The CRESH spa and creche: we ALL deserve crap ham

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Enter all ye ESHes. We've been Barren, we've been Pregnant - now at last we are Child-Rearing.

• Come share your questionable tips on raising a real live baybee!
• Compete with Cunty to take control of the bad mummy crown!
• Eat crap ham - after all, you deserve it!

Grrr... light we were 3 weeks into it, had the mortgage sorted, searches started, etc. Plus had totally planned the huge extension in my head and decided where all our furniture / books / antique maps would go.

I just cannot understand it. We are chain free, living in rented, pre-approved, and we offered what they asked. What is more, we are actually renting through the local agent who is selling the house, so it's not like they don't know us!

Fucking cocks.

Fucking cocks indeed. We managed to stuff the estate agents when we bought the current house. After being royally shafted by them 3 years previously on another attempted purchase, it was very sweet revenge to buy our house with not a penny paid by the vendor to them, even thought they had whipped up a huge bidding war. Lovely. Wankers.

What a crock of shit, fanny.

Just dipping in as on hollibobs! Sadly no aviation involved tho prob be quicker than the bloody drive here. Anyways is nice to be waited on hand and foot even if mother is getting on me nerves a little.

fanta I'm so sorry. Absolute arse bastards so they are. That's so cruel. Gazumping should not be allowed. Once again I'm hoping karma comes into play. So hard to know what to do - call the vendor? Give the agent a-rollicking? Probably not much sodding point. Greed has a lot to answer for.

Fanny what utter cocktwattery. I suppose you can't blame the vendors if someone came along and offered more. No actually you can, greedy wankdogs. I hope the roof falls in.

Boxer yeah that neck snap comment was tongue in cheek. Makes me chuckle that people think airlines would happily try and kill off their customers. Interesting to read the real science behind it though. And i'll never see hand luggage in quite the same light. Makes me glad I won't be doing as much long haul as previously fr quite some time (if ever)

My baybee has decided she can't (or won't) fall asleep unless she has either a boob or a finger to suck on. Even if she is blatantly knackered. But this is ok to indulge in a 4 week old right?

I fed smallboo to sleep until he was 18 months old ishRocket so it's a yes from me.

Do what feels right Rocket. Once all the flesh has gone from your finger try a dummy.

Funcking estate agents, fucking vendors, fucking gazumpers. Twunts the lot of them.

The plane talk is all very interesting - always amused me that they used to sieze your nailclippers but were happy for you to equip yourself with a few glass bottles. Just one point though Box, last time I flew there was no mention of the brace position in the briefing, just the same old, same old talk on how to use the seatbelt/safety jacket/oxygen masks. That said, I am v bad for reading the safety card and therefore probably deserve to die [rebel]

:o Kate

Sorry-did that come across as a bit smug . My disclaimer is that I'm lazy - and although MrBoo had other ways of getting him to sleep it was always boob or screaming for me. Boob was easier!

Rocket I wouldn't worry about it to much as it is still very early days and really quite nice to feed to sleep. Occassionally Peppa would feed to sleep but generally I would ensure she woke slightly between finishing a feed and falling to sleep. In the weeks to coe if you want them to learn to fall asleep on their own you kind of need a break in between. That said, I am not saying that all babies that are fed to sleep will never fall asleep without a boob in their mouth. Peppa has always been pretty good at getting herself off to sleep due to this and it has really helped when she has woken in the night when she had got older asshe can self settle better. The only time I have a problem is when she is massively overtired during the day or at bedtime and she screams then she needs a bit of help to calm down whether than be a cuddle, a boob, a pat or something.

Tip of the day: Do not, under any circumstances, casually mention to OH on getting into be that we seem to have this 'baby sleeping all night' malarkey cracked, unless you enjoy the sensation of such extreme sleep deprivation that you really would put the cot out in the chicken shed, if only you had the energy to get out of bed and do it! I am hoping for a good long nap from LG today instead. Or else.

Rocket finger in mouth to sleep is fine at 4 weeks. I tried a dummy with LG and he wouldn't take it, but he grew out of needing a finger to suck on by about 9 weeks. (At nearly 10 months old, though he does seem to have a fascination with other babies dummies now, and will happily steal them!)

Cluck - briefing says 'look at the card for the brace position.' Stick with me though, and you'll be fine

Last boring plane fact from me - I still count the number of rows to the nearest exit every time I fly as a passenger. Just in case I need to crawl over seats in the dark.

Oh well - new day, new attitude!

