september edd new babies arriving come share the ups and downs here

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Hello. Think i was first to deliver off the September EDD thread so waving to see if anyone else out there yet to join me :)
Had my 2nd DD on 26aug by C-sec. We now home but struggling with BF and baby lost 10% body weight in 3days. Started to top up with formula in syringe to try give cracked. Bleeding nipples a rest, but milk is starting to drip out now leaking everywhere! Hoping for a better night tonight after 3nights of hourly feeds and snatching 2-3hrs of sleep.
Anyone else struggling too?

Sciencegeekmum maybe you could have DS in bed with you whilst you feed him? This way you can both get to sleep. I know lots of people do not condone co sleeping but it really does give you an opportunity for more sleep.
DD was being a bit of a pain earlier today refusing to sleep during the day but clearly tired. I had to take her on a bus journey to get her to sleep! I really do hate buses. On our way home after collecting DS from school the bus driver closed the door on me!!! Public transport just isn't for me.
We're taking DS to kew gardens tomorrow to see Santa (again). I hope it's not too cold. Have many of you taken your LO to see Santa?

My DH refuses to sleep in the same room as DS. We were co sleeping at the start but DH sleeping downstairs and tbh I got lonely. Mind you the way DH complained when I told him it was his turn to settle DS maybe we would be better off in separate rooms!

Not going to take DS to Santa this year, figured it's too expensive for something he won't remember!

Summerpixie, I can't believe a bus driver shut his door on you! I'd be tempted to report him.

Wow. Loads of posts but can't catch up as on my phone. But wanted to say I didn't get worse :) so my birthday (today- shameless birthday plug) will be lurgy free in Whitby :) meeting oh's family today.

And I wanted to say welcome to sciencegeekmum :) we're a friendly bunch in here, sorry I've not read ur other thread

Just a quick one to say thank you re comments about brother and getting my ring. Hasn't really snowed - just a thick frost (well it did snow several times yesterday but didn't stick!) I do love the snow, but will be trapped in the house when it does as live on a hill. Haven't learned to drive the landrover yet! (And anyway, OH will need it to get to work if it snows).

My OH had his Xmas do as well... came home at 6, and went to bed at 6.30...!! So he may as well had been out all night. He also normally does the cuddly bit before bed and gets her down first, but I was very pleased that I had no trouble doing that too. And looked after his kids all evening as we have them this weekend (we normally just have them Sun evening to Friday evening, but have them this weekend too as their mum away). So have major brownie points to collect from him!! Mind you, as we're getting the ring this afternoon he has Major brownie points from me, so we're definitely quits!!

Sciencegeek - hope you had a better second half of the night.
Falalalalala - crap day! Hope you have a better one today, and to your friend's baby!
Summer - to the bus driver... how horrible of him
and... HAPPY BIRTHDAY to 100years - have a great day, and enjoy meeting OH's family and showing off your gorgeous LO!!

ps - Falalala - at least you got through your day... you can be majorly proud of that!!!

sciencegeekmum, I just read your other thread which made me very for you, you really have been through it haven't you?! I really hope that you're still able to stick to what tiktok advised and aren't getting browbeaten by your HV any more. I think you said you're new to MN; did you know that tiktok's a BF counsellor? She really truly does know what she's talking about. Have you got any BF support groups in your area? It might make you feel better to get feedback from another professional (or at least some peer supporters). Not all HVs know what they're talking about when it comes to BFing after all.

And perhaps you could explain to your DH that DS is more likely to feed and gain weight if you're able to co-sleep? Sounds like he's prob having a growth spurt and needs all that middle-of-the-night milk (our night milk is richer and more plentiful as that's when our bodies make more prolactin, it's good for milk production to have them near you during the night too; sorry if you know this already, not trying to be patronising!) Is your DS in another room then? Can you not ask DH to compromise and have a side-car cot arrangement on your side of the bed? Maybe he could wear ear plugs so he's not so disturbed by you both?

The side car cot thing works really well for me but I also make DH sleep in the spare room as (a) he is a champion snorer and I'm buggered if I'm going to be kept awake by him as well (b) his first reaction to being woken in the middle of the night is to shout "FOR FUCKS SAKE" and get really angry and (c) he has DS's monitor in his room and is responsible for dealing with him when he wakes up while I deal with DD. I have learnt from bitter experience and lots of 3am arguments that DH and I are better off in separate rooms when there is a baby in the equation!

Thanks all for the sympathy about yesterday. Had a really good night's sleep (one quick feed at 4am and a nappy change at 6am) and feeling much netter. I really wish that someone would invent a cold remedy that works and can be used when BFing though!

