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FannyPriceless · 26/05/2011 12:18

Enter all ye ESHes. We've been Barren, we've been Pregnant - now at last we are Child-Rearing.

  • Come share your questionable tips on raising a real live baybee!
  • Compete with Cunty to take control of the bad mummy crown!
  • Eat crap ham - after all, you deserve it!
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CurlyCasper · 09/06/2011 08:12

I hear you muse. Didn't get to sleep until 1.30am, with a small lodged between me and SFF. Her temp came down yesterday and she eventually started to act more like herself, But she is now covered in red spots and having bouts of extremely panicky crying. Looks like chicken pox Sad

SilverSky · 09/06/2011 08:51
Muser · 09/06/2011 08:58

Oh the poor thing Casp. That's just horrible for her and you.

Last night here was asleep at 9pm. Then up at 12, 3 and 4. Didn't manage to get her back to sleep again until nearly 5am. Then up at 8.30am. If this was a growth spurt should it not have spurted by now?

Backinthebox · 09/06/2011 09:51

Chickenpox not nice, but better to get it over and done with early. I haven't managed to get mine it yet, in spite of hanging round with both Cluck and my sister when their kids had it.

Well, my mother has gone home, and we have established that LG is perfectly happy to sleep all night without feeding now, just not in his cot. The screams we had last night you would have thought we were killing him, not trying to get him to sleep in a cot. Having said that, he is clearly having a bit of a developmental spurt - he is soooo nearly crawling but not quite. He has a mean bum-shuffle too.

Last night I sorted through boxes of stuff that have been packed away forever, and came to the conclusion I was never going to need 34B wisps of lace ever again. Sad So into the bin they went. OTOH I dug out my uniform and am delighted to discover I fit into my pre-LG uniform. (Not my pre-TT one, though. Yet!)

Little horse is turning out to be a bit cleverer than we have given him credit for so far. We went out in the trailer a couple of months ago and he decided he wasn't going to go in it. A smack on the bottom changed his mind, but he kept needing the smack on the bottom, which makes it tricky to go anywhere alone with him. So me and my mum have been giving him horsey treats in a bucket on the trailer every day this week. The trailer is in the field next to the one he is turned out in, with the ramp down and a bucket of treats in it. Yesterday it turns out he jumped over the fence into the field with the trailer, loaded himself and ate the rest of the treats. Hmm Genius, or trouble?

Cosmosis · 09/06/2011 10:23

Oh no re chicken pox :(

We had 2hrs of random screaming in the night again, think he must be teething again.

muse 4mth sleep regression? Is she deffo hungry?

Muser · 09/06/2011 10:45

She seems definitely hungry. She wakes up shouting and has both sides before falling back asleep. The 3am, 4am calls last night were because I only gave her one side. I would have thought if she wasn't hungry a quick 5 min feed would comfort her enough.

I have tried ignoring her and using her white noise generator to get her back to sleep. That has worked in the past when she's woken up. But she just shouts louder.

We have stopped swaddling her and I wondered if that was the problem. But I've watches her earlier in the night thrash a bit and not wake up fully. So I'm not sure. I don't really know what to do now, it's been going on since Saturday night.

Cosmosis · 09/06/2011 11:39

sometimes growth spurts can last up to a week, it does sound like she's hungry from what you say.

SilverSky · 09/06/2011 21:03

box I would say both!

muse deffo growth spurt I reckon. What is she sleeping in now? I used a miracle blanket and then moved onto a sleeping bag. Love sleeping bags I do.

It would seem we have a hypo child who is mainly happy. Yet he stares more when we eat than the dog! He screamed at me yday when I ate crisps! Today at a friends we had coffee and biscuits and he was so bad I shoved a rice cake in his mush!! Just to shut him up! Whatever is mine he thinks should be his.

Did I mention hoss is deffo poorly. Got drucks.

Muser · 09/06/2011 21:12

She's in a sleeping bag Silv. She did one night without as it was v hot for the only kind I had. Thrashed about loads, but she seems fine in the bag.

