dec 2008- Who will stonk it in & be crown queen of the thread?

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He we are ladies though I may need to change my name as royal title may be stripped.

Cock, I lost a whole post then. Wasn't very exciting, but sympathising with you missing your DCs, DB!

Couldn't wait. Had to check on Izz. Fast asleep but her breath still hitching as if she's crying in her sleep. Heartbreaking!

Right, time to try again!
Kayz, sorry to hear the driving lessons have stalled but seriously, you can always start again when you feel more confident.

Trace, it's a bIt extreme but if you're not planning on any more kids, there's always the snip. That's what we're planning, though tbh it's not really needed at the moment, no. Of shags since E was born can be counted on the fingers of a brownie guide salute

Slatternly behaviour, well we cheat and have a cleaner which gives me a reason to tidy up once a week. Give the kitchen surfaces/ cooker a once over every day, and sweep up any obviously heinous messes, to stop E eating them, but that's about it.

Beans you are clearly a total sex pot no matter what you say!

JJ, I agree . Is it possible to take a rellie/friend with you as a nanny? I'd feel at this point I'd rather take a hit for more money, otherwise wouldn't enjoy the trip anyway. Hope you get it sorted - that guy sucks.
Invis hope ds finger is better soon. Kayz, don't give up its worth it in the end, I say grit your teeth and soldier on, and you'll get past this. Lady, yes indeed, we'll catch up soon & chit chat loads. I'd like to think I change bedding every week but in reality it's more like every 2. I seem to continuously tidy though. I clean stuff a lot since we have the dog, but I need to dust more. I clean when I'm stressed though, (which has been a lot lately for no valid reason) Roomba has been the best appliance I've ever purchased! It operates daily downstairs and periodically in the bathroom. DH had a cleaner when I met him - she was rubbish! I ended up going over what she had "apparently" cleaned! I'd probably like one if we had a massive house, but then I'd probably never find one I'd think was doing a decent job That said, there are cobwebs and dust everywhere here at the moment, and this house doesn't seem clean to me! I've done whites wash since ruining too many things, & since whites started greying, but dh never bothers, & he puts it on often too. In fact ds put a load of washing on the other day after watching Peppa Pig so what hope do I have! @ Beans!

Weather so odd. Pissing rain today, but boiling yesterday. Just had 2 of DD1's mates round for the morning and lunch. Plus 2 other babies. Am amazed by how well behaved they were. No tantrums and house fairly tidy. V odd. Fishfingers and chips wolfed down, then fruit and cake. Very sweet.

Winding down to the weekend now. DD1 so upset not to have seen Daddy for a couple of days. Poor lamb!

Yay DC's home. House is a mess again .

Even more exciting DS has been dry since Tuesday! So proud of my little man, in just shy of a week he appears to have it sussed. Just the poo's to tackle....

Evening all,

Blimey beans four children for lunch, you are superwoman! I meant to say ages ago that I can't believe your DH doesn't appreciate your meals. Your meals always sound fanastic and you make lots of effort something seperate for the children, plus you are a little minx in the bedroom .

deids Glad the DCs are back! Well done DS on the TT.

invisible or anyone else who have DCs that share. When did you put them in the same room? We want the DDs to share so we are all on the same floor but don't want them to disturb each other.

I'm finding the days SO long at the moment as DD has gone off afternoon naps again and there are no todder groups running during the hols. Can those at home share what they've been doing to give me ideas?! I could do with some focus to activities like painting and gluing. We did gluing lentils, rice and pasta to paper today but we could do with a project.

We've done lots of gardening, weeding, planting seeds. Also we've done a bit of baking. I've found that making things that require rubbing fat into flour so scones or rock buns are really easy for DD1 to do with limited supervision. The rock buns we made today were delicious.

I need more ideas though!

DD2 has been a milk monster today so I was very grateful for the new Peppa Pig DVD I stashed away in case of emergencies .

Ah, thanks JB and Trace and everyone else for nice comments. DH does often appreciate my food, just not always! I think my problem is is that I've watched my parents while growing up and Dad is so demonstrative and full of praise for Mum, that I hope for it too. Although actually, not so much these days - they bicker more!!!

JB I don't know what to suggest. I usually just bung DD1 in front of telly when she doesn't nap, so I can have my lunch and read my book!! You sound much more interactive than me already. I am v lazy and neglectful I suspect. Rock cakes sound a good idea! Will make tomorrow! Thank you!

