July 2010: Drool it, maul it, crawl over it - that's how our threadbabes would eat a creme egg. But why the Creme Egg?!

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Will that do us?

/panic

xposted cake best of luck today, i'm sure u will do very well. What is it u would like to do if/when u go back?

Oh mlic mine hit too, the sables sound lovely

Good luck at the meeting cake I'm sure you will be fine.

Viks my dp acted like that during the night too till I promptly told him to f**k off since I was the one up (even though I was sick) so he buried his head under the duvet. Funny how they only think of them. But in my house its easier for me because I don't work which means I get to catch up on Sleep, yeah right!

agree with what mlic doesn't do said vik. deffo sounds time for 'a a talk'

i'm not totally sure what i'd like to do job-wise as i'm still mentally in a parallel universe where i can both be at home to look after F and A and also kick arse at work.

i think i'd like to do something a bit different to my usual stuff (which involves managing team/s of geeks rolling out large websites) and focus on optimisation projects or similar which might work better with part-time hours. my old job/s involved dealing with teams in the UK, US and India so it was hard to ever switch off from it as someone would always be up and emailing/calling.

oh and thank you for the good luck wishes stac and vik

good luck today cake!

memphis, that sounds hard about the weight loss - 10 stone isn't exactly huge! It does sound like a good incentive to do it I suppose. Enjoy your cuppa after the blood tests!

mlic, I've heard that some babies really get frustrated and angry just with being a baby, and are much happier once they can communicate and walk etc. Hopefully W will be like that.

I like Pampers best by a long way - I had some Pampers and some Huggies when he was first born and I preferred them then, so have never bought Huggies again as they're just as expensive. I find Sainsbury's and Lidl nappies are too hard and don't seem comfortable. Tesco and eco-friendly nappies give him a rash around the waistband. I haven't tried Asda or Boots ones. I feel like I should really be using cloth nappies, I always thought I would, I just can't quite face the extra washing...

We were just camping in our normal tent in a field. It is a 4 man tent so there was enough space for the three of us. J slept on his travel cot mattress until he came into my sleeping bag at 5am. We slept on roll mats but next time I go camping I'm definitely bringing an airbed... There were no showers or anything, but they did keep the toilet area of the wedding venue open all night for campers. It was a really lovely venue, a converted barn in the middle of the Gloucestershire countryside. It was my friend's sister's wedding - totally hadn't expected to be invited but it was very nice that we were!

cake good luck! I'm sure you'll be fab if you're anything like as confident in rl as you are on here :) My hair's always darker at the roots, I'm toying with dying it just for fun but I get cold feet whenever I think about it seriously which is stupid, might just get a temporary one and try it - suggestions kk?

viksam dh has learnt not to get grumpy with me after a bad night, I've bitten his head off one too many times poor man I think they just forget that as tired as they feel, we were the ones running around all night!

mlic I hope you can leave the past in the past today and focus on the good bits of the present. Wrt W's anger, he's hopefully just getting it out of his system. I'm sure you've seen the angry babies/toddlers at groups, some just are more one way than another but I'm sure it's not set in stone that he's going to be like that for life.

I'm jolly again today getting very suspicious. Windy as anything today again, I'm so bored of this weather. I don't mind rain, I just hate wind!

I have just dressed J in a pair of black leggings I got on the sale rail in Sainsbury's for £1. I know they are meant to be for girls but I wanted some thin trousers for warmer weather. He does look a bit odd but never mind!

stac we use pampers overnight with no dramas but L reacts to Huggies. Teething can give the most awful nappy rash, it might be that. And to being able to sleep during the day, usually both of mine nap around lunchtime so potentially I could get an hour's sleep but I'm normally tidying up!

woodlands dh changed S yesterday and was horrified that I'd put him in a pink nappy - it was the only one left! I've got some legwarmers that I stick S in when it's a little too cold for just shorts.

Suspicious of AF coming, got that lower back ache that's always a sign and two jolly days in a row despite bad sleep is odd. I hope it's not though cos I'm really, really wanting to be pg (well, not wanting to be pg but wanting to get the family done iyswim, I do not enjoy pgcy!)

tsc that's a bit crap that no one's responded, even just to say that it's no longer available, very slack. You going to chill out once C's at nursery?

