Sept 08- The threenagers have arrived - Advanced negotiating and crowd control skills required

[DebiTheScot]

Sorry Meglet if you wanted to start the thread with your title but I thought I'd best do it while there was still one space to post the link to this one on the last one.

Well done NC and a lovely name as well

Welcome to the world Rosa! Many many congratulations NC

Digi- have you spoken to your MW's about pushing? If not I would suggest it would be a good idea to. It's not unusual to not have the urge to push, and a lot of people would suggest that if you and the baby are ok, it is ok to not start pushing straight away if you don't have the urge. Maybe it's the body's way of getting some rest before you start the next stage?

I've been up since silly o'clock with baby I

Welcome Rosa - lovely name :) my sister had forceps twice!

Digi I never got the urge to push first time, 2nd time I did a bit, it wasn't overwhelming though! The first time my 'active labour' was hours, the second time officially it was 6 minutes (it was actually longer than that as I started pushing before I told them)

Congrats NC and welcome Rosa!

Dd1 has been charging around in her new dress-up outfit - she swerved snow white for superman, and if she'd had her own way, she would have slept in it tonight .

Dd2 is becoming a pickle for going to bed so hoping it's just another blinking phase. carrie we are planning a very low key birthday tea for dd2's 1st birthday next month. A bit different from pfb's party but a little party nevertheless!

NC HUGE congrats on your beautiful new DD. Enjoy and well done for having what sounded like a great birth.

I have woken up to find Victoria Beckham can make me feel guilty as she's been gushing about bf her DD. Damn the woman! (Just jealous).

Really? She didnt bf the boys did she? (not that it matters.........) Apparently they want more dc!

Oooooh congratulations NC!!!! What wonderful news!

someone with some wit and imagination needs to think up a new thread title

So best I don't make up a new thread then. No talent. :)

Bec as far as I know, she didn't bf her boys cos MrB made a big fuss about her wanting to try bf with this one. Damn the woman - 4 flamin c-sections and she can manage to bf. I feel useless

Youre not useless MRSA she had private care, nannies and tons of family around whilst they were little. And the c-sections were all elective so she had better pain relief and knew what was going to happen. I bet she would feel upside dopwn if she had actually attempted labour.

Robyn is feeling rough again, she was sick yesterday and her temp keeps shooting up. SHe was a nightmare to get to sleep last night and then woke up at 1am screaming for a drink and I then had to get into her bed to calm her. She did eventually sleep but evrytine she coughed or moaned I leapt up withthe sick bowl just in case. SHe looks better now but she will have to have tomorrow off nursery to recover.

Not much of a valentines day, Robyn off sick and I am spending the morning being shown around the maternity unit so I can go and support new mums there.

mrsa VB has had full time help since her children were born...maternity nurses, nannies, cleaners, cooks, etc Most of us have to pootle along doing the best we can with little or no help....need I remind you what you have just been through?

Remember...comparison is the thief of joy xx

yay! Congrats nc!!! Beautiful name too.

mrsA what the others said about VB having shedloads of help. She is a wealthy woman who never had to walk to the fridge for a snack, pop to the supermarket or turn the washing machine on whilst recovering and establishing bf. It's a different world. She isn't supermum, just rich.

bec I love that quote.

Congratulations nc

I hope you're all well. Im around lurking in the back round

I think Robyn is feeling better now. SHe managed nursery on Tuesday and swimming today but is now coughing and her chest is wheezy.

I had a fun day on Tuesday. I had my ward induction for the breast feeding peer supporting. It was nice to look around where Robyn and Lucy spent their first days. Even more so as I wasn't worrying about impending birth. We went upto Nicu as well which was fascinating and very noisy with all the beeping alarms. Might not get to go up there much but am still very excited about going into hospital to help out.

Help - how can I cheer up ds who is going through a very insecure phase, has a lurgy, and keeps saying 'I'm very sad' and trying to hit me and MrNC - and of course has acquired a baby sister, who he actually seems to be quite chuffed with, but it's his parents he's furious with.
So he's punching and kicking me loads and there's a limit to how many time outs he can have before breakfast and he won't say sorry at all, and then he'll come and lie on me and burst into tears. Trying to reassure him and praise him when he's not being a nightmare but I feel terrible.