And grr to your evil bus driver summerpixie, what a twunt!

And big happy buffdy to 100years, hope you're having a lovely day. The sun's out big style here, hope the weather's nice where you are too.

Oh, DH has his Xmas do tomorrow . Last year he came home early so we could TTC and DD was spawned! Can't believe that she has been in existence for a whole year, even if only in embryonic form!

Happy birthday 100yrs! Hope you have a good day!

You're right, this is a very friendly bunch, I have felt very welcome here so much so that looking back at my posts it looks like I've whined a lot so far! I'm just venting...

Rest of night wasn't great, got to try and crack this sleeping malarkey, DS is so good during the day.

Falala thanks for your support. I've suggested the side cot to DH but he was adamant that would be a step back. I gathered that tiktok was an expert! Just had a discussion again about DS's weight with DH and his solution is 'give him more formula' despite me explaining for the millionth time that this would be counterproductive. I do find it hard to stick to my guns with the bf; constantly doubting if I'm doing the right thing for DS. But we'll keep going! Btw 'twunt' is now my new fav word!

Have a good day everybody!

Happy birthday 100. Hope you had a good day.
Sorry your DH is bring unreasonable about co sleeping Sciencegeekmum. I hope you come up with something that helps you all. Sorry I've not read your other thread but I will when I use the netbook ( I'm on iPad app).
So, exactly one year to the day on a freezing day outing to Kew gardens Aunt Flo has revisited me my cousins wife is 12mths pp and still hasn't had a visit from her. Oh well it was going to happen sooner or later.
The outlaws have announced that they'll come to visit tomorrow. However they've not specified a time as they are visiting the other GC first. I will be surprised if they make it as its a 2hr journey from theirs to the other GC then a 3.5 hr journey to ours. Fil doesn't get up until midday at weekends ! DH has told them our DS needs to be in bed by 7 and I won't be making dinner for them if they don't let me know what time they'll be here!
Oh, santa was a waste of time according to DH. About 20 kids with parents got taken into a room and had a little talk from Santa then got given a badge! Stingey!!!
Quick question: Does anyone remember using 'feinies'( crossed fingers) when playing tag as a kid?

Happy birthday 100yrsofChristmas
My Lo has just survived her first full on birthday party around 40 5yr olds, vloud disco, flashing lights and part poppers she was a star, I'd hoped to leave DD1 there and get some rest with babe but she wouldnt let me leave. It was lots of new friends from two classes at school. So ended up holding babe one ear into my chest and blanket over other ear as music vloud and she went to sleep for an hour of the two hour party! Gosh my head was spinning by the time we left....not my fav way to spend a sat arvo when sleep deprived!

Ssmile, babies are weird aren't they? We have a year pass to our local soft-play-hell so it's our default wet weather option and DD sleeps better there than anywhere else, despite the screaming, music and crazy siren noises! However, should I sneeze in the same room as her when she's napping at home, she wakes up and goes berserk!

Sciencegeekmum, twunt is a great word isn't it? I can't claim ownership, it's an MNism. And you are ABSOLUTELY, positively doing the right thing! Please please don't let anyone, even your DH, talk you into giving more formula if that's not what you want or what your instincts are telling you to do. Your DS is your specialist subject and you presumably spend way more time with him that your DH does. Please have the confidence to do what you feel is right and it really does sound as though you are doing a bang up job.

Perhaps your DH could be persuaded into room sharing if you casually left copies of the SIDS guidelines all around the house for him to read? I can't think of anyone, apart from Gina Ford, who recommends putting tiny babies in their own rooms. It's been very well proven in loads of studies that babies who sleep in the same room as their parents benefit in all sorts of ways and I think I'm right in saying that mums benefit as well by having lower levels of cortisol.

FWIW I put DS to bed in his own room when he was about 6 weeks old and then, after about a month of hell, added up how much time I'd spent in his room trying to settle him, compared to how much time I'd spent in my own bed and it was nearly 2:1! I promptly moved him back in with me and just co-slept until he was about 5mo (and binned my baby books and decided just to go with my instincts).

Have just been to see the village lights being switched on; DS loved it but DD not too impressed, I think she was a bit perturbed by being bundled up and taken out after her bath rather than just having a nice peaceful feed and bed.

pixie we did similar but called it "feinSies". It would work when playing It (e.g. if you needed to be 'safe' so you could go to the loo or had fallen over) and also for pinch, punch, first of the month (in the same way that saying "white rabbits" did). Where do these rules come from I wonder?!

