The CRESH Creche and Spa - future home of all ESH

[Muser]

I liked the CRESH acronym more than FESH so have used it. Welcome all ESH to your final stop on the journey. Rest your aching lady bits, try one of the many gin based cocktails, and try to molest the gorgeous waiting staff.

I have an ergo, hardly used, in blue. Will take £40 for it.

I'll take it Cunty! I can always resell if it proves unpopular.

No drama. I'll message you on fb tomorrow for an address.

Cool. I do hope it works. We put her into the Baby Bjorn all sleepy and fed so TBG could take her out and I could have a break. Apparently she woke up screaming 5 minutes later. He came back rather frazzled having tried in vain to settle her again.

Is cranial osteopathy a load of nonsense? I'm considering all options at this point. I'm hoping it's just a phase as she used to sleep so nicely after a feed.

Rastus had it and i can't say it really helped any. I think it's a natural progression. Rastus slept well for the first few weeks but as soon as he became aware of the world and going through growth and development phases it was all over the place. Unless you're prepared to rigorously enforce a routine you may have to just go with it. It's why we have maternity leave i think

muse MB hit 8 wks and decided to abolish all daytime naps. Even now he may have the odd nap. Yday he didn't sleep all afternoon cos I was out trying to spend some dollars. Note to self - leave child at home next time. I hardly bought a thing as having to keep stop starting due to feeds and Shiz.

It's not the fact that she doesn't nap that bothers me. It's that she cries instead. If she would sit in her chair, or on my lap, or on the playmat and just be happy I could live with that. But she cries and screams after 5 mins. So I have to do something.

I see I see.

We have similar problem in that I spy cues that he's tired so whip him upstairs and sometimes he'll sleep for a short time or he'll switch to wide awake and cry, wail, sob and hyperventilate until forever. Least it feels like it is.

I watch for cues and throw her in the sling. At least that works. On the bright side, I think she might be gearing up to going to bed earlier. So I might get my evenings back soon.

muse don't beat yourself up about it all, it would be unusual if she DID have a routine at this age - unless you were one of those nutters who'd lay her naked on cold tiles to prevent her sleeping at certain times! Crying can be fighting due to over-tiredness, I just tried to keep calm and quiet and give reassurance via touch or proximity. Did not wish to invent elaborate sleep-ruses which would later blow up in my face.

I don't understand how you can force babies to have a routine. Way too difficult. No, I'm not bothered with routine. Just want to try and have a happy baby as possible. I asked for advice over on sleep and someone said they were trying not to pick their baby up too much so it didn't get used to being held. How miserable does that sound?

I get the not becoming overly reliant on one method of sleep. But surely the whole point of having a baby is to give it lots of cuddles? Won't be long until they don't want cuddles anymore.

There seem to be about a billion types of mental out there and a book to support each and every one. :( People need more confidence in their decisions.

Oh Bear will still be getting cuddles when he's 15 - IN FRONT OF HIS FRIENDS! In fact I'm planning to turn up early to pick him up from the school disco and ask one of his friends to dance with me! Plenty of kissing & cuddling yet.

(n.b., I don't mean I'm going to be kissing & cuddling his 15 year old friends. That is wrong. )

Muse I totally agree. Peppa is carried about and cuddled a lot as I realise that I probably won't have anymore children and there is nothing better than snuggling a little baby. Saying that mini Oke likes a lot of cuddles but after hearing "MUMMY! CUDDLE!" from his door after putting him back to bed for the 25th time I do get a little fucked off. Mr C says I need to be prepared for about 2 to 3 years when he is a teenager when he probably won't even want to speak to us never mind have a cuddle.. However, I am a routine fan but not at the expense of plenty of cuddles and comforting.

Routine? Woss that??

Only routine we have is bedtime and that was kind of introduced at 10/12 wks and then I got my evenings back.

Any excuse for a cuddle me.

alps me and regster are meeting up again!

She went to sleep just before 9pm. She has never done that before. She's done 10pm a handful of times, but never 9pm. I went and had a lovely long bath without being interrupted. I hope it's not just a one off.

We did discover today that she'll sleep in her car seat while driving fast. Which is good as we have to go up North to visit the in-laws. There was 5 minutes of horrendous crying and then we went zoom on the motorway and she conked out. Those 5 minutes felt like forever though as she was in the back and we couldn't do anything for her. We were about to pull into the services when she stopped. Who was it who said we all do controlled crying in the end?

muse can you fb me your address please

I have done so.

