July 2010: the "a ffffew more birthdays, a ffffew more walking but are they all sleeping? Are they ffffeck!" one

[CakeandRoses]

Welcome back chul! enjoy the quavers and don't feel a bit guilty!

well, that's all i wanted really - to hear that she is being cheeky regardless if dh said yes or no - the initial cheek still exists, non?

they're erm, maybe 7 and 9, ish - maybe a year or 2 older? we barely know them! met them for a couple of hours at family get togethers about 4 times over the 2 years SIL's been with their father.

they are lovely girls from what i've seen and of course we'll look after them and make them feel v welcome. could just do withfuckingout it - but could do without the drama if he'd said 'no' even less.

aw, memph that sounds soooo shit. you really to have a total break with help from dh til you're properly recovered.

hope you get to the lion king in the end!

cakes oh I will watch it next year, ive wanted to for about 10 years, but if I have to pay myself, I wont be taking DH!!
It really isnt dh's fault about time off, He has done so much overtime recently to try and pay off his debt and buy me a new car I cant expect him to lose money by having sick days, plus if he doesnt have sick days he gets a massive bonus! But this weekend he is totally on hand to take over so I can rest, no bike riding, no gate making, its all about me!! but the plan was to take me shopping for a dress for this wedding we are going to but I dont think I can be bothered, I will just take his bank card when im better! he is away all next week so I best be better then!

cake I def think it's very, very cheeky to even ask. I compleftely understand your DH that he couldn't say no. I can never say no and always end up feeling bad when people load their stuff on me that they can't be bothered with. ffHaving to organise a party ffor tomorrow myselff, I really wouldn't want anymore kids around here.

I'm all baked out. Phew. One more cake to go and then the decorating tomorrow.

memphis Blimey, it really hit you hard, didn't it. I think it might get worse and worse though cos you are not resting properly. I know it's so hard, but please try and don't do anything at the weekend and let DH deal with it all. Otherwise next week is gonna be a nightmare.

Welcome back chulita. Sorry you are feeling sick. It's shite, isn't it. Only a ffew more weeks to go and you'll start glowing ff. I wanted to ask you, will the age gap between S and no.3 be the same as between S and L?

fffI'm reading (still not posting) the antenatal threads (Oct and Nov, cos I'm end of Oct) and everyone keeps going on about hypnobirthing. However, it seems to be mainly first timers doing it. So I'd like to know if it really works, so have any of you got any experience with it?

fmlic Cinema. #Sorry about a shit night. Ours was awful too.

It's pissing it down here, but I found out about a huge indoor sandpit and will take M there in the affternoon.

See you all later.

PS: Snort at cougar cake.

Hi everyone

memphis sorry your still ill no wonder your pissed off.

cakes she is cheeky for asking considering you don't know the kids, how does their mother feel about them staying with (sort of) strangers while the dad goes to a hotel? But dh should have said no, you have too much on. I agree he should be on babysitting duties so you can do what you need too.

tsc that's a decent sleep. I really need to kick Rs ass into touch.

Thanks dh I'm just hoping it hurries up could do with the cash. R's been standing a while, taken some steps, can walk easily holding one hand and even the dogs strap but refuses to walk alon.

Welcome back chu we've missed ya! Is the ms kicking in now?

What did you decide mlic? I fancy cars 2

[sidles in, hoping no-one will notice the tardiness] Yes, totally. I agree with everyone. Of course I've been here all along... [shifty eyes]

Totally approve of your theatre plans, memphis. I'm hoping to go to the theatre in London next February for my 30th. Not sure what I want to see yet... Lion King is tempting! Though I have a hankering to find a performance of Twelfth Night if there is one around; It's my favourite Shakespeare play.

YANBU, Cake. Personally I think SIL was especially rude in how she asked! The act of looking after the girls is a big favour on your part, asking should at least be along the lines of "I know this is a really big favour, but it would mean so much to us... Let me leave you some money so that you can all go out somewhere fun on Saturday. We'd love to return the favour some time and have F & A visit for a weekend." etc.

I'm glad to hear M's not the only one that's resisting the thrill of walking. She's cruising round the furniture now, but either sits down or grabs something when we try and get her to stand alone. She loves walking around with someone supporting her at the waist though!

Hmm... I've been feeling nauseous since the start of the week, I actually threw up on Tuesday and ended up taking the day off work. It's slightly worrying as I have a reputation for having a stomach of steel and the last time I threw up and felt nauseous was during early pregnancy. And that was the first time I'd been sick in a decade!

Before anyone gets too excited though I dug out an old test yesterday and did it (It was going to expire in a couple of months anyway, at least this way it fulfilled its purpose!) and got a definite negative. That combined with regular AF makes me pretty sure it's just a lingering bug of some kind.

