October 08 - "I said no!"

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it appears I posted the last post... so here's a new thread

Best of luck with the reflexology :)

I do know a bit about psychology I just don't trust my judgement when it comes to childbirth. My mind goes to an odd place...

Pistachio perhaps I am part reptile! I do think I was made to lay eggs, not give live birth. I'd sit and protect that egg like no one else.

hmm - I've had to lie on my back so that they could get the foetal heartbeat in all 3 of my labours (although only for very last bit with dd as waters didn't break to show meconium until over 9cm) with well experienced midwives, so I'm afraid that it isn't uncommon. They can, however, trace it with a probe on the baby's head, which would allow you to move freely. Jeremy had one on for the last 2 or 3 mins of labour (once I could move freely again I turned over, had a couple of quick contractions and delivered him) and although I really didn't want it for him, there was absolutely zero sign of it ever having been there! Just something to consider if it comes to it.

Glad that the debrief was helpful.

Thanks CSWS, I did discuss the clip with her today too and I will get that rather than go on my back assuming it hurts more on my back this time! Did u see msg re clothes?

Really glad the debrief was useful for you HMM.

I was going to suggest a doula too, but it's probably a bit late to find someone now. I agree that making sure that DH is fully briefed so that he can advocate for you it really important.

S had the clip on the head thing. I was appalled at the time but it was completely fine. It's a much better way for the doctors to monitor apparently as it gives them a lot more information than if you just had the belt thing (sorry for the lack of technical terminology!). They told me it helps them avoid unecessary interventions.

If you found the hypnobirthing good last time, then it might bee good to have a listen to the tapes again - you'll probably find it comes back to you very quickly.

I've just been to the pictures and seen a hugely depressing film. I can't go to bed yet because I need to get it out of my head first, but I'm really tired!

What is the clip on the head? Do they insert it into you?

I wore the belt, but all of the ctx were painful in the front, not the back. It was all massive burning and pain in the front.

I hope you've been able to watch something funny on TV or read something lighthearted to get your mind off of the film, cf.

"The pictures"

"The pictures" - does that sound funny Star?

Yes, they insert it into you and clip it onto the baby's head. It's got a kind of coily wire like a telephone cable and dp said he could tell how much S was moving down when I pushed becuase of how much the wire was moving.

I'm going to call the EPU today and ask them to rescan me. My hpts are still very strongly positive and not getting any lighter and it's nearly 4 weeks since the ERPC. I'm dreading that they're going to tell me they've left some bits behind and I've got to go in and have it all done again. Wish me luck folks.

Fingers crossed for you, cf. I hope they don't have to do it again :(

Do they clip it on a bit of skin? I still don't understand. I'll look it up.

"the pictures" sounds to me like something my great grandfather might say - "the moving picture show"... I didn't realise it was used as a modern term for the cinema/movies. I learn something new every day on here! :)

Oh dear it does sound like it cf. Good luck.

Sorry hmm - I did see message and then forgot all about it! You can pass on or charity shop them.

It's not a modern term star .

Clip gets sort of pinned on to scalp.

ouch!

Not a modern term at all. Sort of like saying "slimming" instead of "dieting". I said something the other day - I can't remember what it was - and dp roared with laughter and pointed out that it was no longer the 1980s. I'm just old-fashioned I suppose (or just old).

Been to EPU this morning. Had a scan and he said it was clear. They've taken blood and I've got to go back in 48 hours so they can rule out an ectopic pregnancy. I asked them to check when my appointment for the recurrent miscarriage clinic and it hadn't been done (despite them writing it on my discharge notes and me then phoning to chase it up and being assured that it would be sorted out). They've done it now but I feel really angry that it just got missed despite me chasing it up. Grr.

I thought they had done it after the last time! Make sure next time you talk to them that it has actually been done. for you. Glad that it is all clear, though. I hope it's not ectopic.

"slimming" I thought was just a British term. I had never heard it used as a verb like that for dieting or weight loss until we got here.

I love "pictures". Maybe I'll start saying it

Star - They had assured me that it would be done last time so I thought it had been done too! The nurse today was very good and got the doctor to fill in the form while I sat there, so I know now that it's definitely been sorted.