Hurray, it's Saturday and that means the X-Factor final! Got it recorded so I can skip the ads and the rubbish bits. Who are we rooting for now? I like Marcus now that Mischa's gone but I think Little Mix might just clinch it. Not a big fan of Amelia 'the belter' Lilly although she does sound lovely in the M&S ad.

Happy birthday 100yrs
Welcome Sciencegeekmum, my lo does same as yours and will feed to sleep on me, is getting quite tiersome at night as when I move he cries and we start again.
Would love some snow as would give DH some days of work. I went out for a mums night last night only to think it was good that DH had not needed to phone as LO had jabs and was very clingy. Checked pohone to find it was in car and he had called saying DS would only have half ounce from bottle and could I come home - this was 2 hours after he had called. Felt awful and arrived home to find them fast asleep and the house looked like a tornado had gone through with nappies and bottles etc everywhere. LO fed very well then had an exploding poo all over the bed (think Calpol gave him funny tummy as had 4 more poos during night)
Snowy, lovely when you get that ring, enjoy showing it off.
Opps, gringy baby to attend to - bed methinks.

Thanks everyone :) had a lovely day. :) tired much now.

Falalala I thought the same about my LO. Chances are she was conceived a year ago today, although it was a pretty good weekend in DTD terms but there is no way it was earlier and I'm pretty sure she's a birthday conception. Makes a nice story anyway!

Off to sleep now. :)

Oh and just in case sciencegeekmum isn't aware #### means phone posting, just explains why we can't or haven't caught up with it all, because we want to be able to, can't, but don't want to look rude by not posting to everyone.

Ah the hash tags become clear now...

Summerpixie, I am not looking forward to aunt flo visiting, poor you! Hope the outlaws' visit goes well.

Falalala, thanks for your advice, I'll see what I can do over the next week or so to convince DH!

Ssmile, sounds like carnage at the party, well done on you surviving it let alone your LO!

Candrcane, thanks for welcome, hope your house is now looking homely rather than horrid! But at least they survived...

Right, off to bed quickly, need to catch some zzzzs before the LO wakes me up at 2am again (like Candrcane, it's not the feeding that bothers me - it's the fact he won't go back to sleep afterwards!)

Night all

Bah I missed x factor. Was shattered so had a nap. I caught Marcus and little mix and both were awful then I fell asleep. DH came back from leafleting and fixed the aerial in bedroom and woke me up with moving nappy packs around so I heard the one direction/jls carnage then fell back asleep. Seems like I didn't miss much anyway and now I am awake and enjoying wolverine
It's amazing how babies like to sleep through immense noise and then wake due to an adult sneeze ssmile. I remember DS crying every time I sneezed.
Feinies was a safe thing as well. I googled it and only found one entry. I think it may have been a London saying. I thought of it today as DS had both his fingers crossed.
Another childhood memory, again possibly a London thing, mint custard. Yum.

Just finished feeding, let's see if he'll stay asleep as I put him down...

Seriously, those of you with more than one child, how on earth do you cope? My hat's off to you ladies...

Just waiting for DS to wake up again.

I didn't have feinies growing up, grew up in Kent/Hampshire so maybe it is a London thing.

Afraid I don't watch x factor but from what people have been posting I'm glad I don't!

Night night again...

sciencegeekmum I really echo what falalalagirl said I too with DD1 tried to follow book GFord didn't cosleep had flipping awful time got no sleep and DD would never settle well. This time my DH is sleepin on sofa bed, baby sleeps in crib next to bed but half of the time after the 2am feed she won't settle I lay her on bed next to me she settles with in few minutes and I am getting SO much more sleep and rest. I'm feeding on demand to not to a schedule. My DH and I are both SO much happier as we are rested. It's only for a short time in our lives prob 6mths I expect. And we still enjoy our cuddles and nookie prob more than first time because I'm not knackered :o gd luck we your DH.

I've video x factor to speed watch later want amelia out and little mix to win but its vpoor this year. Much enjoyed strickly instead will watch on iplayer later too as DD1 loves watching it.

With your DH not we Doh!
I'm always on my phone so do struggle to remember what people have said :)

jimmijam glad u all ok there is a mobile MN on android phones now as mine keeps trying to take me to it.

