cute!

ledkr This age is definitely a hard time, you're right. You kind of assume once you've hit the 6 month marker they should be sleeping, eating, playing and giving you no trouble. I suspect it'll be a long time yet before we get any peace!

wiggles I would love to see a fight over chips between all the babies. R won't eat nice soft carrot sticks without gagging but give her a chippy chip and she's away. Weirdo.

Headache is finally disappearing and DP is hopefully going to try and get home at a reasonable time. Popped out to buy his birthday presents this morning and spent a small fortune...including underwear for me, let's see if he notices!

Anna was also up for majority of last night - although Mr W got up with her, I think its a conspiracy theory - they are all in baby AIBU laughing at us.

chocoroo I take the girls for a chippy after Sofias dancing class (yes I see the irony), she bounds out jumping up and down yelling "chippy time" The other Mums just love me

ponyo hope A is feeling better, I definitely think its teeth with Anna and she also has a cough which is wakening her, although Olivia is in rare form today, so have sent them to inlaws with Mr W for an hour. Both my parents and inlaws are away separately on their holidays this weekend so am having to arrange for them to say goodbye to their girls They are only going away for a week/ 2 weeks!!!

reastie Anna is fussed on raw rusks, she's rather have a custard cream but she likes them if I mash them in a little fruit or yogurt, the dog however loves them, even when they are fired at her from a great height.

ledkr hope D settles for you, agree with wise Debka take it easy on yourself ffs

reastie that should be "not fussed" obv

Hello chaps,

I've not been on for so long I dropped off threads I'm on and panicked!

at the baby sleep conspiracy. Speaking of sleep, congratulations to O wiggles, surely proof that the clever ones don't sleep [hopeful]

choc eek, Romilly sounds like a 1 year old, all the babies I know doing that in RL are loads older, no peace for you! Hope DH manages to get home earlier, my DH is just the same, he's 2-3 hours late most nights.

reastie love the photos, the leopard skin pants are brill. Nate has quite spindly legs and is quite wobbly on his feet, but likes standing holding onto things and ends up doing pelvic thrusts and stamps about to keep his balance but it looks really funny like he's dancing.

ponyo poor anya, waiting for update from the GP, hope all is well.

Was it reastie who asked about BF, N seems to be reducing them of his own accord and I'm getting quite full boobs at the end of the day. However, he does not wish to reduce his night feeds . He's just having less, I'm still offering the same no. of feeds, mainly to try to get him to have them in the day. but he won't. I give his rusks mashed with milk and fruit, someone said they're not good for them but they seem to have vitamins etc in them?

Hope all the ladies with PND are feeling better, ledkr great to hear you are doing well. What's the deal with the bitchy colleague? I had a bitchy colleague at work too, pregnant same time as me but made endless fuss - needed a special chair ordering, insisted on loads of breaks, missed loads of work. It was funny as I made no fuss at all, and got fawned over by all the others at work and got loads of presents when I went on mat leave and she got a card

Need to sort Ns bum out, he has me locked in his poo-dar (ray emitted from Nate as he stares intently at someone whilst trying to force a crap out. Whoever is in said poo-dar must change nappy)

Borg, poodar made me laugh. I was in Noahs poodar while he was pooing whilst eating his lunch. One spoonful in, one poo lump out! He put me off my lunch!
He refused his early morning nap today and slept from 11am til 1.30pm instead, shouldn't need another nap today now. Am thinking he's trying to cut from two naps to one!

Ledkr, Ponyo, Wiggles, sorry for your naughty non sleepers! I'd go cc all the way!

Hope you are all ok. Need to give Noah his bottle before Tesco shop and picking Ben up from nursery.

emski yes it's always around food time isn't it, really off putting!

Forgot to say ledkr Dilly sounds quite spirited, I have heard anecdotally that CC doesn't work on the willful ones as they just. keep. crying. and don't give in. I was thinking of it for Nate, but folk seemed to think he'd be too stubborn and I'm a total wuss with him anyway.

Well N is now only playing with labels on his toys but not the actual toys, he has broken stupid Sophie crappy giraffe and it doesn't squeak now, and he won't go in his jumperoo which means I can never do any cooking as that was the only way I managed it. We're "entertaining" tonight so I think it will have to be pizza.

Sorry for first comment being this but Borg you cracked me up with 'poo-dar'. C also stares very intently with slightly buldgey eyes when she is exerting herself in that direction. And Emski C does that sometimes too, how can they do both? Actually to be fair she does want to pause from actual eating to poo, but doesn't feel the need to...you know...excuse herself, leave the room, use the toilet, flush, wash her hands etc. I blame the parents.

