November 05 Babies - They're here!

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Well, some are here!

Karma - Ash definitely had a growth spurt at 10 days-ish and again at 3 weeks (am now waiting for the 6 week one tho have 2 weeks to go!) At each one, so far, he has gone from feeding 3-3 1/2 hrs apart to 2 hrs. Knackering!
Glad you have a good midwife, makes a lot of difference.

Rodeo - physiological 3rd stage is where you let the placenta deliver naturally rather than being given an injection to deliver it. Takes longer I think, was 50 mins for Ash's to come out whereas with Tessa's I had the injection and it only took a few minutes.

OK, we have given up on the orange flavoured burps (Infacol) as it wasn't making much difference, even when we upped it to 2 doses. Now trying good old-fashioned Gripe Water and it seems much better - getting real burps and what comes out the other end doesn't seem to cause him too much of a problem any more. Only been on it for 2 days tho so watch this space

Right, baby asleep so am going to follow the 'sleep when your baby sleeps' advice that is impossible to do in the day with a toddler to entertain.

Night all

Thanks nova for the birthday bear! xx Thankyou to everyone else for your birthday messages!
As it was , we went shopping on saturday-wow-what a task with 2 children, was cream crakered when I got home, then had the worst evening as was crying all evening(???) and then Alfie was up all night so I ended up with 2 1/2 hrs sleep-and i couldnt even have a lie in as my father arrived at 9.30am from kent, I looked like death warmed up!

Have seemed to have lost appetite and thirst, but today thankfully Im starting to feel hungry again, and not just eating because I know I have to. Alfie still going reasonable time between feeds and still only feeding for 10-15 mins at a time, but you can hear him gulping and slurpingso he must be taking it in! m/w came today and weighed him, hes gone down to 7lb 5oz, so has lost 270g, apparently theyre allowed to lose 300g so hoping it wont have gone down any more by the next weigh-in. still cant
get over the size of him-alex was never that tiny and he only lost 2oz after his 1st week, Alfie is in tiny baby clothes bless him!

I never got my planned 3rd stage of labour as I started hemarraging(sp?) so they wanted cord clamped+cut and placenta out pronto, so I agreed as It was in my best intrest, Im not too dissapointed though as I am still in shock from getting through it with just G&A and water-cant beleive the pain though, think it may well be last baby as I dont think I can do that again!

Co-sleeping- Ive got one of those cots that the side comes down and under and you put it right up against the bed-god its lush, its deff the lazy way!!! its so easy as i only have to lean over and grab him rather than get out of bed and walk to other side of room, the last 2 nights though have found him very hard to settle after the 4/5am feed so have had to strip him down skin to skin and co-sleep with him on my chest,its nice, but i dont really like to do it as i dont want to make a rod for my own back IYSWIM, but then I dont have much patience at 4am in the morning to be trying other ways

b/f is going better now, have started feeding off left boob again today as it seems to have healed-2 days break from feeding of it was oviously good for it, cant believe I can get 4oz of left boob now when pumpingIm officially becoming a milking machine!

It was robs first day back at work today, was really scared, but it was easier than i thought it would be, actually was prob the easiest day ive had since i came home, prob due to the fact rob makes just as much mess as the children and is more often than not, a hinderance rather than a help!

Alfie has now caught alexs cold-fantastic...

right, now sat here typing one handed as baby clamped to boob!, so im off xxx

Doing the night shift here - rocking baby to sleep. Always swore I never would, but 40 mins of crying was enough

Nova - ditto on bad dreams - lat night dreamt I just stopped ds rolling off the bed, then dreamt I drowned him in the bath, was trying to get him out but couldn't in time. Are u having probs with DH relationship after having baby? I think my DH has PD

Rodehoho - ds scratches his face, but not the hair.

Karma - mine had growth spurt around ten days somewhere. Can your milk supply be low even when there is still milk in the breast? Cos I wondered about ds crying if that might be reason, but always plenty of milk - maybe the quality isn't as good?

I co-slept first night as we were in hospital and neither of us were sleeping a wink. And I have to say it was magic. But I have too many nighmares about suffocating him etc. and waking up panicking because I can't find him even tho' we have never had him in our bed at home! Plus DH has big elbows!!!!!

Rodehoho - how do you post baby pics? i'd love to as very proud of mine!

Tessas mum - is gripewater OK for breastfeeding? And how d'you know if he needs it - mine gets hiccups constantly!

I'm lamenting cos ds was doing so well on GF sleeping at all the right times, until his 3 week growth spurt and now its all messed up! So now I'm just feeding every 2.5 to 3 hrs, at least he's more awake and feeding better, but seems so hungry! And crying!

Any of your with unsettled babies use a sling? Or thought to use a sling? Both Tigermoth and dd love it. Comfy, warm and close to a body which always goes down well. DD (2years) still wants to be carried in it when she sees Tigermoth being put in it. You can use cloth slings up to 4 years of age!!!

So many benefits.. like having two hands for MNetting

I used a Baby bjorn with dd at first, but once I felt comfortable and proficient with the sling.. well I never looked back.. baby carriers usually are only good for the first 6 months, then your baby gets abit big and its a tight squeeze.