DH working late again tonight. DDs missing him so much. Particularly DD1, who keeps asking for him. I know it's not his fault, but I wish he'd come home pre bedtime some time and/or leave after they get up. He left at 6.45 this morning. Girls didn't get up til 7.30. Nor did I. Heaven!!!

Just had a delicious burger with cheese, ketchup and mustard. Tasty cakes! And on healthy side, sliced beef tomato. Deeeelicious!!

Jolly I dislike holiday time too for the lack of groups, as DDs attention span is so short. Have you got a library near you? That?s her favourite place at the moment and she can spend hours rearranging the books on the shelves and smiling sweetly at the staff until they let her stamp the books.

Deids your little man is a star, big high five to him. Let me know how you plan to tackle poos ? DD hasn?t done one on the loo yet and I don?t have a clue how to address it. But that can wait. TT has gone downhill with us. Sunday and Monday went well at home, just 1 accident each day. Tuesday was also great, again only one accident even though I took her out to a farm park for the day, so lots of distraction (plus the poo episode at my friend?s house). Yesterday was terrible, DD wet herself continually all morning until she?d run out of clean pants ? my friend text me to say she?d gone back to nappies and she hoped I didn?t mind. All I could say was that she has much better patience and perseverance than me. At nursery today she went to the loo a couple of times this morning, but then wet herself all afternoon. I?m a bit deflated that she started so well and has gone downhill. But it seems she?s asking for the loo, sitting on it and not doing anything and then 10 minutes later wetting herself, so maybe she just needs to coordinate the ?release? muscles better? Anyway nursery again tomorrow, so I?ll let them deal with it again, before I give up . Actually I?m wondering if it will come good at home at the weekend again when I?m with her, not because I think I?m any better at it than anyone else, but just that it may be she?s more comfortable about asking to go to the loo at home with? I was so dreading TT, whereas everything else (weaning etc) I?ve looked forward to, and I hope my lack of enthusiasm isn?t making it all go wrong? Ho hum, worse things happen at sea (and elsewhere)

I met a good friend of mine for lunch today, as she?s 40 weeks clackered and has a hospital appointment tomorrow when she?s hoping to be induced. She?s had vicious hyperemisis (sp? the hideous constant vomiting) all through this pregnancy, to the point where in the last month she?s started vomming up blood. And now her kidneys and liver are starting to fail, but she can?t keep the meds down that are supposed to support them. Isn?t that just awful? Fortunately, the baby is thriving, but because it?s doing so well the drs have decided against induction any earlier. I hope my friend puts her foot down tomorrow and refuses to leave hospital without a baby because she is literally falling apart in front of my eyes. So, a few wet pants are neither here nor there, are they? And having given myself a talking to, I?m going to get the clean clothes out of the washing machine and re-enthuse myself. Night all xx

Quick iPhone post to say sleep a bit rubbish still but am refusing to let it get me down.

Had lovely meet up with JJ and SL in cambs today with the dd2s. Just lovely.

Am big slattern re housework. Sheets every 2 weeks if you're lucky. Cleaner every 2 weeks. I do the kitchen properly every week. Don't think dh has ever cleaned the kitchen floor.

ZJ-your poor friend.
Invis-how's the finger?

Having spoken to JJ am now considering BLW for dd2. Bought book today. Will prob start soon. CRIKEY. Any advice?

Love to all

wg Sorry that sleep is still evading you. No idea on BLW but I think vag did it? Not sure who else.

ZJ I'll keep you posted on the poo/potty. No idea how to go about it. he says he will do it on the potty but I guess my plan is just to wait behind him in the hope I catch it and once he's done it a few times he'll 'get it' same as wee's.

Also re: the not going then wetting. DS was like that the first few days...yesterday mum had him and never asked him once if he needed to go (I bow to her wisdom on this). Anyway, he asked everytime and she said his wee's were much bigger which she reckons help him to hold his wee and get the sensation of needing to go better. Kind of get it but seems risky to me. Having said all that his nappy was bone dry this morning he got out of bed shouting "need wee wee" and then did a massive one

Oh and ZJ your poor friend! Why an earth haven't they induced/cs her? Seriously hope that they keep her in today and get the baby out, let us know how she gets on.

Peeing with rain today and haven't a clue what to do..maybe I'll change the sheets

Oh and we've not heard from trudy for a while, or jam...has jamgone away again I think thats soon. And how long has vag gone away for?? Seems aaaages.