On cuddling teenagers, what I think you are all forgetting is teenagers smell. Teenage boys smell of BO or Lynx. Teenage girls smell of godawful cheap perfume. In my day it was Bodyshop White Musk, Exclamation! or Tribe. So you may not want to cuddle them that much. At least not without a mask on.

Not so much controlled crying, more having the confidence to know whether a cry is going to lead to sleep or escalate into inconsolable bawling Muse...and usually the crying gets worse and worse until bumpf they're alseep.

I've found that BC doesn't like being rocked or jiggled to sleep but a finger rammed into his mouth whilst being cuddled usually works. He is going to be a thumb-sucker like his sister and has so very nearly able to do it.

Lovely day today. ILs left this morning - yippee. Having a sunflower race so planted the seeds with LC today....God help us if she doesn't win, spent the afternoon at the stables loading the car up with sacks of compost & manure for the garden (LC loves digging) then wandered down to the river to play pooh-sticks and walk muttley. Idyllic fun. Then home for homemade birthday cake (thank-you Mary Berry) and tea, both kids bathed & asleep by 7:30, large glass (or two) of wine. Heaven

muser We've had that crying in the car - coming back from Austria. But what can you do? :( You can't just pull over on the motorway to comfort (when you're still 5 hours from home) - and if they will insist on throwing away any toy/dummy/comforter what can you do bar turn up the radio and grit your teeth? :(

silv I'm very envious (obviously!) - although I do expect to be swinging by her's in June and your attendance will be mandatory obviously!

Yesterday my monster was awake for 12.5 hours . As predicted, he did fall asleep in the car. 30 seconds before I pulled in to the supermarket and 30 seconds before I arrived home.

donttry turned up on the PESH thread to congratulate laurie - the last one to come from the original thread.

Kate Your day sounds absolutely idyllic! :)

Anone worried that the cuddles go away - TT is nearly 4 and loves her cuddles as much as ever.

A quick (but late - sorry!) word of respect here to Med. LG was hospitalised with suspected meningitis at 9 weeks, with the lumbar puncture and all that crap. I cannot begin to imagine how worrying it must be within days of birth. Glad you are all home together now.

LG has got conjunctivitis atm. I fear the poor boy has his father's constitution and is in practice for a lifetime of manflu. He managed to wipe snot into his eyes last week and now his eyes are revolting. The doctors say just try and keep cleaning them with cooled boiled water. Well, that wasn't too hard the first time we did it. 50 goes later and we just throw the bowl of water at his face and hope some hits the spot.

Have had mysterious foreign-climes brother over for the weekend. He doesn't do kids, but the look on his face when TT ran to the door and yelled "Uncle Foreign!" and threw her arms round him was priceless. Of course he then proceeded to screw up my children with overexcitement, chocolate and no sleep.

Silv and I are having a horsey-ESH meet up next week. We are going to gallop through fields of waving grass with the wind in our hair and the sun on our face, carefree! Or it might be a plod along a track on slightly unfit wheezing horses with a bit of British Bank Holiday rain on our heads. Who knows?

box and silv - a horsy ESH meet up? Now you're talking!! Love it. Hope you have a fab time.

box Bonnie had conjunctivitis several times when she was wee. I sympathise. We ended up having to use antibiotic drops and I blame that for the breastfeeding thrush we ended up battling for months. If you can knock it on the head with the boiled water that's definitely preferrable. We carried boiled water in a little bottle with cotton wool balls around with us, and cleaned her eyes at every oportunity.

Then when we were in France we discovered they sell little 1ml disposable squirty things of saline solution for babies. If you can get hold of a packet they are brilliant for keeping eyes clean no matter where you are.

Isn't breastmilk meant to be good for conjunctivist?

Meds I've only just caught up with your post - how utterly terrifying! I'm more glad than ever that EA is home after a very speedy recovery so far. Honestly, it makes me shudder...........

Camomile tea also works well for nipping sticky eyes in the bud but not so convenient when you're out and about.

As for the cuddles thing I don't think GF and the like ever said don't cuddle your baby - that just comes from idiots people misinterpreting her ideas. Like Okes I'm a routine person as I -am a control freak like the predictability of it so I can actually get on and do stuff. Both LC and BC get loads of cuddles - you can't beat it for that great warm & fuzzy feeling and you'd have to have a heart of stone to want to deprive your kids of that.

Any of you mat-leavers missing work??? Am already starting to crave some intellectual stimulus....p'raps is because I don't have a job to go back to [dunno]

Right, off to feed ducks and have a picnic with the Box gang.