July 2010: Weaning's in full swing, the kitchen floor's covered in ming

[CakeandRoses]

And voila: our 6th postnatal thread... which neatly works out roughly one a month [maths genius emoticon]

Im very rarely in during the day so he sleeps where ever, Id go crazy if I had to stay in just so he sleeps in the cot.

at illegal wrestling moves tsc, sounds a joy

you don't have to stay in all day dh, that's what i'm saying but if you want him to learn to sleep on his own, in his cot, day or night, you'll need to stay in for the couple of hours it'll take to get him to nap. if you'd rather not do that then you'll probably need to accept that he just won't sleep the way you want him to for the foreseeable future

oh melissa, that sounds terrible. did the christening go well tho?

hope things look up for you there.

thanks for the advice re potty training. i sent him to nursery today and asked them to handle it how they thought best so they're going to give him a go and let me know how he got on and whether they think he's def ready. if he does well today then i think you're right, i ought to just go for it again.

dh and cake i totally sympathise with how u are both feeling. We had a really bad night again, he was up at 10.10, just as i was dropping off! then again at 2.20, 3.15 when he was up for around an hour. thought id got him settled and he woke again 10 mins later so we went into the spare bed and he woke for the day at 6.50ish. Each time he wakes he cries, most times his dummy sorts him out but sometimes, like last night he cried with it, with me etc and he was doing the thing which i find most annoying that pelvic thrusting thing, in my arms. So like u DH i also got a little annoyed. It did seem he had tummy ache which is probably my fault because of the amount of food i shuveled in last night. Hes got fingers in his mouth a lot today. I would do sleep training with him but hes still poorly so untill hes well i cant really. What do people think of the crying it out method? I have healthy sleep happy child book here and thats his reccomendation. I just want it to end and him to sleep and us to be normal, i also feel sick and fuzzy headed and i hate it, its like a giant test.

melissa thats horrible that he gets ear infections so much, i wonder why that it. D had ear and throat over xmas but right now he just cant shift this cough and chest. Hes been soooo wingey this morning hes now just sat in his bouncer chewing on his hands and watching TV. I feel like a very bad Mommy but he just doesnt want to do anything else he seems uber tired, and im not suprised. I just really really wish i had someone to just come round and see me, i feel very lonley.

cake that's exactly how S is with bf. Gets me so irritated, that's why we're up so much at night I think - he's trying to catch up for missed day feeds.

memphis it's worth an ask if the hv will have a look. Hopefully it's nothing to worry about!

melissa you sound like you've been busy! Poor L and his ear infections though :( I've got a friend whose 18 month old gets tonsilitis every fortnight like clockwork, no fun at all!

viksam I'm not a fan of cry-it-out tbh. I did try it with L, so called 3-day sleep solution and it was basically cry-it-out. It didn't work and she'd cry for aaaaaages. I hated it and was miserable so I stopped pretty quickly. I did resort to controlled crying which is a bit like cry-it-out but you don't leave them, you keep going back in to reassure them. Sorry you're feeling so lonely, I hate days like that. Can you go out this afternoon and see someone or go somewhere?

Hi all,

Wow MLIC, I wish we had weather like that. I am thoroughly fed up with winter. I find it so dreary to having to spend 30 mins dressing and undressing myself and M before we go out or in. I want spring

Well done on the steaming heap cake That made me splutter my tea everywhere and I also felt a little bit queasy

TSC I feel your pain about the breast feeding. M sometimes pinches my nipple so hard (with her nails digging in) that I really wonder if she is angry or something. NOT nice.

I have another food question for you all. I am worried that M doesn't know when she is full. She keeps eating and eating and then still has full milk feeds. She was tiny when she was born but she is now really, really chubby (everybody comments on her rings on her legs and she is chubbier than all the babies in the groups I go to. I worry that I'm overfeeding her and she will have a bigger stomach for life. I should explain that I don't do BLW. I tried it a few times and nearly had a heart attach when she choked. So I'm cooking veg, meat and rice, millet, oats or potatoes for her and sometimes fruit and then mush it up. She keeps opening her mouth and wanting more even when she already had loads and then afterwards she takes her full bf as well. Is this normal? Or should I start trying to restrict it a bit? Thanks.

On the new baby front, I read that it is as big as a sesame seed today I have no symptoms whatsoever so I'm starting to wonder if all is OK. I keep putting off to call for an appointment. Dunno why. You might be right for after the 12 weeks MLIC and WSS about it going fast, but for now it seems to be slow motion...