Gah, was feeling chuffed that she went to bed at 8.30pm and she just woke up. TBG swears this has nothing to do with him going into the room. I am unconvinced.

Sorry to hear about hoss Silv.

Medee · 09/06/2011 21:21

we took EA swimming today for the first time - she seemed fine with it, we were in the pool a lot longer than I had anticipated, and then she slept all afternoon (3 hours, and I woke her up.) Muse, worth trying?

Muser · 09/06/2011 21:36

We were meant to go on Monday, Medee, but the day went a bit wrong. I plan to try again next Monday.

CurlyCasper · 09/06/2011 21:42

Swimming is definitely fab for tiring them out. Swim - feed - sleep used to work for Squeaks.

Glad transition to sleeping bag is going ok muse (in term of her not panicking etc). Squeaks used to have to be swaddled so tight to sleep that she found it quite difficult at first. I tried all sorts of tactics to fool her. What you describe sounds like the sleep regression and growth spurt we had. Once that was over, there was a massive leap forward. I hope the same happens for you.

silv sorry about your hoss. Hope he gets well soon.

Well, the spots on Squeaks are very confuddling. They have gone from flat red to slightly peaked - really tiny raised spots - and then a bit rough, but look so different to anything else I have seen when googling chicken pox. But it probably is. She doesn't seem itchy, just not herself - and extra whingy to boot. Joy.

Can't believe she'll be one in a fortnight! I went back and read the thread I gave birth during last night. It's great having that record to go back to, I should probably print and keep. Grin

Cosmosis · 10/06/2011 10:33

yy print and keep, that's a great idea curls

rocketleaf · 10/06/2011 18:05

Hello just wanted to say hi, mark my place and say a massive thank you to those of you who have been so encouraging and supportive wrt the feeding issues we've been having either on the thread I started or via other means of communication. Will try and keep that going on over there and save all other kinds of baby related menkulling for here.

Please help yourself to this large platter of parma ham, salami and Brie. There is Billy Bear for those of you who deserve prefer crap ham.

Ps do I need to type up my birth story to gain entry to the Spa?

AlpinePony · 10/06/2011 18:11

Copy & paste it. Wink

Billy Bear is edible, crap ham isn't. :(

rocketleaf · 10/06/2011 18:12

Yours was lovely clucky is it wrong of me to ve a teeny bit Envy?

Sorry to hear about the chicken pox curly must be horrible when they are so little but I have heard it's harder as they get older so perhaps there's a small silver lining.

Sorry not been able to comment on whole thread, I am still on phone as haven't quite figured out how to balance a laptop and a naked baby (yet)

rocketleaf · 10/06/2011 18:14

I need a secretary to dictate it to alps but seeing as my choices are TB, Babyleaf or the cat, I think I am gazing.

SilverSky · 10/06/2011 18:21

Welcome rocko!!!

For those with baybees on the move I Haz question! Did you move stuff out of harm's way? MB all over the shop in his walker and clearly he doesn't understand why he can't pull the threads out of the curtains! So do I remove curtains or repeatedly remove him? At the mo he is quite proud of himself as he has managed to tealeaf HIs ZombieLand DVD case and is dribbling and slurping all over it!

Is BillyBear the ham with the face on??

Backinthebox · 10/06/2011 18:25

rocket come on in - the water's lovely! It seems to me that whatever happens first time round sets you up for your second attempt. Hence I had a fairly mad EMCS first time round and won a gentle sneeze second time, and Cluck had a hard work induction and ventouse (or was it forceps? Can't remember,) first time and won the home water birth hippo success second time. I reckon Alps is up for a fairly nice prize next time she decides to procreate Grin.