Just nipped upstairs for a shower, bobbed back down to check DS and he had done a big poo on the potty!!! Hooray!.

Right I'll stop banging on about DS toilet habits now its getting very boring

Gosh, I so don't envy you all doing the potty training now. Quite relieved to have got it out of the way. But it was hideous. But DD pretty much has it now, just the odd accident once in a blue moon - phew. I can't remember how I got the poos sorted, but it did take a bit longer than the wees. Lots of poos in pants, then a gentle reminder about poos going on the potty and patience, which I'm not that good at! But now if she has accidents I'm a bit sharper with her, as she knows better. But never nasty. I actually house trained her first as the weather was so nice that she kept wanting to go in the garden. When I found myself wiping the grass with babywipes, post poo, I knew it was time to get her on the potty!!! But now she won't go on the big loo because she fell off mid-poo the other day! EEK!

We're off to local water fountains in a min for the girls to get a thorough soaking. Brilliant.

Inlaws coming up at 4. Great.

Really quick question. Do any of you fancy going to the Wilderness festival in Oxfordshire next weekend (12-14 Aug)? I won an MN competition and got a family camping ticket worth £300. I applied ages ago and they only informed me yesterday and with such short notice I cannot go as we have other plans. I thought a friend would take them but now she can't. If any of you ladies would like a weekend camping on the Cornbury estate with lots of events for the kiddies and fun things for adults too then let me know ASAP. x

Thanks for lovely offer, Asparagus, but we've got a party on the Saturday night and I'm off to N Wales on the Sunday for 2 weeks, so will be maniacally packing. Sounds bloody brilliant though!

thanks, asp, but we are on hols in norfolk that week.

beans - where about in north wales? pil live up there, so know it fairly well.

can you tell, i'm not on my iphone? have a desktop at my dad's house and can update whenever i fancy!

Jolly: I try to get out of the house every day, if only to the shops and the park. Activities here seem to centre around running after each other shrieking...

I have been losing patience with DS1 (again) as he is simply not listening to me at all - and DS2 is now following suit. So I end up losing it and becoming shouty scary mum and they start bawling, then it starts again. Sigh. I did have a long chat and a cuddle with DS1 this morning and got a few things straightened out I think.

So hot here! Hoping it lasts. Asp: lovely offer re tickets, but we're camping Sun-Thurs next week and I don't think I'd be able to rouse DH from his bed!

Hello. Have been meaning to post for days. Will catch up in a mo but if I do that first I'll never get to post.

Hope everyone's school hols are going well. SS moved out last Sun, has gone well as far as I can tell. I have my own office at last and we have a spare room, hurrah. It's our wedding anniv today, have been out for a very nice child-free lunch (sorry, tautology) and essentially has all been nice, but am having an increasingly shouty day for the first time in a while which is disappointing as things have been so much better. Guess I should focus on it being the first day in a while instead of every day, which it was a few weeks ago. I was meant to have a discharge phone chat with the pych person next week but we've had an offer to see friends so I've blown out the phone call without hesitation! I was a bit annoyed that she wouldn't just accept that things were dramatically better and discharge me on the phone last week - this is exactly why I was chary of getting involved with the MH services in the first place.

Anyway, work is exciting atm, if only the plaudits and developments actually meant increased income. DS has been sleeping and eating a lot and turning into a little boy under my very nose, but his naps are getting shorter. If that's the price for a 7am wake-up instead of 6am that's fine by me

Don't think I have anything very interesting to say, think that's why I haven't been posting, am just not thrilling atm! Will now go and catch up with everyone while my courgette, pepper and split pea soup relaxes on the hob.

Evening ladies,

It has been a long time since I attempted a proper catch-up but DH is out with his mates and the girls are asleep so here it goes.

WG - Sorry to hear that sleep is still crap but good on you for not letting it get you down. I sort of did Baby Led Weaning. I say "sort of" because BLW purists say that its all or nothing and therefore any spoon feeding means you are not doing BLW. With both girls I waited to wean until 6 months and then I just steamed big lumps of veg and dumped them on their trays and let them get on with it. It was great - messy but so much fun for them and they got to choose just how much they wished to eat and just how much they wished to explore their food in other ways. Whenever we were at home I designed meals that they could eat with their fingers (which turns out to be most things if you put a plastic sheet under the high chair and strip everyone (including yourself) down to underwear for feeding sessions). However, when out and about in places where semi-nakedness was not appropriate I often cracked open an Ella's Kitchen and spoon fed so that is why I was not a BLW purist. There is a great BLW blog by a person from MN called Aitch. Good luck!

