July 2010: old-skool, the worm, commando and shuffling on the bum: that's the way crawling's done

[CakeandRoses]

Well that gives them all of about 14 day's worth of chat to get crawling then

evening all,

memphis we all think you're doing great, please don't keep beating yourself up about how you feel, it's the last thing you need. you've had down days - yes but also plenty of days where you've been full of happiness and love for L, he'll feel that

hope you can get some more help this week but in the meantime keep talking to us.

woodlands hope he gets better soon, poor mite. guitars have always worked wonders here!

cheers wss, i was just wondering that too re tsc's ex so you saved me the trouble of asking! tsc i think i remember you saying ages ago that he was v rich - did he make he money his via music?

and excuse me - i'm covered from head to toe with weeping carpet burns and bruises and no-one cares

the thing is he was such a good baby, now he cries when dh leave the room, i cant settle him like dh can, i feel like because of the way i am he can sense it, im worried that if talking at group has made me like this after one week and i know its the birth that has messed me up and im going to have to talk about it so i know this will probably make things worse, i just hope this holiday chills me out i must be a bloody mare to be around (thanks for all your lovely messages!)

cakes hope your bruised pride arse heals soon

yum on the baileys and choc bread and butter pud mlic sounds lush!

thanks for your thoughts guys, have to say i'm trying not to worry but i'm praying extra hard as it's definitely more scary for me now i'm a mummy.

cakes how's your bumps and bruises?? very lucky neither of you were seriously hurt. also very of your waffle maker but think if i had one i'd weigh about 20 stone!!

memphis sorry if i ruined your dinner hun. i feel for you so much right now and i'm sure you're not a pain to be around. depression sucks and can make you feel so isolated from people but everyone just wants you to feel better. it may actually help talking about the birth at group as 'they' reckon once you start talking about a traumatic experience then you can start to deal with it.

stac there's some cool-sounding scottish/glaswegian phrases you could use as your nickname i'm sure. e.g. Hale jing bang

i'm seriously aching, guys. i move and my arse is on fire! that was bare, naked rump i was sledging on y'know.

my neck hurts, my elbows hurt, my shoulder hurts, my armpit hurts but my bloody arse most of all!

i think i am now entitled to put my feet up with a large glass of merlot, next to a roaring fire and to send DH up to do any dummy runs - non?

mlic there's a certain pride when your offspring enjoy your sunday roasts isn't there? F just wolfed his down and Lady A daintily gummed carrot and parsnip.

nixster a friend of mine had that 'op' too and said it didn't hurt a bit, was just a tad undignified. hopefully it'll be out of the way you'll be totally fine soon.

the good thing about waffle makers and the like is the fact you have to put effort in to make the goodies so don't tend to do it too often. there's a diet guy who said you should only eat cakes etc you've made yourself for that reason

i love ian brown tsc, didn't know you know/knew him! seen him live a couple of times - first time he was sooo bad (and not altogether with it by the look of things) and the second time he was great

Stac forgot to answer you earlier re stuff to do with in laws, we have a week's holiday with them in March at a nice little seaside town a couple of hours away. It will prob be our holiday for the year so hopefully will be good.

Last year while staying with us they would do stuff like take dd1 off for the afternoon to park or beach and leave me to have a break (was pg with dd2 at the time), also they are really into walking and we have a big national park nearby with some walks so maybe they will want to do some of them. Some of the walks are quite short so dd1 could manage them.

They're OK most of the time but a bit fussy and hard work sometimes, hard to relax around them. Dh has never told them he smokes so he pretends he doesn't while he's here (I say "You are nearly 40 fgs, just TELL THEM YOU SMOKE!") so he gets all grumpy while they're around. Plus it's his stepdad and they don't get on that well (but better than they used to).

Sorry, that was a bit of an essay

tsc that sounds quite exotic for me lol, but i'm going to nick it since i have serious lack of imagination

Why is dh on a leave ban chulita? Thats rubbish, dp's work does the same

memphis just want to echo that we think your fab and l has an amazing mummy. Thinking of you.

Poor J woodlands do you think it could be teething?

ah feck i missed a full page, scrap last message

hah, just misread an email of my sister's, talking about her dog whose just had an op and was saying she was 'trying to stop her licking her cut'. my mind added an extra 'n' to the last word

aw cakes your poor arse, do you have a rubber ring to sit on? Friction burns are the worse. Enjoy the merlot

Memphis talking it through will help you get your head round it

memphis sending hugs. I know how you feel, but you are doing a great job. Things will get better. talking definitely helps and we are all here to listen. I went to a grp last time and it was hard talking about things to start off with, but it did make me realise what was the trigger, and helped me make steps to feeling better. No clue what it is this time though

I've had a melt down week, which is why I haven't been on here - but today felt much better (no idea why as dh left at 8 to go on a bike ride for nearly 3 hours). Can't even tell you why as I can't remember now, but it's always silly little things that set me off.

nixter I know a few people too who have had laser treatment and all been fine after. Hope it goes ok for you too.