R at least is being pretty good, feeding loads and sometimes even sleeping for a while...

Oh nc Poor you and poor A.

Firstly...totally normal behaviour from A.

Secondly...not sure what you can do that you arent already doing!

Perhaps get him a book? Ds1 had one before Toby arrived called "little Tigers big surprise" but there are loads on the market to help dc struggling with the reality of a new sibling...check out amazon.

Also....ignore ignore ignore (when you can) and praise praise praise....its the only thing that works long term IMHO.

Good luck!

Ds1 had a hospital appt today and had to have a blood test and he was so good and didnt cry

We were talking about egyptians on the way home and he was talking about "the cat in the big hat" and it took me ages to figure out he meant the sphinx!!!!!

thank you bec - as I always need to remember, another day is different. so despite A being upset at 5am for ages, he then woke at 8 happily, got taken to nursery by his keyworker, was apparently very happy all day and chose to draw a picture of his sister, and has been delighted all evening since he found out I was taking him to the Muppets tomorrow. And signs are he's even gone straight to sleep after I read his story... though that may well be misleading!

Friend is coming to help with cinema trip tomorrow so should be OK. Or at least different!

Now just trying to get to grips with baby carriers seeing as A has gone back to the pushchair over winter...

Its such a period of adjustment for all of you...I cant imagine what Toby would be like if I had another baby (not going to happen btw!!)

Also, could he have been feeling poorly?? I know sometimes its hard for toddlers to verbalise how they feel physically...i.e. everything is "tummy ache" when acutally they have a sore bottom???

You are doing soooo well! Enjoy the muppets!

NC I second everything that's been said. Having just been/still going through it atm, it is bloody hard work. I'm sure A won't be anywhere nr as challenging as DD has been but it's 10weeks now and she's slowly starting to get better. She's stopped hitting us recently, although still calls us names which we ignore. It is soooo hard when instinct says time out/consequences but with a new baby to feed, you don't have the time to spend ages dealing with A's behaviour. For us, DD wouldn't even stay on the step and would run away laughing and DS was feeding every 90mins for a few weeks- it was impossible. I have to say DP found it all incredibly hard, so much so that I do think for a while there we were teetering on the edge of something big as I wasn't prepared to live like that (he is very zero tolerance and favours strict discipline). DD also developed a stutter for a while, which I think has made him see sense and he's trying a calmer, kinder path. So ignore what you can and swift, firm, calm consequences for what you can't. Starlight gave me some great advice on another thread. She said even if it's removing what they have in their hands at the time or, if needs be, removing a favourite cardigan then swift return once behaviour improves. We ballsed up by not doing the swift return - all stick and no carrot if you like. Throughout remember A is angry at you as your new DD is not 'going back'. He's trying to hurt you but feels awful for hurting you at the same time. DD was just the same and once not in the incident book at nursery once.

Now she is better, we had a lovely day today. I took them both to see puss in boots on my own!! I booked 3 seats so I had a spare for DS's car seat but he slept on me for most of it. We then had lunch oin pizza express and a wander around. DD was an angel but it's only now I feel able to attempt an outing alone. Tonight she delighted in pretending to paint DS's face and she's in with me tonight cos DP away.

Btw, DS is sleeping well 7-7 but damn he is noisy. DD stayed with us till 7 months. What's the earliest they can go into their own room?

becaroo DD said tonight she had a tummy ache. I asked what kind and she said a neck tummy ache - then I saw she'd got a bump on her neck! She even has 'hungry' and 'thirsty' tummy aches!! :)

mrsa Toby does it too. Normally as he is falling asleep...he hates going to sleep...in his words;
"mummy my eyes are losing patience!"
He will also say;
"mummy I'm poorly"
"Toby, where does it hurt?"
"I'm just poorly all over"

I think that advice from SIDS is from 6 months in their own room btw...I cant remember how old my 2 were Older than 6 months I think....8/9 months maybe...

Sorry that should have read FSIDs, not SIDS