I am contemplating starting a thread on Slings and how to use them... A Papillon / MN online course so to speak!

Anyone interested?

OOH yes please do a thread, and post a link as I might not get to looking for it

I have just ordered a slingeasy, but don't know which positions are betterfor what. And also can you really still do stuff with a big bump in front of you blocking your view?

Cheers for responding beartime I will post the link once its up and running.. need to go and lie down now... Tigermoth is happy in the sling, but I need a rest

Have you seen the antenatal thread? There's a message fron LilJ saying her connection went down and she's not had her baby yet....but he had a sweep yesterday and if that doesn't work then she's being inducted on Weds evening.

Thanks for the info Tessasmum, I've realised I haven't got much of a clue about labour, I've only had sections (I am an expert on them though )

Papillon, a sling thread sounds great, which one do you use?

Beartime you can put your pics in the Members Profile discussion section of mumsnet. If you're piccies are too big to put in you can paste them to Paint and reduce their size by going into the stretch/skew bit in the toolbar...I think I've got that right, if not ask again and I'll have a proper look Or you could post them to me and I could do it for you if you like.

Right off for some brekkie x x x

Morning girls just managed to catch up with the thread a bit and it seems that everyone is doing well. Can't believe we've nearly all made it to the other side now, where did the year go.

Things with us are fine Ben is being an absolute star thankfully and is very excited about putting the xmas tree up today.

Thomas however, is a lot more hard work, he is a nightmare to wind even with the help of gripe water and cooled boiled water so I'm finding that I feed him, wind him and get him to sleep only to have him yelling the house down half an hour later as he is in pain, so we wind him again etc this normally goes on till he's demanding his next feed, not quite sure where the 3 hours in between go but his yelling sure is deafening!!!

We've been backwards and forwards to the hospital for tests as he is still jaundiced, but he looks a lot better now than he did at first, so hopefully it will be gone completely soon.

Lack of sleep is now getting to both of us and I worked out I got 15 hours sleep from Thursday to Sunday while we stayed at my mil's, most nights punctuated with a drive down the dual carriageway to get a yelling Thomas to sleep.

Well hope you guys that are meeting up have a good time and enjoy cooing over each others babies, make sure you post some pictures.

Haven't come up with a xmas name yet, but as I don't get much chance to post these days, xmas will probably have been and gone before I get round to it.

Right, better go as Ben is splashing in the bath chanting red nose reindeer, so I'd better make sure some water is still in the bath rather than all over the floor.

Love to all Beks

Hellooo everyone.........

{{{{{{{Hugs all round on this tired morn}}}}}}}}}
OMG there are so many posts & I can't keep up!
Sorry I won't be at Giraffe today, I think my head might fall off .... or possibly my legs......
Karma...cannot believe yor baby sounds exactly like mine in your description on Sunday....how amazing! Elizabeth also gulps down milk & air as an apparently delicious cocktail and then needs to be burped a few times...is awake & v. alert a lot ...same! Also sometimes feeds a short 10-15, sometimes much longer..........all perfectly normal since you were asking....follow yr instincts with breast-feeding....look at her and ask yourself does she look well? Does she seem herself? Is she starting to fill out her wrinkles and developing a double chin? Regular wet/soiled nappies? Etc.... if you think she's ok then she most probably is, you are the expert on your baby.....
Oh BTW, Congrats on painting yr toes, isn't mobility great?!
Hello there Papillon, 29/10 is a very cool day to have a birthday is it not? Mind you, I just love birthdays whenever they fall..... I don't write, apart from on here , but you do don't you? How's it going? BTW I use a sling a lot too, am going to try it out on my back soon....have u tried this?
Tessa, lol at your daughter breast-feeding/expressing milk for her dolls....v.sweet!
nova sorry to hear you're feeling so vulnerable, it's not surprising... 1st baby is such a massive life changing experience , I know how fragile I was.....you'll be ok I think, you'll find new ground and firmer footing as you go along but it's hard to learn & keep moving forward at the same time...sometimes u need 2 stop & take stock/think a while....you're doing a lot, go easy on yourself...this is a massive period of readjustment for us all isn't it?.. Why not discuss your feelings with your man? Also your hormones are 'rejigging'= unpredictable/swinging emotions. Hang in there.
rodeho, Hi.and thanks for silky advice...will try those. BTW I had phys. 3rd stage 3 times now, took 45 mins to arrive this time, cord not clamped(that was a first), and I was pleased..
did not keep the placenta though Papillon, or cord, tis not for me but can understand you keeping yours.
tessa 1st two phys I had they clamped the cord really fast like with you, can really understand how you feel....re:midwives with cord-clamping terrets!
sarah good luck with your house moving!
Hi busy and everyone! GTG.

morning all,
DIEGE have you found times yet???
Im expecting my mam,nana and aunt who are coming down for the day My nana has not seen joshua yet so should be fun!!!
well must go and get some dinner ready for when they arrive
twinkle joshua

Busy - really pleased that bf going well and boob has healed. Also, well done on becoming milking machine. Was REALLY impressed (and rather jealous!) that you got 5oz on your first go. It took me about 3 weeks to work up to that much when I started expressing with Tessa tho did get 4oz yesterday on my first go this time.