Ouch cakes! Hope you're feeling a little less sore! Am also at your waffle maker. Yes pretty much one squeeze per potato, depending on size. Most of time I don't even peel them - cook them in microwave on the jacket potato setting, then slice in half, 'rice' and mix together with some butter. Soooo much quicker than peeling, cutting, boiling, draining then mashing and mixing. (and much less lumpy)

chulita sorry to hear dh has ban on leave. hope you manage to get something sorted soon. lol at 'Dior' for name of child - my sodding phone keeps changing words on me! As it takes so long to type the posts in the first place I don't always preview them

melissa poor you. hope with pnd, isn't it 'just' hormones rather than anything in particular being the cause? pleased the group is helping

re the ricer - can you use it for other things? e.g. swede? if so, i bet it's great if you puree/mash for your baby.

what make do you have?

oh and does it take ages cos you have to do a small bit of potato at a time?

lol @ your sis's email cakes

Melissa cakes is right hun its the hormones. I was classed as high risk with R as i had it with J. Currently on anti-d's as i was scared of relapse. You know you'll get there. Best advice i was give was to take each day as it comes then you'll notice less bad days and more good. You and memphis are doing great

thanks ladies. support group was with dd - not enough staff or funds to run them now But I have some good friends that are also mums, and one has also recently been told she has pnd (although am sure I told her 4 months ago!) so I guess we are our own support group. It really helps having someone understand. Yes I think it is mainly hormonal, but in some instances there are triggers, like traumatic birth, sick baby (dd spent a week in SCBU after a lovely hb). Oh and lack of sleep doesn't help

cakes my ricer is an "Original GastroMax" which cost about £15. No it doesn't take very long as it's quite large - you can do a whole potato, but I find because I am lazy and don't peel the potatoes, it can be quite hard to break the skin. It can be used to mash anything I guess. I used it to mash/puree some butternut squash and sweet potato a few days ago - worked a treat!

Looks like I am in for a fun night - dh feeling poorly (does have a temp) so went to bed at 8.30, ds was screaming at 8 - think it's his teeth poor thing, as he wasn't fully awake, and dd threw up at 10. Going to try to get some sleep while I can!

Hope you all have a restful night

Cheers for that melissa.

Hope things improve there!

tsc that'd be cool to run independantly. Do you reckon you will? What way does the vote swing there? Total tory stronghold here. < Note neutral tone so as not to turn this thread political at which point we'll all hate each other and there won't be a meet-up :-) >

cake my sympathies on your suffering, may your carpet burns soon fade into the past and be but a distant memory.
Right, now that cake 's hopefully satisfied...what waffle maker did you get? I started a thread on them about 2 months ago but no one answered - obviously people aren't that interested in them!
tsc wouldn't having J as your MP be a bit like having Arnie as your senator?
melissa I hope your DS settled for you and that you have a lovely week.
mlic I think I will go by myself, the only trouble will be juggling both children around the viewings...
stac they're doing an office move that's going to take months and they'll need to work evenings/weekends and some nights til it's done. They reckon end of July at the earliest which is a pita cos he had a leave ban on all of last year too so this will be the second year where we've not been able to go on holiday!

5 wake-ups and the day started at 5.30. I'm really wanting to start cc on the one hand but worried about his weight gain on the other...At about 3.30 both children were chatting in bed, L went for an hour and fell back asleep but S got progressively louder til I fed him. Good thing it's his half-birthday or he'd be downstairs on his own right now.

It took a while to get Dylan to sleep last night, he kept waking when I pulled my nipple out his mouth.

I think he finally went off around half 10. He then woke at half 3 but I think that might have been me rolling on him over. Then he woke at 6:45 but managed to get another hour out of him.

For those who didnt see on fb, he rolled over from back to front yesterday!
We have to tempt him with toys/the remote at the mo, he almost did it for DP.

Poor J is definitely under the weather. Last night he threw up copiously all over the bed, we had to change all the sheets and everything. He didn't have too bad a night but he's not feeding nearly as much as normal so I was finding it hard to sleep with full boobs! Makes me realise how much milk he is normally taking in. My left boob is sore and lumpy this morning, am hoping it's not another blocked duct - might have to dig the pump out again (though not sure what I'd do with the milk!). J has also just done a HUGE runny poo - i started changing his nappy and soon realised he had only just started, and he was quickly lying in a huge puddle of poo. I had to find some old towels quick to put on the carpet to transfer him to to mop him up, but he kept on pooing... nightmare! So as you can imagine one way and another I have a lot of minging washing to do, but I can't find the washing liquid dispenser anywhere (DH hung the washing up yesterday). Argh!

dh stood as a councillor in our elections last may. so glad he didn't get in!