After work today, DH and I are going to look around a house that's just come on the market five doors down from us. It's a bigger semi with an extra bedroom on a corner plot, so much more garden space and room to expand. And it's within the budget we'd initially set aside for plans to extend our current house!

(Meaning we're now wary of extending our current house as we fear not getting the money back when we sell...)

We have a family friend who runs an estate agents, so the wheels are in motion to attempt to sell our house and move. It's kind of sad though... M was born in the house we currently live at. :( But it's way too small to stay there forever.

spirael if you move would you be walking back to house and staring in like a crazed mad woman
trudyla I bought the hypnobirthing CD's and the preganancy relaxing cd was excellent, it made me fall asleep with 2 mins of putting it on, I really struggled to sleep before I bought it but when I started labour it went out the window, I lent the CD's to SIL and she just popped her baby out with no drugs apart from a few puffs on gas at the very end.
L is in bed and ive just had a hot hot hot bath! now eating a huge pot of melon to build my fluids up, I know a lot of the illness is due to being so dehydrated, no matter how many times I tell people I cant drink, they say oooh you have to, well sorry I cant my throat closes after a few sips and it pours out my mouth if I try and neck it!!

spiraelf Well, well, well, trying to sneak back in. Let me check when you were ACTUALLY here the last time

fHope your bug will be gone soon.

Good luck with all the house stufff. But what about Canada?

memphis Good idea abouft wafter melon fthen. I gave that to M when she wouldn't drink anything. How about ice lollies?

Did your SIL think it was so easy because of the hypnobirthing?

thanks trudy, spirael & stac

trudy i planned to have a hypnobirth with F but it all went to shit, he nearly died and he arrived into the world via an emergency c-sec - so that was that. had a planned c-sec with A so about as far from a hypnobirth as you can get!

before it all went wrong i was managing the contractions (or 'tightenings' or whatever the wanky hypnobirthy term is) fine with no drugs, gas etc so it may well have worked if i'd actually had any actual amniotic fluid and wasn't in proper agony between contractions

sorry, i actually meant to sound upbeat about hypnobirthing there as i do think it can work v well. just wasn't my experience.

about to try and get some sleep as F & A are both down so catch up properly later

trudyla thinking about it I suppose it did make me cope better at the start, until they made me have a epidural as I had been contracting for so long I was exhausted and needed to rest I didnt have anything until they ordered the epidural (I did then have pathadine to trip me out as it was a 2 hour wait for epi) my sil listened to cd's everyday, I think it was that that calmed her down, 3 hours of her 8 hour labour she just chilled out in a bath. Im still jealous of her, I kept active to give me an easy labour, had a terrible one...she literally sat on her arse for 9 months and popped baby out, ive told DH next time im not doing anything at all, not even washing a cup out

I might well go and stare through the window at new owners memphis, possibly make faces at them too. Do you think it'll help sell the house if I point out the patch of carpet on which I was sewn back together after giving birth..?

I've been here in the thread all along, Trudyla! I was just, um... Making the drinks? Tea anyone..??

As for Canada, we've now been told it's going to take an additional 2-6 years to process us for permanent residence! This is after the 4 years it's taken already for us to sit patiently in the queue. So we're currently pretty sure that DC2 is going to be born in this country!

I think I unintentionally did something akin to hypnobirth with M. During early labour I assumed I had a dodgy stomach, ignored it and went to sleep. By the time I realised I was definitely in labour, M was only born about 2 hours later. [oblivious]

The midwives barely arrived in time, let alone any kind of pain relief. All I got was a couple of paracetamol. But I seemed to cope ok, I was in complete control the whole time and didn't scream, shout or swear. (In fact DH had to prod me occasionally so I'd give him the thumbs up to assure him I was ok.)

I coped through the later contractions though mostly by focusing on the fact that they came in waves and I could recover between each one, and embracing the fact that they were useful as they were doing the job of pushing M out.

But I do confess to being a bit of a freak of nature!

spirael I wouldnt tell them, in this current climate most people dont want to have to replace carpets and I would rip a carpet up if there was a chance it had been tainted by fanjo goo!! oh and I do think you are maybe a freak of nature, that is shit about the Canada move.

trudy yep, the gap will be 20 months, just like L and S [lucky me] I've not up-chucked yet but S's formula this morning made me full on heave for ages. DH took over in the end, not going to be fun in 10 days when he's off for 4 weeks, leaving me in mid-1st trimester wilt I found hypnobirthing great pre-birth with S, I was so worried about labour after the experience with L, I was terrified but the CD helped me focus on the positive so much that I was actually looking forward to getting S out (unfortunately that all went wrong too but at least up until then I was excited!)