Sorry for the novel I wrote. As you were.

chulita I would go out but im not even dressed. Put D down for a nap at 12.20 and hes crying 20 mins later.........why!! I wanted a kip myself, im so soooo tired just feel like i could cry muself to sleep like he is doing now. Hes been crying now for nearly 10 mins, i hate it but what else can i do, the child is so tired he needs to sleep.

trudyla you really, really don't need to restrict M's diet at all . Babies know when they're full and some have bigger appetites than others. They don't overeat, they take what they need. As long as she's opening her mouth for more, give it to her! If she's taking full milk feeds as well it just shows she's got a healthy appetite. The gorgeous chubb rings will whittle down once she starts crawling/walking. Don't let anyone tell you that she's eating too much, they just don't at this age. Enjoy the lovely cuddley shape she is cos she'll be a lean fussy toddler before you know it! :)

viksam sorry you're having a rough day. S had a very bad night but has been asleep for an hour now (unlike L who's in her room but singing Postman Pat to herself). Has he gone back out again? When S wakes up after less than 30 mins I give him about 10/15 mins to resettle (ok, ok, I know I said I don't like cry-it-out but I don't pick him up straight away!) I wish we were closer, I'd happily pop round and harrass you this afternoon. Hope your day gets a lot lot easier soon!

well lyndon really pleased the hv she cant believe hes pulling himself up in the cot and standing at furniture, dont think she believed me but he did it in front of her!!! she is reffering him to a dietician due to him getting a rash and a bad stomach when i give him dairy, told her about my fanjo she said mention it to doc as i was seeing one after hv for L, went into doc, L is on anti b's for a mild whooping type cough, mentioned the fanjo ans told me defo not right and to book an app to slash the flange as tsc said booked in on monday with the lady doc i fucking hate so havent got any probs with flashing to her as i usually refuse to see her!!! had to wait an hour to be seen though grrr!!
trudyla i dont do blw, and i feed and feed and feed L, he shouts if i stop, he will eat all his then try and grab at my plate,i mix rice and oats in to fill him up, he too has rolls on rolls on his legs and arms and a few chins to go with them, hv just said she is impressed that he will eat that much and to keep going! when i take him out people think he is about a year so he isnt small!!

right i have made another apointement at the docs,
i changed his nappy before his brief nap and i notice
d he had a red patch on his scrotum.....i thought id wait for a while to see if it goes down but it hasnt, no idea what that is, maybe its glands?? He had a dirty nappy when i went up so hes down here now playing and in a much better mood, how long that will last i dont know.

Thanks chu i wish someone who could just help was closer. I dont feel like i can talk to my DH as he is also struggling. Might cry at the docs if i havent made myself feel better by then!

Yes, I've been wondering at what point babies stop being good at self-regulating. J is a little chubster and can eat and eat. With all this stuff in the media about how obese toddlers turn into obese adults it does worry me a bit! Plus you're not meant to give babies/toddlers low fat stuff so J has full fat milk on his cereal, 10% fat greek yoghurt etc.

I have a cold and feel crap. Am hibernating on the sofa while J naps, bliss!

Viksam crying at the doc is not such a bad plan - it will show him/her how bad you are feeling! You poor love, wish there was something we could do to help.

tsc I sympathise re the illegal wrestling moves. However much I tuck my hair behind my neck when feeding in bed he still manages to grab it and pull. The fishhooking is v annoying too especially with sharp nails.

viks are you the one who lives in somerset? only I'm driving to Dorset in a fortnight and I go straight through Yeovil (mind you that's the far corner of somerset)

Chu i live in Yeovil! where do u go in dorset? is this to stay at the mil? have i rememberd that right?? Well little man is again too tired to be true, so im going out for a drive then to the doc so i hope he gets some sleep. Id put him down but i dont think he would sleep so off we go. dh is working late tonight and was exhausted yesterday after his london weekend so hes really had nothing to do with D for a few days now, kind of learning how hard it must be for single moms!

Hee hee! tsc is the mil from dorset lady. We're heading off to Bovington, we used to live there til October and I'm hoping to pop down and visit my friends. Maybe a lunch stop in Yeovil is on the cards then

Oh my goodness, congratulations trudyla! I'm very happy for you, if incredibly jealous! I read your news while I was waiting for a pg test result, which was negative unfortunately. Make sure you keep us posted on how it's going x

mlic that's not good at all but I can't help being a bit

I have teeth marks on my wrist from this morning....

His favouring is rolling away from me with my nipple in his mouth, and letting it 'pop' out of his mouth. It wouldn't be so bad if it didn't have to make it past the 4 razor blades he has for teeth.

...where is everyone?

Ooohhhwwwwww i thought i had a really good memory then, clearly not haha! Lunch in Yeovil would be fab if u can spare the time, when u heading down?
Mylife Devon has got into a 20 min habit at the moment, its well annoying.
Dr gave Devon the once over and said his chest sounded much better, also mylife i think ur right about nappy rash, doc said it was just sore skin so thats good.
Fuck fuck fuck, his been up twice now already, the second time we let him cry for twenty mins untill i went in and he had a dirty nappy! If id have know that id never have let him cry. Its because hes been ill is why hes not self settling, i so mad about it, i really dont think its my fault but to get out of it now we all have to suffer and Devon the most, poor baby, he knows no different now after being poorly for so long.
Id be really interested to hear what you all do to help ur lo's self settle.