As for balancing baby and phone, seems a friend of mine hasn't figured that out yet either, and she's got 2 kids already. She let LG go splat on the floor today while I was busy telling TT that she should have listened to me when I told her she was heading for falling off her bike..... Hmm

So, I know I am a bit behind everyone else in going back to work, but with my job they own your soul for the month of retraining. Thanks to the extension taking longer than expected I am going back in mid-July. I had cleverly calculated that my training course would miss TT's birthday. How wrong was I? My big exam is the day her party was supposed to be. Back to the drawing board.

rocketleaf · 10/06/2011 18:37

Unfortunately for me we are only planning on having the one boxerbeat Ah well, thems the breaks. To be fair the birth itself wasn't that bad although it didn't exactly go to plan, it was the 2 days in hospital afterwards that where horrendous. I really wish I'd been with it enough to get on here as probably could have used some hard talking ESHsense but my brain seemed to have decided to bugger off elsewhere abd leave no one in charge.

CurlyCasper · 10/06/2011 19:10

welcome rocket! I was just catching up on your other thread when my laptop crashed and some screaming started. Just popped on the phone to welcome you. i'll be back if and when calm descends.

SilverSky · 10/06/2011 19:28

RockSteadyEddie my post birth was rotten too. Just a small case of forgetting to give me any painkillers for nearly 48hrs after a CS. Nice. Clearly I was too thick to realise that I should ask as climbing the Walls in pain is not normal. Will never go back there should we decide to have a second. Assuming we can win another.

boxing total ass about the birthday/exam clash-a-roo. Hope you can sort. Have you arranged childcare yet and have you begun the chore that is mimicking a dairy cow? I've got to get back in the habit again but it takes ages!!! Best time for me is morning bit it takes 30-40mins which I don't have. Figure I need to express 8 wks worth as on he he hits a year he's on the moo juice.

rocketleaf · 11/06/2011 10:30

Thanks curlywhirl hope calm decended but you were too busy enjoying it to post :-)

silva that sounds horrendous. Can't complain on that score as I didn't need drugs but just found being trapped in the room (babies tagged so alarms go off if you step into corridor ) constant stream of people/noise/conflicting advise plus Sprout not feeding and having heart murmur v v stressful. I think not sleeping for 5 days didn't really help and I started to get a bit paranoid/hallucinate in the end.

rocketleaf · 11/06/2011 13:46

Ok heres my birth story: Its quite long so dont feel you have to read it. I just wanted to get some of the detail down for my own benefit really.

At 5 am Sat morning and only a couple of hours sleep interrupted by back pain and twinges (should have known!) I felt an unusual gush in my foof. I got up and excitedly realised my waters had started leaking. I thought (rather foolishly!) this is it!! I was having really mild surges though, very irregular and far apart so I went back to bed to try to rest but couldn?t sleep. (surprise?) Rang the mid wife when it got to a reasonable hour and one of the team came round and examined me, Babyleaf was still in perfect birth position at this point (well that?s what she said) so all we needed to do was get the surges going. Unfortunately despite hippobirthing, nipple tweaks, snogs, pineapple, homeopathy and clary sage, the surges stayed either too mild, too far apart, or too short all day and over night and after speaking to the hospital we had to head in for assessment at 9 am Sunday.

They had booked us an induction for 9 pm but I convinced them to let me go home and try and get things going over the next 24 hrs and booked in for 9 am the next day. Things did ramp up but again not enough to be considered active labour and sometime in the night surges slowed down again to about every 20 mins (not long enough apart from me to actually sleep!) so again we headed back to the hospital in the morning. Sods law I started having proper strong and regular surges in the car and by the time we got there I as in active labour. Yey! I thought: I?ll be able to give birth in the MLU (still clinging to my dream water birth) Unfortunately, I had to wait in the reception for quite a while before being admitted and TB had to drop me off to find a parking space so I started to panic a bit and got very shakey with each surge. By the time I was admitted to the assessment unit I was in a pretty bad way (apparently my lips were blue!) so they hooked me up to a monitor to check both our heart beats. I hated this as was on my back and things started to get very intense and I was still a bit panicky about the turn of events. I was examined and dilated to ?between 4 & 5 cm?