Booo for all the non-sleeping babies, whether it be for illness or just nocturnalism. C has been up at night a bit lately with snuffles, but last night we got 7pm-5.30am, then dummy run, then she went back and we had to go in and wake her at 7.15. The early waking thing continues to be a feature, but I feel like if she hadn't been ill for so long lately, we might be seeing the back of it, in that she does go back to sleep quite happily if she's not full of snot and other nastiness, and often just wakes at 6.30 and just amuses herself anyway.

Good luck for anyone trying any new sleep methods tonight or this week (whatever they may be). I have no words of wisdom other than that you are doing the right thing to try and fix it, it's not just for selfish reasons (as in you want sleep), but it's also for them, as in it's good for them to learn to have a long stretch of unbroken deep sleep. We did a bit of gentle cry it out earlier on and have never looked back, two nights and it was basically fixed, apart from the slightly early waking.

This is probably annoying for people with non-sleeping babies, but C's pre-sleep activity is hilarious (we have video monitor so keep an eye on her until she's dropped off). She has her dummy (we ditched this early on but it's come back cos of teething) and her muslin, and first she twists her head up and back to the right so she's on her side, then over to the left, then back and to a few times, then she crazily waves the muslin around like she's doing some kind of semaphore or cheerleading type of thing, then plonks it on her face and sleeps. Tis v funny to watch, and v dull to read about I imagine but you've done it now so nerr.

DH is having his first day alone with C today as my Mum has her Tuesdays and she's away. He has annoyingly managed to get quite a lot done (all those things I thought I would be able to manage on mat leave), and will use this to crow over me for months I imagine. I think he's probably just more chilled than me, so has just got on with things, whereas I did a lot more strategising, especially early on. Also I think it is MMMUUUUUUUCH easier now she is a bit older, isn't it??????

Can't wait for hols now, sunshine and no work time, here we come.

Dx

delia I wonder what S does when she's going off to sleep, no video monitor here, but I can sometimes hear much thrashing around and she is always the other way round when I go in when she wakes up!

Lunchtime today S did the one spoon of food, quick strain, poo, another spoon of food thing. Then Imy announced she needed a poo and brought the potty from the bathroom right next to the table where we were eating and proceeded to poo (and wee) right there! Lost my appetite a bit after that...

borg nice to hear from you again :) glad all is well.

emski does Noah really go from 1.30 to bedtime without a sleep?? S would be screaming pile of red faced exhaustion by bedtime. She's having her last nap now.

omg i read a thread the other day about a baby born with Edwards syndrome who they had basically been told would defo die.It was so hard to read and the pictures of the baby were so heartbreaking she is stunning.
Well i just had a look and they got it wrong!! I cannot believe it. Its the best thing ive ever read on mn. Dilly has bee so tired today its untrue,she is having a nap now but i dont care,she can just have alate bedtime.Dh is gone to watch arsenal and Ella has brownies and like wiggs we will be doing a chip run on the way home so it suits me for her to be awake later,and she can have some chips and hopefully fill her belly.
The bonus of dh being so hands on is that dillys clingyness is top him.She was on my lap and then cried and put her arms up when she saw him. Mil said that fil always got up with the dc's so much so they didnt even bother calling her when they could speak-thats one thing they got right i guess.

NIce to se you &borg My colleague was the same,she was 3 months when i was 6 but couldnt do anything that i was still doing.I organised a fun day and worked so hard that i bled a bit that night,she was at home taking it easy.Anyway im glad that she is still fat haha.

Someone commented on my weight loss today,i was pleased but stil cant get into my size 14's so cant be that great.

Oh yes borg ive stopped worrying about what she eats tbh,she is having bubble and squeak tonight but eats it so im just glad about that.I have noticed she likes proper tasty food.

well, I know exactly what Alice does when she goes to sleep as she will only get to sleep on or with me

Love the poodar. One of my friends has a 1 yo and whenever we meet I swear this LO ALWAYS stares at me when she poos - she has the most intent stare and it really freaks me out

delia I got much more done when alice was small - I remember I painted all the wood work in our sitting room a few months ago while alice slept in her daily naps - no way could I do that now. Nope, I barely get anything done anymore.

sorry, got to dash, just done a super long walk to get alice to sleep and I'm not wasting her sleep time - got to get dinner on

x posted - where is that story ledkr ?

Btw will people stop moaning about pg women who can't manage anything - you're making me feel most inadequate

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/bereavement/1302293-My-newborn-girl-is-going-to-die-not-sure-what-to-do-now

I dare you not to cry.
Tis pissing it down now here.I dont get much done these days either.I managed to scrub highchair,hoover and mop floors,clean minging microwave,do dishwasher and give kitchen a good clean yesterday.I also did some washing-dont we get a lot now too?-. I felt so pleased but at 6 oclock last night it was all amess again so im not going to bother from now on.