Off to wake the Samsonite and go to stay and play.

tsc thatsvawful about no e maol back, just plain fucking rude!!!!
stac I use asda but there is a notice in ours saying there is a nationwide stock problem, thats why I got the pampers, Tesco active fit ones are good, but not the comfor they go hard as do sainsburys, Morrisons are the same as boots = shit Huggies just dont fit around L's non existent bum! I tried the eco ones cakes used as they have no chemicals in them but again the no bum made them leak! he clearly hasnt got my bum!!
cakes good luck today in your shift dress on subject of weight I have always been told that if I went over 10 stone, my meds wouldnt work properly and also the weight would mess up my already weak hip, they dont want me needing a new hip before 40 as they need replacing every 10 years and they can only do it 3 times in a lifetime.
Had to wait ages for the lab to open as the tests need testing within 20 mins of leaving body, was a bit weird 3 nurses, L, a porter ready to run with my blood then one of the bloods needed taking in the dark which must have sounded strange us all sitting in the dark singing so L didnt cry!!

Asdas seem to be the best I find, definately the nappies as I had an asda one left and the redness went not its back because of the pampers, bugger!

Hope our asda has some when we go later if not I'll go to tesco thanks for the tips everyone.

Did I say I get a nap during the day? Think I meant I hope mlic will manage a np after her awful night. I did get to sleep yesterday as my sis had R for me but otherwise I never get a daytime nap. Thought my bug was away but its not and R insists on following me to the loo.

How did the hospital go memphis? Do they need to do a hip replacement soon? Properly lol'd at your fb post, felt equally sorry for you having to be in that situation.

stacit was fine they just look loads and loads of bottles! the hip is ok atm, i take calcium, vitamin d to try and keep my bones healthy, but the socket is really worn, thats one of the other reasons they want me to lose weight it is putting extra strain on the socket

Just been calling round nurseries and booked some appointments to go and see some. I'm seeing one tomorrow morning, one on Friday and two next Tuesday. The one on Friday is another Sure Start nursery, linked to the one I'm not going to get a place at, so I think it may be a wee bit cheaper. It has a year-long waiting list but apparently I got on their waiting list at the same time as the other one (didn't realise!) so am now second on the waiting list!

It will be interesting to compare - have only visited the one nursery so far.

ive had a rock and roll day looking at washing machines!! I used the sentence oooh that one looks quite cool! then died on the spot for sounding like an idiot!

my dad and brother (4) came round today, I remember saying ages ago that if a child hurt L then i would tell them off and oh did that boy get a telling off, he threw a bobbly tumble dryer ball and it hit L on the head he cried and was in so much pain it looked like he was fitting as we was all over the place beside himself, he has a massive lump on his head and a purple mark that looks like a blood blister, I really told him off for throwing balls in the house and was upset I couldnt console L, bro cried and my dad said its alright all babies cry, I cant believe my dad didnt tell him he shouldnt be throwing balls that little shit gets away with murder, dad would have whipped me with a belt if i did that accident or not, just for throwing a ball! Then after I told my dad at 4.5 my brother should need help to pull his trousers up and down and dry his willy??? he is going school in sept ffs!! he then left aaaaand breeeeath!!!

Thank you so much for all your lovely responses. Made me feel loads better. I actually never thought that some babies are just clingy and others aren't. I really thought it was something I did / am doing wrong.

chulita L a year ago sounds exactly like M, very impatient and needs my attention full on. That's why I worry so much about how the next one will fit in. It's so reassuring to hear that L gets on so well with S now. Thanks for that.

mlic But at least you are getting stuff done. I just can't leave her to cry. I can't. Oh, and I felt sooo hungover today because of all the crying. Crying never helps me, it always, always makes me feel worse, but I really couldn't stop yesterday. Feel miles better today. Hope you too. I totally understand about angry W. M seems very, very angry most of the time and I don't really know why. Let's hope they'll both grow out of it soon.

viksam I'm scared constantly and I wanted to get pregnant. I can only imagine how you must be feeling.

wss It's so reassuring to hear that this behaviour is normal for babies. I really have no idea about babies and can't compare but when I read on here that most of the babies play alone at least some of the time, it makes me really worried that I'm missing something.

How are the huge knockers today?