chulita poor you with the sickness, did you suffer with S and L?? I was lucky in that sense no morning sickness when I had L? When does it normally settle for you?
mlic will be waiting for your return later to ee what happened at cars 2, I really want to watch it but they have toddler sessions of films about a month after they come out a £1 per child and adults free so I will wait for that.
Waiting for the call from garage about my Fiesta being fixed, they are coming at 7 to collect it and I need to valet seats! My new car got half way to Northern dealer and they turned back as they were stuck in traffic and wouldnt have got car back today if they continued so its going again next week, they are doing the bonnet lock, my bil is a mechanic and he says the front discs are fine and the rear are rubbing on new discs causing the noise, but the bloke driving today said no noise anymore and he has spoke to mechanic and he said as its new pads they would have worn the uneveness out of discs abd they will be ok, I dont know weather to still push for them to be changed, but me being a bitch I drained the water sprays so they couldnt re fill it on their journey until they got into bonnet and now I have to wait til next week to get it fixed so I have no water...that backfired on me!!!

With L I was full-on vomiting all day from 2 weeks til 24 weeks. I did have hyperemesis though with her, that was utterly, utterly crap. With S I vommed from 7-16 weeks. I'm hoping that 3rd time lucky I'll escape with nausea and a penchant for quavers

Thats the real reason Samson doesnt eat a whole pack to himself the chulita!

tsc poor F and poor you what a scary thing to happen.

mlic oh dear what happened at the cinema ?

cakes I do actually think it was really cheeky of your sil.

trud I had quite easy short labours with only some g&a although with B they took the G&a of me because I was only 2cm dilated and they didn't fully believe I was in labour until 30 minutes later when my waters went and her head started coming out cue me saying I really need to push and the midwife shouting don't push I haven't got my gloves on yet couple of pushes later she was out :o

I don't know if it was the hypnobirthing that made my labours easier or if they would of happened like that anyway but I think it did make me feel calmer and more in control. So I would recommend it.

mlic saw that it was a disaster but wanted to know wht, we took a friends 3 yo to see shrek 2 before I realised kids never do what you want, all then way through the trailers he kept saying this isnt shrek 2 over and over and as the film tarted he wanted a we, he needed a wee about 15 times during the film
my car has gone sob sob, he was so embarrassed, he went to a local cashpoint that only gives out fivers so he had to give me £130 in fivers! its all money it just makes me feel richer with more of a wedge!

Thanks ffor your hypnobirthing thoughts. fLast time I used something called birth skills by an Australian woman which I found really useful. I got through 8 hours of active labour without any pain relief and only really struggled when the bastards just told me to lie down and then ignored me. As long as I could do my moving around and all the other things, I was fine (ish) I might look into a hypnobirthing cd though as an added extra. I have to say though that I absolutely hated a book that everybody bloody loves but it jusft came up when I searched ffor hypnobirthing on Amazon and I hated it so much I wanted to burn it, cos throwing out didn't seem enough. It was Spiritual Midwifery by Ina May Gaskin. I was really cross with the friend who recommended it to me andf I really don't get what everybody sees in her.

tsc OMG, that made my heart stop just reading that. I'm so glad you saw in time. Nightmare scenario.

ffchulita Gosh, I don't envy you when DH goes away. I was a blubbering mess in the first trimester. Still am really, but even worse then. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the nausea will not turn into puking.

Me and DP talked about last pregnacy yesterday and I said how different I thought it was and that I held it together so much better and didn't really cry. DP fffell about laughing and said I was just as bad then.

MLIC I wasn't sure what you meant about cinema disaster either. I see now.

memph Sorry about your car. How are you feeling now?

spirael That is awful about your visa application. I would hate being left so helpless.

cake How are the party preparations and how is F the little biter?

dylthan Wow, those labour stories are quite impressive. Are you planning on having any more kids if you don't mind me asking?

stac I like that R walks holding on to the dog

I've baked so many cakes today, I feel like I'm in a surreal cake world. M seems to love cake though, which is funny cos she only efver had her first piece yesterday.

Today at the indoor sandpit, she was still quite shy and sat with me most of the time and demanded me to sit on tfhe floor with her. Until a mother started feeding her baby son some carrot cake. M was off then, queuing behind him Little cake monster.

Have a good eve all.

mlic I think the 3 c sections thing is a bit of an urban myth, cses are generally v safe, especially planned ones. After 2 or 3 cses it's probably safer to have another than try for a VB (risk of uterine rupture increases).

After all, Victoria Beckham has just had her 4th - albeit with some of the best medical care in the world. A woman at my playgroup has had 5 and was walking to playgroup with a 4yo, 2yo and newborn within about 6 weeks.