DB - How sweet that you missed your two littles so much during you two days of freedom. Your mum is quite a hero to camp with a grandchild in the first week of potty training! Good on your DS for starting so well.

JJ - Have a great holiday. I hope you get childcare sorted and can sing lots and lots.

Rubes - I am sorry that you did not get to go to the US. Its nice you had a few family days out though. Why are you stressed at the moment (you mentioned you are cleaning loads because you are stressed)? Is it your DH's work? Whatever it is I hope you have some good support and can relax a little this summer.

Jolly - It is really hard when all the toddler entertainment shut down for the summer. Activities around the house that we enjoy include lego, play-doh, making fruit crumble (DD2 is a master crumbler!), bouncing on the trampoline, drawing and playing doctors (this last one is my fav as I am always the patient which involves lying still for hours while I am tended to). However, I do always have to get out each day and this summer our activity of choice is swimming which I suppose is much harder with a teeny-tiny baby. Sorry, that is not much help is it?

ZJ - Good luck with your scan next week. Are you going to find out the gender? I found out at 12 weeks with DD2 although I know most NHS scan departments refuse to tell you until 20 weeks.

Effie - I really feel for you about becoming shouty scary mum. I become her so much more than I would like. I also become disengaged-distracted mum much more than I should. And most evenings at the moment I am guilt-ridden-must-do-better-tomorrow-mum. This staying at home malarkey requires great patience and I am only two weeks in. Dh joked yesterday that he was longing for a recall of parliament to give us all a break. Where are you camping next week? The reason we cannot go to Wilderness is that we are camping with friends in Sussex. So excited!

Spot - Where are you? I hope you are OK. I am in Brighton next Thursday to sort out my Mum's stuff. Would you be around if I had time for a quick coffee?

Trudi - I am glad that your SS's move went well. How has his sister taken his departure? Are they close? Don't worry about having one bad day, you can't turn everything around 100% in a matter of days.

Beans - I love your posts. Every time I check in you have me in stitches. And you are a super-wife. When I was a teen my mates and I used to practise our BJ technique on bananas, I was never let to forget the time I snapped my fruit and ate it. Maybe DH should be pleased that I don't indulge him more.

LadyT - I am stunned that you are not losing weight given how little you consume and how busy you keep yourself. I have read somewhere that if you starve your body it grabs onto any little bit of fat you do consume and stores it away and therefore it is hard to lose weight. I have no idea whether that really happens but could your body be in starvation mode and thus clinging onto every calorie? And do you really mean you are not losing any weight at all? I mean are we talking a steady couple of pounds a month or nothing at all?

Kayz - Sorry that you got put off driving. If I were you I would persevere. I really believe that is something scares you and you stop doing it then the fear builds and the activity assumes mythical proportions of scaryness. Just like you should always get straight back on a horse after you have been thrown I think you should get straight back in the car.

Right, I bet I have forgotten loads of people. Sorry if I have. I am all tired and confused.

All is well here. I am two weeks into my five weeks at home with the children. I am not managing to be quite the Mum i would love to be but we are having fun. DD1 told me today that she wished she could find buried treasure so that we could be rich and I could stop work and every day would be like the summer holidays. DD1 and DD2 are playing together a lot which is a joy to see. However, DD2 does whine and cry frequently and I do find it unbelievably trying. My relationship with her is quite odd: she is so affectionate and loving towards me and often I am overwhelmed with how gorgeous she is and the next moment I will do something unforgivable, like help her down off her bed when she wanted to do it herself, and as she screams and bites and hits out at all of us for the nth time I feel such frustration and irritation towards her.

We actually had a nice time in Wales. The girls loved it but I always find staying with my ILs hard. This time they were actually very nice (MiL is always nice but even FiL was fine this time). However, there is something about them that saps my energy and makes me feel lethargic and foggy minded. Plus I constantly compare their grandparenting to how I imagine my Mum would have been with my kids and it makes me sad. Holidays with them really make me miss my Mum and in a way they make me miss my Dad although I don't actually remember him. I guess what I am trying to say is that they make me miss having my own family of people who I understand and who understand me. Moan, moan, moan. I think I preferred it when I had terrible tories of FiL to justify my attitude...

Rubbish at posting on the phone - I lost a longish attempt last night. So time to try again on the laptop!

