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fraktious · 23/06/2011 13:07

So we don't scare the viroids on the antenatal thread with horror stories of no sleep, chomped boobs and endless laundry or make them envious with tales of cuteness....

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Eskarina · 21/09/2011 02:25

We're in synch with night feeds again baby! Thanks for website recommendation, will take a look as my in-feed entertainment.

Baby2b · 21/09/2011 08:24

Grin we had been just waking once between 11pm and 7am, but last night was 2am and 5am. Hope you got more sleep xx

ConfessionsOfAWareFanjo · 21/09/2011 11:08

Esk, sounds like you need to go up a size in nappies. I find DCs never make it to the upper weight on the pack before they are leaking and upsizing always helps (DD has been in size 3 for ages). As for the expressing, you may need to experiment with the time of day you do it, try having DD about, or a pic of her as that will stimulate supply. You may also need to try a different pump. A swear by the Avent manual, but other people prefer other pumps. Good luck.

cowboylover · 21/09/2011 13:20

Clothes are hard and I'm sure the different shops are different as well. DD follows DH and has a long body, the matalan tshirts are like crop tops on her but asda are fine.

I tried giving her a dummy but she likes to play with it firing out of her mouth and laughing but no actual sucking! She comfort sucks on me for a while so I let her unless I'm getting sore as seams to keep my supply good. Expressing is ok now and get 3-4oz on electric pump but I struggled to start with. I can't look at it and need to focus on something else or I don't get letdown. She refuses the bottle now but im still trying as it would be nice to go out for a meal or something or the milk in storage will hopefully be useful for weaning.

vallinnapod · 21/09/2011 18:04

Can't help with the expressing issue here as I expressed from day 3 (when DS refused to eat on the left) and got loads even then....not tried on the right hand side though. I did end up with a sore nipple though. I think you really have to pay attention at the start to ensure your nipple is as centred as possible - easier said than done as my pump steams up around the funnel almost immediately Confused

Back in Pampers for the time being as I am having a hurrumph with the cloth ;)

Eskarina · 22/09/2011 04:48

Hmm. Annoying that it seems I could go through several pumps before finding one that suits. Fortunately I've been lent the one I'm using so I haven't had to buy it. Will give hand expressing a go. DD has decided she doesn't like my left boob. I'm somewhat insulted. No idea what the problem is but it takes her ages to latch onto it as she pulls away and gets really cross with it so I have to work quite hard to get her on. Switch to the right and she leaps straight on. I could understand if she'd been like this from the start but why suddenly take against it?

Shame about the nappies val. I've got one itti bitti (red with White polka dots) which is my prettiest nappy by far. Sadly it's in size small so DD is nearly of it. Very sad.
Had to get out the 0-3 sleep suits tonight. She's not quite 4weeks. Sees wrong somehow. There's plenty of room widthways even going over the cloth nappy (decided to go with bamboozles over night) but she's just so long. Good thing we were given most of her basic clothes 2nd hand...

ConfessionsOfAWareFanjo · 22/09/2011 09:00

What pump have you got at the mo Esk? I've heard (read) several ppl complain about tommee tippee.

vallinnapod · 22/09/2011 09:35

We have exactly the same problem re: left boob. We get there eventually but it is a struggle! No advice other than we just had to persevere. To begin with he wouldn't eat from the left at all so even this 'fight' to feed that side is a massive improvement.

We have been very grumbly and unwilling to settle at night, especially the initial putting down. It doesn't help he has a massive sleep from late arvo to early/mid evening. Not sure what to do. I am loathed to wake a sleeping baby (which is easier said than done!) We have has some success with a White noise app which helps. Sends me off at any any rate Grin

Eskarina · 22/09/2011 12:56

It's a medela mini electric pump. I wonder if I've got the suction turned up too high to make it hurts so much. She's latched onto the left side now with relatively little fuss so I hope it was just a temporary grump with it.

No advice about waking sleeping baby - we're still negotiating that one, but I do love my White noise app. DD and I have spent hours listening to "beach waves crashing" and our favourite "extreme rain pouring" Grin

Baby2b · 22/09/2011 16:37

I have been advised that as ds is gaining weight to leave him sleeping at night, but to encourage feeds 2-3hourly during the day. He is really difficult to wake though.

My electric pump starts on a very low setting for a couple of minutes to encourage let down and advises to only turn it up to a level that is comfortable. Might help to pump while feeding.

fraktious · 22/09/2011 16:42

Sounds like you do have suction too high. I used a manual pump at first and now gave an electric double or I'd have had to put him on formula to work.

I'd also leave a baby sleep and feed feed feed when they're awake. As soon as you get the hang of it things change though!

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nickelbabe · 22/09/2011 16:48

hello!
I've no expertise, but I wanted to nosy and see what you lot were up to! Grin

was wondering about this not feeding from the left breast - would it be a totally stupid question to suggest holding her the other way round?
like if she's across your body to feed from the right breast, try holding her the same way (so she'd be under your armpit) at the left breast?

Might be totally clutching at straws though!

Grin
Baby2b · 22/09/2011 19:51

My LLL book recommends offering the disliked side first every feed. It can be because the baby prefers the pace of milk flow from the other breast. Would def give Nickels suggestions a go though...rugby hold?