Can I join you in the 'baby with a cold' gang? I've got it too and I'm just waiting for Tessa to get it in time for the w/e when my mum is coming over from N. Ireland to meet Ash.

Beartime - Its Ash that has the gripe water not me (sorry if I misunderstood you there!) so fine for bf. He seemed to be in pain at times - crying and pulling his legs up then would do a massive fart and be happy again. As it was very difficult to get a burp out of him all the wind was coming out the other end and giving him grief. The gripe water is making him burp much more and although the farts are just as impressive he doesn't seem to be in pain with them any more.
We are just giving him a half dose before most feeds (ie when I remember!)

Beks - sounds like Thomas is giving you a hard time. I'm glad Ben is being such a star though. We seem to have got over the honeymoon period here and Tessa is now trying to see how flexible little babies are.

Nova & JenJam - good to have lunch with you both today.

Nova - I'm impressed you braved the tube. And you look so slim - already. I'm envious you are back in your pre-pregnancy clothes.

Jen - Finn looked so sweet in his bear outfit.

Look forward to a cinema trip with you girls soon.

I posted my pic!

Nova are you really back in your pre-preg clothes? How long did it take? I REALLY need to know how long it takes from anyone who can tell me, cos we're going away for two months and I don't know whether to take the clothes or just my maternity stuff...

JenJam - re: Surestart, ring 7527 5959 to find out if you are in the area.

beartime - I've got stones and stone to lose, so it will be a good six months, if not more for me...........

Cor tandem feeding is dropping the weight off me... bit of a concern actually and am going to speak to my midwife about it all. Finding it hard after C-Section to eat big amounts and am not finding I have a big appetite anyhow!! Back to my pre-pregnant weight already

Londoner I carried dd on my back once she was older... really liked it, especially once they get over 1 year old And yes I do write, more and more... a friend who is a illustrator of childrens books and author wants me to write him stories to illustrate. Not easy writing kids stories though.

Beartime - sorry, it really seems to depend on any number of variables. I got back to pre-pg weight after Tessa in about 3-4 months by bf and eating like a horse, then lost another half stone without even intending to. However when I stopped bf about a stone went back on so beware
Others find bf keeps the weight on.

Where are you going for 2 months anyway, somewhere exciting?

I have started a thread for discussions about slings for all those interested

Sling thread

America worst place to lose weight of course [grin

DH is from there, and a missionary, so have to go back to make sure people still remember who they're giving money to

Pap - you may have answered this in your other thread, haven't read it yet - but can u put them on your back with slingeasy - it's not one of the listed positions? And how do you do it if you've got no-one around - I'd be scared of dropping baby!

By the way have you guys tried swaddling? Just tried it the first time today and it WORKED . DS was getting restless so put him in cot, started crying, left him 5 mins, didn't settle, so burped him, settled him, started crying again, cuddled him till eyelids started to close, put him down, started crying again,started getting desperate and thought lets try swaddling. As soon as I tucked the final bit of sheet under him he went quiet!

I'm still getting red bleeding on and off at 4 wks - anyone else having that? I haven't been out and about that much so I don't think I'm doing too much...

beartime - I'm getting red bleeding too - but I'm not worried about it.

Hi all. Still not quite ready to join you! Being induced this evening if contractions don't pick up soon!

Nova, JenJam & Golden - would have loved to come to lunch but not very mobile right now, but count me in for next time!! I will have a baby by then .

No news from ChaCha still? I hope everything went well for her. Kristina has also disappeared so I'm thinking she'll be joining post-natal thread soon as well.

Haven't read this thread before as have been too of all the people who have babies already, but sounds like I've got a lot to look forward to! And maybe should have appreciated the last week a bit more? Nahhhh it's been hell, can't wait to meet him/her!

Will hopefully post good new soon!

J xx

Beartime I am bleeding red still - midwife does not seem worried.

I sort of swaddle in that ds is wrapped up in a fleece cotton blanket - so snug but has mobility of arms. He is in it most of time... the blanket goes up around the back of his head which keeps him warmer and he seems to sleep better. Then he sleeps under our duvet next to me.

dd slept in a black silk nightie of mine last night.... and pranced off to play group in it... she is such a princess

Good morning mums and babies. I'm getting depressed over on the other thread all alone. So thought I woudl come and annoy you by telling you that i slept ALL NIGHT last night!! so there!!!! well apart from the two hourly trips to the loo, but I can do that in my sleep now , so that doesn't count. Your descriptions of your nights are bringing it back ALL TOO VIVIDLY Wishing you lots of naps today when your babies are sleeping

Beartime - after Ds I bled for 9 weeks. Mw were not bothered - they said 6-8 weeks is normal. i dont think its affected by what you do or dont do - just your body.I have to admit i find it really gross and one of the worst bits of after the birth - especially with the stiches and these gross sanitary towels [yuck]. Hopefully will stop soon.

Hi LilJ and Kristingle - hope you have your babies SOON!