I will see lovely ESHes tomorrow, so all is well with the world, surely?

light We took our Macpac to NZ as Clyde's checked in luggage. We filled it with bricks loads of kiddie equipment. We even found a trick for getting lots of bulky stuff in the 'seat' part - wrap it carefully in a big jacket or baby blanket, then put it in the seat where the baby would usually go, and pull all the straps really tight. (Shake it roughly upside down a few times to check that you won't lose your cargo in transit!)

Box your plane talk scares me.

box - 'Last boring plane fact from me'. Ha ha! I don't think so!

Any thoughts about train crash infernos in long tunnels?

I posted, but it?s vanished.

Gist of it was, rocket feed to sleep, she?s tiny and won?t learn bad habits for months and months yet.

fans arseholes.

FP I don't like tunnels. Or big boats a long way out at sea either. I do sometimes get quite concerned about the Tube too. OH was on the train that was supposed to be blown up by the bomber who couldn't set his bomb off so blew up a bus instead. Lucky escape.

la la la la This is all getting a bit too close to my flight now. But it won't get me down, as fanny says, there's an ESHmeet tomorrow, and today is my last day at work for two weeks. Not quite as good as last day for 10 months was, but I'll take what I can get.

I had a strange dream last night in which Alps and JB had the most unconventional and tres bizarre wedding, in the town where tomorrow's meet is happening. And I just happened to stumble across it and meet her with SFF, Squeaks and my dog in tow. Bear had on a ridonkulous blue headband

Hey! I bought him that headband!

Did you also buy JB's cream suit? (which has just flashed back into my memory)

No, he borrowed that off Hom

I have just been chatting with work and got my first 2 months rosters. On the down side, I have had to rearranged TT's birthday party, but on the plus side, there are not enough trainers to cover all the training that needs doing in the summer period, so I get 2 weeks fully paid off, and a grand total of 7 days work for my month's full time salary. And only 3 nights away, and even that isn't consecutive nights. Bonus! Always nice to find yourself on the winning end - often my boss seems to get the winning end while I try and figure out how they managed to screw me again. I reckon 3 nights will be just enough time away to get over last night's nightmare child scenario without it being too long away. The first night away is only 2 weeks before his first birthday, so he had better discovered a taste for cow's milk by then.

Oh yes, also ouch. LG is developing an increasing appetite for mother flesh. He has a good old chomp on my nips when BFing, but he has also taken to grabbing my face with both hands and biting me, with what would appear to be amusement and affection but you never can tell. He also bites any visitor who stands still for long enough on the leg or foot. This is all new to me - How on earth do I get him to stop?

I guess I know she's too young to 'spoil' yet. TBH she's pretty good really so we get a bit freaked out when she cries and will do anything to shut her up. (even though I know she is just trying to communicate) I have found the easiest way to get her to sleep in the pram/basket is to put the sling on. By the time I have wound my way into it and tied it up she has dropped off :o

I don't like tunnels either, I have just about stopped freaking out going through the Liverpool ones. One of my friends wanted me to do a walking tour of them with her, erm no thanks! The 5 minutes it takes to drive through are enough, let alone 3 hours walking round them, ugh.

Er box... MrP was on the Edgware Road tube. It took about two years to get over that horror. Scariest day of my life, trying to figure out where he was and find a way to get him home instead of wandering the streets of London in shock / being picked up by random ambulances and taken to far-flung hospitals / etc. Then he had all the police witness interviews that went on for ages, the non-existent 'victim support'.... anyway, that chapter of our lives is probably best closed methinks.

casp Well I'm looking forward to alp's whacky wedding tomorrow!

By the way, we have been allocated one Olympic ticket. (Guess which one though!) Poor MrP didn't get a single swimming or cycling ticket. And we didn't get any tickets for the cross country. You would think there would be almost unlimited capacity there... but not one?!

Sorry Cos I only half agree. Although I agree you can't spoil a baby that young and it is nice to feed to sleep or whatever you should probably start introducing/teaching how you want your baby to fall asleep fairly early on. I used a dummy with mini. It took until he was 2.4 to get him off it. I had a period of endless nights trotting into his bedroom to pop it back in so we would go to sleep. I wanted to try and get Peppa to fall asleep on her own. Moo and you I believe have had to feed or rock to sleep in the night and Moo recently broke this. I am not saying there is anything is wrong with feeding to sleep, just that it depends if that is the way you want them to learn that is "how" they should fall to sleep. We have had this discussion before, there is no right or wrong it is just what you choose as the way that works for you and should you wish to change you just end up having to "teach" them to fall asleep in another way.

Yes, but baby rocket is only a few weeks old, even if you want to teach them to sleep on their own, there is still plenty of time for that ? I think about 16 weeks is when developmentally most babies start being capable of self settling.