JB - we moved DS within DD as soon as he outgrew the moses basket, which would be around 3 months. Oddly enough they didn't and still don't really disturb each other once asleep - there have been no more than 2/3 times where one has woken the other. At the beginning I think DD used to watch a bit of TV while DS fell asleep and then he'd stay asleep while we sorted DD's bedtime antics. Can't remember when we switched, but we just take them up together now. DS usually falls asleep first, but he is starting to learn her monkey ways. Bedtime is pretty grusome in our house.

We also tend to resort to TV in the afternoons - I kind of feel if they are not napping, at least it is some kind of down time. But that aside, we also do crafty things - one silly one that is popular in our house is making paper shoes - basically drawing round feet and cutting out, letting the DCs decorate and then sticking on another strip of paper for a strap. Then they get to shuffle around in their very own shoes.

DB - fantastic effort by your DS! On the whole poo thing, DS took a while to figure out that one. I think part of it is that you kind of need to relax for a poo and being watched to "perform" while you go on the potty doesn't really do it. For a while, DD used to sit on the potty in front of the TV and do her thing there every afternoon. She then got the hang of it and just told us.

Beans - feel for you and the DDs. I know my two get pretty strung out if I don't manage to see them from a couple of days. I try very hard to be there one end of the day or the other, but sometimes it doesn't work and that's tough on everybody

Trudy - happy anniversary!

Aspara - we're off to my ILs tomorrow, just for the day. I totally get it. They are not bad people, but its just a different world I don't really understand and vice versa.

DS had his poor finger checked out. Predictably enough the sewn on bit didn't take and is a bit icky. They leave it there while the rest heals. Not a surprise, but I do feel sorry for the little guy.

Thought I'd share this little nugget from DD. There was a still of an actress dressed up as Margaret Thatcher advertising some show. DD to her dad:

"Is that the wicked stepmother?"

Predictably enough my old lefty DH loved it...

Thanks, 11 years together and only five of them an honest woman - I don't know how I hold my head up in public.

I've picked an arbitrary point of Monday this week for catching up, so apologies if I'm missing someone's cataclysmic news. I hope I'll get a few mins of peace to drink my coffee while DS bashes stuff fixes things in the playroom with DH.

WG that sounds gruelling. All I can say is that these phases do eventually pass. I literally went loopy when DS was new (anxiety attacks) and the sleep deprivation was a massive element of it. One day though, when she's 15 and you're waiting up for her to get back because some tattooed motorbike-driving gorilla has taken her out, you'll look back nostalgically to the days when all you had to worry about was her waking up every two hours. Not much consolation now but sometimes it helps me to cope if I look ahead a bit. And sod your friends, their babies abv aren't going to be as bright as DD2 whose lively neurons are waking her up. I've heard that babies' sleep really dteriorates just before they master something new, so perhaps she's about to crawl or something? Personally, with your holiday coming up, I'd leave making any changes til you're back; sometimes these big shake-ups can help. Re routine, DD was nearly seven when DS was born so it wasn't an issue, but what I have found helps in these situations is to start as you'd like to go on. DS had a 'proper' bedtime from about three months old - start early if you need to so that boob arrives after bath/books/whatever you do at about the right time. I don't know how old DD1 is (sorry ) but could she have an input in DD2's bathtime? DS took a while to settle into a really nice sleeping pattern - he was seven months old when he first slept through, just after he discovered his right thumb - and he's had all sorts of disturbed phases, recently waking twice a night until it got to a point where I could barely hold it together any more, and he spontaneously began sleeping through. Much of this week he's been sleeping til 7am, hurrah! It may all have been affected by my feeling - like yours - that I didn't want him disturbing everyone else in the night, though it seems usually DD sleeps through anything, it's the older ones (17 and 18 yo skids) who were more likely to wake.

Right, thought I just post that essay to waiting girl before something got in the way. >resumes catch up...<

Washing I separate coloured and white as I can't stand dingy whites. I don't need them to be electrifyingly blue-white, but not-grey is good. I do one white wash a week (try saying that with your teeth out!) and 2-3 loads a day of other clothes and sheets, towels etc. With five of us in the house including a messy toddler and an outdoorsy 9 yr old, a hairy smelly (well you know!) husband and a disliking for anything disposable (no tissues, kitchen roll etc), I process an awful lot of laundry. While we're talking domestic bliss, my housework routine is: change everyone's beds on Saturday morning, hoover our room and the kids' and get DD to tidy. DS has just a chest of drawers and a mountain of books in his room, no toys, so it doesn't really need tidying. Bathrooms happen as and when. I try to keep the kitchen tidy as I go along, and I hoover the dining room most days as it's a battle zone by the time we've all eaten in there three times a day.