On baby development front Lo is over 6kg now and really flexing her legs. Last night she scooted 2/3 of the way across the bed on her back! I had to hold her down to get her oin sleep suit :o she has also backflipped out my arms onto the bed. Plus gettin noisy now sits in her chair chanting grrrueter oooh arhh on loop until someone plays with her :) DD1 is now able to help more as she likes to sit by her chair as baby is only one left in the house who can't run away yet from her four year old sisters constant monologue on life :o on that basis I estimate baby will be crawling at 4mths out of desperation :o Heehee

Hope you all have lovely Sundays and nicklebabe finally has her baby, she is 42wks today and filled up two threads just waiting for baby to arrive (she is in childbirth threads)

Wow, loads to catch up on, and have just thought... dishwasher to empty, online shop to do, bottles to sort, washing to put on, shower to have... nah, I'll read through the posts and do a post myself!! It is a Sunday afterall (and yes, I'll get round to doing all that afterwards)

Sciencegeekmum - haven't read your thread sorry, but going on what others are saying, I'd have to agree and say go with your instincts and stick to BFing - And, this is from a mum who isn't BFing. If your LO is in another room I'm not sure how you are coping... It was bad enough just going downstairs to prepare a feed in the middle of the night... until my Dad pointed out we could take a flask of hot water to warm the bottle up in the night - and now are preparing the feed from the comfort of our bed!!! Good ol' Dad.

Ssmile - whey to your LO... She's the eldest on this thread isn't she, so I always look forward to what your LO is doing as she's normally the first to do something new!! My LO is really starting to kick about too... she's just done the equivalent of a marathon on the mat!! to listening to her sister's monologue!!! Incentive to get going I guess!!!

100years - sounds a good birthday... and yes, you've all made my think that it was about 12 months this week I conceived too... how weird! I remember that the night we probably conceived I was due to go out on a girly night out with friends, but it was soooo icy and about -5 degrees, that I didn't go... and thankfully as I'd have been too tired to DTD probably and wouldn't be here with my lovely LO kicking away!

Summerpixie - Aunt Flo visited about a month ago for me and again about 2 weeks later as I started on Cerazette and that means you can bleed every so often... but stopped now thankfully.

Re Strictly first - Thought Jason's Argentine Tango was brilliant... and Harry's vienniese waltz too. Looking forward to results tonight. And, I was actually disapointed that Amelia went out, and think Little Mix will win, but want Marcus too... but actually, not really that bothered - they'll all get contracts and songs out anyway... not sure why they bother with the first prize!!

Crap night... LO slept from 11 till 1.30, then kicked about and grunted loads, eyes wide open... settled for a little after her feed at 2.30, but not for long (although long enough for us to DTD he he he!!) Came into bed with us about 4.30ish, but again, didn't settle well. Feel like I didn't sleep from 1.30 till getting up - I'm sure I did a little, but feeling soooo tired today, thank god it's a Sunday.

Hopefully putting tree and decs up today!

Had a bit of a melt down earlier... I think because I've visited a couple of work friends this week who are grandmothers (you can tell I'm an old first time mum!!) who were looking after their Grandchildren - one was 9 weeks old and the other 7 months old... just made me jealous of the mothers who could drop their LOs with their mums for an afternoon or whatever... think it overwhelmed me a little that I haven't got that option (as I know a few of us on here don't for lots of reasons). But, nevermind, my LO's Grandad is brilliant with her (not that I can leave her with him) and I'm thankful my Dad is such a good Grandad! And my OH is also brillaint... and next Sat. night I'm hving a girlie night out so do have the option, just with my OH...!

Got the ring yesterday Feels lovely wearing it on the "special finger"... was very ironic... was coming out of the jewellers pushing the pram and meeting up with OH and his kids (they'd popped to another shop) and there was my ex-boyfriend!!! Not seen him in over 12 months... and the reason we split is because he wouldn't commit to having a baby and getting married... although kept saying he would, and having me hang on... well, there I was with everything I've ever wanted - a baby, a fiance I love more than anything and his two lovely kids... and seeing him on his own... felt so smug!!! I know that's naughty, but I did!! He did congratulate me on my LO though!!

Have a lovely Sunday everyone... !!

Teehee good on you sebs. I hope you gloated in your ex's face what you have now and what he missed out on!
Ssmile have you found DD is progressing really quickly the past few weeks? I think about 2 weeks ago DD head wasnt particularly strong but now she can lie down on her belly with head up in the bath. her legs are also extremely strong with her pushing down on her bouncy seat and arching her back right up when she is having a Barney! I still think my DS was more advanced at the same age though.
Last night blended into this morning. DS woke up because his duvet fell off the bed. Dd then woke up but refused to feed. Had a screaming fit then played with teat in her mouth. I think I got a total of 2 hrs after I posted last night. Thank god I had my nap. I think DD is teething. She has look all the time and refusing to feed and very short naps along with smelly poops and always chewing her hands. Not so much dribble at the mo but dribbles out her milk straight after sucking it in! Why is she teething so early????!!!!
I think I'll be putting her into the jumperoo soon with the way her arms and legs are flailing at the moment.
DH just text me to tell me his parents will be here around 4. I still need to go tesco! Eeek. CBA to tidy up though lol.