I really wanted to get up and move around but they said I couldn?t so I was stuck like that for an hour or more. I was still pushing for transfer to the MLU unit at this point but the consultant said that both our heartbeats were tachycardic and they suspected either I had an infection or was dehydrated so needed IV ABs and fluids. ☹ So off we went to the Delivery Suite, had the drip inserted which wasn?t as bad as I had thought despite her failing to get it in my right hand on the first go. and the monitors fixed to my belly. Have to say our MW was lovely, very supportive of our intended birth plan and sympathetic to the fact that things hadn?t turned out as we planned. We dimmed the lights, got the tunes set up and tried to arrange things a bit more homely. I wanted to labour upright, so sitting on the bed and standing up for surges on the G&A but this kept making them lose the babies heartbeat. Around lunch time I switched to the birthing ball leaning up against the bed between surges, which I think saved my legs for later. We were still losing the heart beat a lot due to my rocking on the ball and at one point a junior consultant came rushing it, spouting off about how he needed to investigate (there was nothing wrong with her HB, just their pony equipment!!!) He then started going on about how if I hadn?t reached 7 cm then I would ?have to have? a syntocin drip and that they had ?given me half a cm per hour which is more than the standard? He then looked down at the ball and said the the MW ?whats with the ball?? At which point I think I would have ?punched-- bundled him from the room if I?d been in any fit state.

That said, after 4 hrs of labouring the MW examined me and I was still only 5 cm and it turned out Babyleaf was posterior (AIBU to blame the hour I spent on my back?) We discussed all the options, again MW was brilliant, very honest with me and said that she thought I had a good chance of doing it myself at this stage with the help of the drip so at some length decided the drip was the way to go mainly because I was worried that if things didn?t progress, that in another 4 hrs I would be too knackered to go on and need further intervention. We also decided that attaching the monitor to Babyleafs head would be better as we wouldn?t have to worry about losing the trace and I?d be free to move about more. We discussed pain relief and I said although I wasn?t ruling anything out I didn?t want anything until I knew how the drip was going to feel. Think we set up some IV paracetamol at this point but that might have been earlier.

So that?s when the fun started. Basically leaning on the bed again, with TB behind me to support me, one hand on the bed, one on his knee and rocking with the surges like a lunatic. I admit its all a bit of a blur really. I can remember feeling the surges get stronger when she turned it up (although I only felt 3 and TB says there were 5) and by this time I was taking 3 huge breathes on G&A each time then using hippobirthing breathing to get through the rest of the surge. After the first 3 or 4 after she turned it up I knew I could handle it but there was a point during each one where I had to really convince myself I could go on. I don?t believe I would have been able to do this with just G&A without the hippobirthing techniques although its about as far from the quiet, zen waterbirth videos I?d been hoping to emulate.
About 4 hours later even though I knew I probably wasn?t officially ?ready? I started using hippobirthing breathing down techniques to help Babyleaf move down and I could feel that she must be close to crowning because the probe in her head was almost completely outside my foof. I was examined and at 9.5 cm the MW said if I felt I needed to ?push? then go for it. So up I popped onto the bed, leaning over the back rest with my bump supported by pillows. around 40 minutes of breathing down, mooing like a cow or sounding (to my mind) like I was having the most intense orgasm in the world, I could feel babyleafs head (it was all squashy which freaked me out but that turned out to be a fine head of hair plus vernix) but I have to say I was a bit disappointed with how small an area I could feel! Things got tough now when I thought each marathon surge would be the final one but it wasn?t. Even so, some time later at 8.50 pm on Monday evening her head was born and after a brief pause, her shoulders and the placenta in the next push. Lucky me no third stage!! After a bit of confusion I scooped her up from between my legs, and put her on my chest. Babyleaf was with us!! :D

Medee · 11/06/2011 14:18

Great birth story, Rocket. Sorry for all the intervention and that things weren't as you planned, but you did it! Good that the HB came into use as well.

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