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Just mumming (viroids 1)

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fraktious · 23/06/2011 13:07

So we don't scare the viroids on the antenatal thread with horror stories of no sleep, chomped boobs and endless laundry or make them envious with tales of cuteness....

OP posts:

Are your children’s vaccines up to date?

Set a reminder

vallinnapod · 03/10/2011 11:43

We tend to have one side and then sometimes 10-15 mins later go for the other. Very inconsistent. He is eating much more now (well, feeding for longer at any rate!) so I feel he actually gets to the boob emptying stage! I had also read the fore/hind milk had been debunked...until next week I am sure

Sorry to hear about the colic. Touch wood I think we are OK on that front. Have had some almighty 'I'm too hot' crying sessions over the past couple of days

Off the new house to harass the builders...deciding whether DH and I will play good cop bad cop (me bad, of course ) or if I just go to full on new mum hormonal tears on them

CuriosityCola · 03/10/2011 14:07

Thanks for the advice. He seems a bit better today, so no idea what was wrong.

For feeds I always offer both sides. As long as babies poo doesn't have a green tinge you can tell they aren't drinking too much 'foremilk'. During growth spurts I swap sides around every 30 mins. More to give my nipples a rest. My midwife said to think of the first boob as starter (foremilk) and main (hindmilk). Then the second boob for ten minute dessert (foremilk). Kind of silly, but I like the idea.

Eskarina · 03/10/2011 17:14

Thanks all. I do need to step away from the baby books I think. I just succeed in making myself feel useless. I was looking for ways to get DD to sleep in the day as she gets so distressed and is clearly over tired. It's not even like she'll fall asleep on me or anywhere else reliably. Until 10pm that is, when like clockwork she'll suddenly accept her feed, doze off in crib and stay asleep til 4am

Shes having a particularly bad day today - if she's awake she's crying

Incidentally, does anyone know why it's such a baby-rearing sin to allow a baby to feed to sleep?

vallinnapod · 03/10/2011 17:35

I haven't heard that Esk (but not read many books!) I have never fed to sleep per se but 9 feeds out of 10 end in a snooze....!

CuriosityCola · 03/10/2011 18:08

Esk, you could just ignore the books on that one. They are written by child minders or people who don't have kids, therefore they are used to needing alternative method. Plus people are funny about baby using you as a dummy. Even though a dummy is a nipple substitute. If it makes your life easier and you don't mind then nurse to sleep. Remember, you can't spoil a newborn. If I can't tell if ds is still feeding I gently take him off and see if he starts rooting again.

I would place the baby whisperer with Gina ford. Good to get some ideas from, but would just take the bits that feel right. Have just purchased no cry sleep solution and it appears more breast feeding friendly. Still a very strong advocate of Food of Love, makes me feel really positive about everything even when things are tough. Good to read other end of spectrum.

No easy solutions to day time sleep. Though my new ergo makes him drop off instantly. White noise like the hair dryer also works well, so I have heard

Do you have a bath and massage routine at night? My ds can barely keep his eyes open afterwards and normally sleeps from 7-10pm. It makes it very tempting to bath more often!

ConfessionsOfAWareFanjo · 04/10/2011 10:12

feeding to sleep is fine!

ConfessionsOfAWareFanjo · 04/10/2011 10:15

Which is just as well because I'm sitting here with DD sacked out on my lap having fed herself to sleep

CuriosityCola · 04/10/2011 10:23

Snap with ds

vallinnapod · 04/10/2011 11:24

Haha - DS back in crib after a morning snack too! Meeting my Dad for lunch, I can guarantee he will wake up as my food arrives - although I am planning on having a salad which you can eat with one hand so he may just stay asleep!

Bit of a shock having to actually dress him today after a week in just a vest! Saves on the washing....!

childrenchildreneverywhere · 04/10/2011 14:41

Ref colic have you heard of BabyCalm? www.babycalm.co.uk they're kind of the antithesis of Ms. Ford/ The Baby Whisperer in that they promote doing what feels right for you and your baby and offer support and tips rather than advice and routines, they run lots of different groups and classes, including ones specifically aimed at colic, could help?

Eskarina · 04/10/2011 22:15

This is a bit weird. For 2 nights now we've done a night time routine invoving bath, bottle, BF bed and DD has gone down at 8. Last night she gurgled to herself until 10 then put herself to sleep. Tonight she was fast asleep by 8.30. I had expected she'd wake for her 10pm feed but no. Last night she went through til 3am (and prob only woke up then because I was wandering round the bedroom deciding whether to express or not as breasts were about to explode. Wonder what time she'll sleep til tonight. Problem is......I miss her and so does DH. T'was a bit weird to have dinner together without one of us juggling an unsettled baby.
Had the cranial osteo today. Will see if it makes a difference.

vallinnapod · 05/10/2011 08:23

Easy to say don't knock it Esk! I know I would miss DS too!

No such sleep here, think DS may have a cold. Couldn't get him to settle and when he woke for feeds he was very grizzly and was very snuffly/grumpy when 'asleep' too.