Thanks to all you others for reassuring me I'm not a crap mother Sorry for hogging this whole thread with me, me, me problems.

cake How did the meeting go?

stac Feeling any better?

memph That sounds like a weird scene with you all in the dark. I think it's lovely though that you all sang for L. Oh and I would be furious with your brother too. I actually wonder how I will handle other children hurting M. It makes me angry just to think about it.

woodlands You are so brave camping with a baby. So you really think it went OK? I might have a think about that. I used to love camping but would have never thought of doing it with M.

I'd better finish now, it's already such a long post.

Quick update on new baby. All is OK and healthy but he/she had its legs crossed, so we'll have to wait another month to find out the sex.

Have a good eve all.

Well I think our bfing days are definitley over . It is all quite emotional - to have stopped so suddenly without knowing beforehand we were going to stop.

Otoh, I went out last night (to a pub quiz - rock n roll) and it was nice to know that if she had woken (she didn't) she wouldn't have needed a feed (not that she really needed one before but ykwim) and dh could deal with her fine.

She woke up stupidly early this am tho so am going to have to get her onto one sleep soon I think. Dh got up with her for a while, I have jsut got up and sent him back to bed so he can get another hour before work. I have an eye infection too so one eye sore plus very sore full boobs, it's not the best feeling.

Glad scan went well trud hope everyone else OK, have to go...

trudyla glad you're feeling a bit better. of course you've not done anything wrong! I met a baby today who's 9 months old and screams when her mother even looks away. She has to hold onto her mum's clothes all the time. must be a nightmare! Some babies are just like that.

wss i can imagine you must be feeling a bit sad, but there are lots of positives to stopping bfing!

tonight I'm going to drop the 11pm feed for the first time. The last few nights he has really not been very interested, and he ate a massive tea this evening (cheese on toast, fruit loaf, tomatoes, strawberries, grapes, big bowl of yoghurt) and then had a good BF before bed, so I don't think he'll be hungry. Last night I fed him at 11pm but he woke right up anyway and was awake till 12.30 - so it can't be any worse without a feed. wish us luck!

woodlands hope it all goes well for you! I keep intending to stop the night feeds and yet we carry on. He sleeps through perhaps one night in ten but I'm just not ready to drop them since I'm his only milk supply at the mo.

wss I remember being absolutely gutted when L stopped feeding at about this age. I felt so rejected and miserable but it only lasted a couple of days and then I was so chuffed to not be 'needed' in the same way!

memphis I had to at your washing machine comment.

Hi ladies.

Cake how was your first day back? Your hair sounds lovely, btw. I HAVE to get mine done.

Chulita fingers crossed for you. Mine was 4 days late this month and I was getting soooo excited. Then of course I was heartbroken when it arrived. Have told DH he has to stop smoking before we can ttc again, as I think the last time I got pg was while he wasn't smoking. What does AF stand for?

Trudy and Viksam hope you're both ok. I can't imagine how hard it must be being pg with the babies at this age.

Memphis Sounds like there's been a lot of pants related action 'round your way the last couple of days. So glam, the lives we lead. Hope L's head is better now.

Woodlands wow, mega feed! I hope he sleeps well for you tonight.

I saw my pg friend today, she's 37 weeks and her belly is HUGE! I can't believe mine was ever that big. Her baby literally does not stop moving- it was so weird- looked like she was attatched to one of those vibratey fat shakeyoffy machines in slow motion, just constantly rippling all day.

Sorry to anyone I've missed- hope you're all well. It's so hard for me to get online now becuase we're down to one computer and DH uses it for work all day, and I don't like spending the evening staring at a screen. but I will try and be a little bit better about checking on my phone.

AF is Aunt Flo, not very original but easier than typing it out. I've not had mine back yet so I'm just waiting for it to spring out, irritating this not knowing when it's going to happen business, knowing my luck it'll be at church in my white linen trousers...

Meant to say earlier cake I'm amazed you got to 39 without dying your hair, I've been dying mine for yeeeeears (originally just cos I liked trying diff colours, then cos grey started showing). All home dyes too (waits for kk to tell me off).

I got my first AF back 2 weeks ago then another 10 days later, so a 6 day break in between them Not too chuffed about that.

I know there's benefits to not bfing but I can't seem to focus on them at the mo. Just feel sad that I will never have that again. I think I've got PLB (Precious Last Baby) syndrome. I know I'll get over it in a day or two - bloody hormones.