I have had major cluster feeding today. Ds fed from 4.30am-1pm. Only stopping to nap for ten mins or cry while I changed his nappy. Thank goodness my sister came round with lunch!

cowboylover · 22/09/2011 20:55

The scbu nurse who helped me express there when DD was there said always have the pump on as low a setting as possible to work so not to put to much pressure or make you sore.

DD is supposidly not putting on weight quick enough and dropped down a few centiles but not sure what I can do about it? I feed on deamand and she sleeps through the night on her down? Any ideas?

Baby2b · 23/09/2011 04:09

Hey cowboy, I would ask on the breastfeeding threads as they are amazing for advice. Can you reintroduce a middle of the night feed? I did read somewhere though that breastfed babies grow at a different rate to formula babies, but the charts are based on formula growth. Did the health visitor not have any advice? Mine talks for Britain Grin

vallinnapod · 23/09/2011 19:38

On the subject of feeding I feel daft as I have only just come across the concept of dream feeding. We haven't done it...are we too late to start?

We did co-sleep for most of last night as DH was out late and then up early (that will teach him!) so we fed lying down for the fist time. Can't believe we haven't done that before now! My arms and back love me Grin

On the subject of feeding...aren't boobs weird? My right one is clearly like some natural spring, it has sprayed DS (and others Confused) numerous times, caused DS to choke most feeds and leaks like no ones business day and night, yet the left one is clearly hard work and does none of the above. No wonder DS prefers the right one! Both get equally full. Very odd Grin

Baby2b · 23/09/2011 20:02

I don't dream feed either. What is the reasoning and how do you do it? As for feeding positions, I learnt how to feed lying down first and it took me ages to get the hang of feeding sitting up Grin. Still prefer to be laid down as ds gets a better latch and seems more comfortable.

I have odd boobs too. My left has got much larger but it's my small one that leaks constantly and makes ds have to gulp quickly. Hope they even out when I stop!

What is everyones opinions on controlled crying? I don't feel comfortable with it, but slightly worried I am being a soft touch compared to other mums I know. Shouldn't compare really!

Eskarina · 23/09/2011 22:25

My right boob is the hyperactive one too! Are we all right handed? Sounds like there's research to be done here Grin

I'm not sure what a dream feed would look like either, as DD goes to bed when we do. She's supposed to sleep in the evening but is remarkably resistant to the idea.
Theproblem I have with feeding lying down is that I fall asleep too easily and wake hours later to find I've leaked all over the bed and DD has been awake and munching as and when she likes!

baby I doubt you'd find anyone would advocate true controlled crying on babies as young as ours. Even the strictest of sleep training programmed are usually for 6m+. But there is a difference between cc and not picking baby up at the first whimper

Baby2b · 24/09/2011 05:08

The longest I have heard is ten mins of crying for baby same age as ds. I am a big softie...ds rarely gets past a wimper Blush

Eskarina · 24/09/2011 05:41

10 mins? That's quite long time, I'd crack way before then! I think there's a difference between not being able to get to them immediately because you're busy/on the loo etc and making a point of not going to them so they learn not to fuss!
I do worry that I'm too soft with DD, especially when it comes to sleeping. She wouldn't settle tonight so she's in our bed. We had been doing so much better on that one. Will see if I can get her down again after this feed. We get no pattern of naps in the day though. She hates naps and only sleeps if we go out in the buggy or the car. Then she sleeps for ages. But at home in the crib/basket...not a chance!

Baby2b · 24/09/2011 09:39

If it makes you feel better, ds frequently sleeps in our bed. It's amazing how much space they take up. We just don't tell anyone we co-sleep as it saves Shock

Eskarina · 24/09/2011 13:25

Well she did go back into her crib after that feed. Unfortunately she lay there until 7.15 gurgling away to herself. Now it is progress to be awake and happy, we don't see that much, but why can't she do it in the daytime? So then our day has been all to pot because I hardly got any sleep and her nap pattern is buttered up. She is SO resistant to falling asleep if she doesn't want to, despite being completely exhausted

Eskarina · 24/09/2011 13:26

My iPad is too polite. Her naps are buggered not buttered!

vallinnapod · 24/09/2011 13:30

Oh I am a first wimperer picker upper too Grin For me it is easier than getting to the stage where he is too upset to feed (not that I have let it get that far...!) The longest tends to be if I am running around the house and he has woken up after we have been for a walk. I think we may have even gone so far as 5 whole minutes...the cat gets all upset if I leave him too long Grin I am trying to leave him a little longer, especially when I first put him in his crib. A couple of minutes with some white noise on tends to settle him down, if not - cuddle/feed time!

DH out again last night so another lovely sleep together for DS and me! You are right though - he takes up more room that DH! I am amazed how well he (DS) sleeps when next to me in bed, even though in his crib he is physically closer!

fraktious · 24/09/2011 13:54

esk she's not resistant she doesn't yet actually know how. Self-settling babies are born knowing how to do it - everyone else has to learn!

We co-sleep, pick up at whimpers etc still. I won't do any kind of sleep education yet because him getting tge sleep at this stage is more important than how he gets there.

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