Summer, iirc from DS, babies start having that teething look around now because their gums start hardening in preparation for teeth but it can still be months before they start cutting them. DD is doing exactly the same and quite often wakes up with a bit of a dribble rash. She's also being a bit fussy about feeding and I think I read somewhere that their teeth can move around in their gums and make their presence felt for quite a while before they come through. However my mum tells me repeatedly about how I had two teeth by the time I was 4mo so I guess it can happen at any time.

Snowysebs I am of your ring. My fingers are still too chubby to get my engagement and wedding rings on. DH is wearing my engagement ring on his little finger

Pixie feinsies was maybe a southern thing as I grew up in Devon and we had it there. I remember seeing Delboy on Only Fools and Horses calling it "fainites" and that's in the Urban Dictionary also this is a funny thread about the regional variations

Ssmile, my DD has also got incredibly vocal in the last fortnight and sits in the corner blabbering away to anyone who'll listen, increasing in volume until we pay her attention. I think it's her equivalent of DS's "lookatme, lookatme, lookatme, LOOK AT ME!!!"

Sciencegeekmum, I was terrified of being left alone with both DCs and I really didn't think I'd cope. There are some days where the sheer bloody grind of dealing with two grizzly little people is almost overwhelming but most of the time it's fine. By the time you've had one kid you're more confident and you know that they're not that breakable really. I am much more laid back this time around (but still suffering from PND again though). I used to still be in my dressing gown at 1pm most days after having DS but now all three of us are up, fed, dressed and outside the nursery gate at 8.45 every morning!

sciencegeekmum gosh I've just read your feeding post you have had crap time of it, bloody well done for hanging in there with the BF. Hope it gets easier now and little one gains slowly.
falalalagirl hope you doing ok managing the pnd. I too find the "i have to get to school on time" is a great motivater for getting up and getting on with the day. I enjoy the walk to&from school as it half hr exercise and then if I end up doing nothing else that day at least I achieved that :)
Anyone else been following nicklebabes live birth its kept me checking my phone all day vexciting :o baby is nearly here....

Ssmile, thanks for the sympathy, it still feels never ending and I'm looking forward to the paediatrician appt to finally get some answers beyond "give him formula"!

Snowy, at seeing your ex! Like Falalala I too can't wear my rings yet, feels weird. Must be difficult to see your friends with their grand kids but it sounds like you have a lovely new family unit with your fiancée. Any plans for a wedding soon? Or are you going to wait a while?

Summer, my DS is also dribbling, chomping at his hands and being slightly more distracted at feeding. Mil thinks he's teething as my DH got his first tooth at 14weeks which we hit tomorrow. I'm more inclined to agree with Falalala that it's stealth teething, we won't see them for weeks yet! Not sure about how his movements doing, haven't done too much tummy time as he screams so much! Hope it went well with your pils.

Falalala, good to know it gets easier! that you have pnd, it's a real struggle, isn't it? 'Baby blues' is such an infuriating term as it really belittles the emotions you go through. Every day it gets a little better for me, hope it gets better for you too.

Off to do the night routine, last night ended up not too bad as he went to sleep shortly after the last post I did, and stayed asleep until half 5. I really don't mind getting up to feed him, but only if he goes back to sleep after! Best wishes for you all tonight...

%23%23%23%23%23 evening peops. Lo still awake and grumbling in Moses basket next to me. Seems to be feeding non stop so on a big growth spurt ( twelve and a half weeks now) did give him some formula tonight as he just seems so hungry and I had had a couple of glasses of wine (alcohol reduces milk production) - helped a bit but he is feeding again !
Sciencegeek - haven't read your thread but agree with advice given on here so far. Tictok is a star and helped me with her advice in the past. I am ebf (apart from 3 bottles in 3 months!) - so much easier to have baby near to you and also makes such a difference with sleep. This is the third baby I have breasted and the easiest to date - all because I am co-sleeping with lo and no dh as he is downstairs with other dcs. Do what's best for you though and feel no guilt because it really won't help you.
Happy birthday 100years. Summerpixie - I so miss kew gardens - lived there with my dd 1 and ds1 when I lived in London. Hope you had a good visit from the inlaws.
So tired so have to crash, apologies for not responding to you all - fairy sleep dust I'm my eyes !