We are 5 weeks today! I have a question about expressing. I have one pouch of frozen milk in the freezer. Not yet given a bottle of it though. How haveyou guys found it? Is it relatively easy to get the baby to accept the bottle? Do they happily go back to the breast afterwards? I think DS is quite a lazy feeder (am sure his boob preference is down to the fact his preferred one is the spurter!) I am a bit worried he may love the fact it is easier to drink from a bottle. No real need to express yet as I have no desire to leave him for a length of time longer than a feed!

CuriosityCola · 05/10/2011 10:13

I think I may have posted about it before Val. It was very easy. I got dh to feed him. Read up about ways to help on Kelly's mom e.g. Don't force the teat into his mouth. Touch his top lip and he should pull it in. We never had any problems except he drank it really fast. Stopped to wind him every 2 mins and did a nappy change half way through. He was still done in no time. I have to say I was really sad about it though. The plan was for dh to do the night time feed, but this hasnt happened due to me not wanting to.

Eskarina · 05/10/2011 11:05

We've not had problems switching between bottle and breast, but DD has always been a strong feeder. Only problem is that I find expressing a right faff and I don't know how much to do. DH does like his bottle time though and I normally bf afterwards so we know she's had enough. Our HV recommended giving a bottle regularly if you want to know baby will take one as they can easily forget. Agree with CC though that it goes very quickly.
She's feeding constantly this morning...

vallinnapod · 05/10/2011 23:48

Thanks ladies, with you CC in that the thought of a bottle makes me Silly and selfish really.

Poorly bub here. Really snuffly and unhappy

Eskarina · 06/10/2011 08:14

Aw poor DS. Hope he gets over it quickly. I think DD is having a growth spurt. She spent ALL DAY eating and was up more than usual in the night. So much for getting the evenings back. I can confirm though that the idea that if they sleep well in the day they'll sleep at night. Mon and tues - perfect. Yesterday she slept for an hour all day and didn't crash out til 10, then up twice in night and no lie-in this morning. I'm shattered!

MightilyOats · 06/10/2011 10:43

Val, have you tried saline spray for your DS? I used one recently when I had a cold and it took quite a lot of the snuffliness away so I could breathe properly. Hope he gets better soon!

MightilyOats · 06/10/2011 10:43

Val, have you tried saline spray for your DS? I used one recently when I had a cold and it took quite a lot of the snuffliness away so I could breathe properly. Hope he gets better soon!

cowboylover · 06/10/2011 22:15

I hope the colic gets better soon. We struggled for a while but it coif get better just before 3 months. I recommend stopping to burp mid feed if you can and infacol which we called magic mixture after making DD so much better

I'm an advocate of go with the flow and your babies cues/needs as I totally confused myself and DD with different routings and techniques ect so now we just go with it and it's working out great.

ConfessionsOfAWareFanjo · 07/10/2011 09:44

I've always loved having a routine for DS and now DD, but I'm also the first to admit that that routine is entirely flexible and broken as often as it is kept to. Especially as the routine is always based on what the baby is up to (so with out fail 3 days into something becoming routine said child will start teething/growth spurt/get a cold/we'll be late home... and it al goes out the window. But at least the routine means I now things will settle back down again thus letting me keep my sanity for another day). You have to find what works for you (and your LO) really.

Today my 'routine' involves still being in my pjs while I wait for the washing machine to finish to take advantage of no rain. May have to go back to bed again too. Oh boo

vallinnapod · 07/10/2011 12:07

LOL COAWF

I guess we have a routine in that we sleep, feed, try to remember a nappy change, are awake a bit and repeat Totally DS's instigation

Tried a bed time routine last night to includes bath but he got upset, and I got stressed for the hour before thinking 'must get a bath done!' Will be more organic going forward!

Expressed another bag for the freezer today as builders told us yesterday we are likely 6 weeks from moving. Should really get the Mother babysitting so DH gets his wife back! Equally really don't want to! Can imagine that in a couple of months i will be wishing the live in babysitter back!

MightilyOats · 08/10/2011 17:13

Well I may be joining you (hopefully) soon ladies... lost a fair bit of jelly like stuff over night and had increasing painful cx (BH? but painful) whilst walking around this morning. Bump has also dropped by about 6 inches! All stopped when got home though, so I guess it could be a bit stop start for a while. Bloody excited though! Did any of you get a really bitter taste in your mouth before labour started? Feel like I've been sucking off lemons or something

vallinnapod · 08/10/2011 19:35

Ohhh, exciting stuff! Good luck!! I had no warning of labour whatsoever so can't help you on the metallic taste!

ConfessionsOfAWareFanjo · 09/10/2011 23:32

For about a week before DD arrived everything I ate tasted very very salty. Had to stop eating some things because it was so revolting. Hope all goes well and we see you back here soon with BabyOats xxx.

CuriosityCola · 10/10/2011 10:13

Good luck oats. I never had any signs either, but it sounds promising.

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