Invis am looking for the details of DS' accident but really sorry to hear about her finger, hope it's okay. No advice on the nanny but I can relate in a small way as we have huge concerns about DD going to her best friend's house. You can explain away to yourself individual incidents but taken overall, the situation is very undesirable and we're more or less at the point of saying she can't go there, and just weathering the hell from this child's aggressive mother. I think we'll all feel better once we've actually done that. Might you feel the same if you sacked the nanny?

Lady DD was very sad to leave our last-but-one house, when she was just five. We tried to mitigate it in advance by doing a scrapbook, but it didn't help that we often drove past the house and then someone at her school moved into it, which just rubbed it in really. We emphasised the benefits of the then-new house, particularly the garden and all the tasty things that grew in it (apples, raspberries, vast red lettuces etc), but she never took to it as she had the last one. I never said anything but I was pretty gutted to have left that house too! We're all much happier in the current house, perhaps because I am and I think, unfortunately, that my mood towards things influences the general mood in the house. DS loved this house from the moment he stepped over the threshold. I think it was the carpets - we had none at the last house, but this one is carpeted much of the way through and he was just rolling around on it for sheer joy! We also get to see lots of gripping traffic from his bedroom window - yesterday FIVE emergency vehicles and a combine harvester in a row - so what's not to like if you're 2 1/2?

WG just reading more bits about DD's sleep - agree with DB that weaning didn't make much odds. Btw am a HUGE fan of BLW. Went the puree route with DD, but DS was BLW and it has been a totally different and blissfully stress-free experience. I'd advocate it hugely, not on any moral grounds but because it's just a walk in the park compared to all the pureeing business.

Grr, getting tangled with flipping the flipping thread and pages and so on - I do with the MN site would just take on your prefs and keep them - I have to tiddle about with the view every time til it's usable. Anyway, am going to put DS down for his nap then try to find where the hell I was with the thread!

Evening all, I'm catching up with both you guys and the Harry P film that was on earlier today. I'm a bit Harry mad at the moment, having just (re)read the last book and then went to see the final film last night. I shed a tear at the end, simply because it was the end, I feel slightly bereft (and embarrassed!)

Invis I love the idea of paper shoes. I will definitely be making some this week. Sorry ds's finger didn't take, how much is affected?

Asp it's lovely to hear you're having so much fun with the girls, and also that your holiday was a success. Wonder what's come over your FIL, to start being nice?!

Pleased to hear SS's departure went well Trudy. Has he gone far away, or is he still local?

We've had a much better TT day today, only one wee on the floor and (half a) poo on the potty. Hurrah! But, dear lord, it is grim cleaning out the potty. Remind me again why I'm doing this as nappies are a whole lot more pleasant

Yesterday I told my manager that I was clackered. I wanted to wait a bit longer, as she's just back from mat leave herself this week, but I don't feel I can hide it any longer. She said all the right things and then said 'it's not the first time this week I've had this conversation' and it turns out my job share is also clackered and we're due within about 10 days of each other! I spent the rest of the afternoon chuckling to myself ... and I bet my manager was cursing me for the rest of the afternoon

I think it was Arti who asked if I was going to find out the gender. We have to wait until 20 weeks here, but we didn't with DD although I was tempted, this time though I'm not even tempted

Hello all
At mother in laws. She is lost to plants vs zombies on the ipad. Peace!

Lovely meet up with jj and wg. Their two littles are mini mes of their bigger sisters!

Wg no advice on blw but i would have thought the key is to stay chilled and not worried about how mich they are getting. I have been really good with this even though not doing blw (but lots of finger food) with dd. Easy to do when she eats loads though. But she didnt for the first 2 weeks after 6 months and i just gave her food to play with and didnt worry! Basically i felt much less pressure at the beginning of weaning this time - as i knew you can get to one yr and they can still be eating sod all. Anyway that is waffle but i think jb and pd both did blw.

Zj that is funny about your job share. Why are potty poos so gross - cant you just tip into loo and wipe remains with baby wipe? Or is thst scummy. Ds not done one yet! Who else is not doing potty training yet? I have an excuse every weekend as something on - must get cracking soon.

Mil just got her brains eaten - awesome - but should be sociable now