I've just written to the hospital about it though. Not in a "I want heads to roll" kind of way, but clearly their systems aren't adequate. I can accept an administrative blunder first time round but not after I've already pointed it out to them. It's not acceptable to have to keep chasing for treatment that you've been promised and I'm now going to have to wait a extra month, which at my age makes me feel a bit panicky. I pointed this out in my complaint so maybe they will shove me up the queue a bit faster (wishful thinking probably).

Good for you for complaining CF. I have to say one of the best things I've ever done (other than marry DH and have Poppy of course!) is to finally request a debrief on the last birth. I can't help thinking I might have avoided PND if I had - we'll never know.

I had a reflexology session this morning (and my first ever foot massage!) - oh my god it was wonderful! I felt like I could melt into a puddle by the end, I drove the 20 mins home in a complete haze!

I listened to my hypnobirthing CD in the bath last night and it did chill me out so I'm going to start listening to that regularly again. I was approaching this birth all wrong, I was spoiling for a fight (with the midwives) but I need to chill out and recognise that I may not be in control and they may do things I don't like but the important thing is that I don't lose it like I did last time because I need to keep my BP down.

cf :( Glad it's sorted now.

HMM sounds like you're on your way to a lovely birth! Keep that in mind when things start to kick off for you. By "term" did you mean 40 weeks? You must be getting so excited! Does Poppy seem excited?

My BP is always stupidly low. I think that's part of my dizziness and feeling pregnant problem now. I still feel pregnant. Like I'm 8 weeks or so and just tired and dizzy off an on nausea...etc. I'm not. 100% definitely not and have tested and tested to be absolutely sure. Waiting for blood test to come back re: iron levels. I ensure high iron intake, though... so

Q did a poo for dh today on the potty. Progress for dh. He got to go pick out a toy lizard at the shop. He got to accompany DH for an Xray from his accident at the doctor today. When I got home he was talking all about seeing daddy's bones! And how the doctor looked at his boo boo, too, not just daddy's

I'm glad you asked that pistachio
I was

A boo boo! Like a scrape or a bruise! What word do you use?

I was wondering too! We call a bruise a bruise! Boo-boo is a breast or breastfeed to us!

that's funny!
I've heard children here refer to it as an "owie" .... maybe those are Americans as well :) Not sure now.

I'll get him to stop using that term for his cuts/scrapes/bruises! :)

yes, we just call them bruises! Sometimes bumps
DD has been getting droopier and droopier today, she#'s come out with a sticky eye so got her some drops as she has to have 24 hours worth to go to mnursery. As I only work 2 days I dread dread dread one of them falling ill on a wed .
Luckily she's still eating and 2 poached eggs and a fruit pot plus a walloping dose of nurofen has perked her right up!
Heating buggered again. Boiler keeps switching itself off overnight leading to cold showers in the morning but at least you can make it re-start. Tonight it will not switch on at all, and prob only worked for an hour this morning when I switched it on
It was serviced 2 weeks ago
I may need but a might keep me warmer!

That's awful, pepper. I hope you get heat soon and I hope DD isn't too unwell. My school said they aren't allowed to exclude for conjunctivitis. I checked into it and actually, it's not an excludable illness anymore. Best to keep it away and treated so it doesn't spread, I agree, though...

Pepper - How annoying. You had a problem with the boiler a couple of months ago didn't you?

I was wondering what a boo boo was too.

Can anyone suggest a decent nappy that is difficult to take off? Ds has recently started taking his pyjama bottoms and nappy (nature babycare) off before he goes to sleep. He's also quite keen on shoving his hand down his nappy for a bit of a fiddle and then his nappy leaks in the middle of the night and we have to get up and change everything. I thought pull ups might do the trick but he took them off straightaway. Grr.

I've just made a delicious peppered tofu dish from the cookbook that dp got me for valentines day. God, it was gorgeous! I can't wait to try some more things from the it.

Q must be odd. He hasn't ever put his hand down his nappy! I hear about children doing this all the time. He fiddles with his belly button (and mine if he's next to me sleeping in the early morning).

How about a sleepsuit? Then he can't get into the nappy :)

So funny, I said boo boo or owie or ouchie for a cut/scrape/bruise/sore as a child, too... in fact all Americans that I know did.

I was trying to be cheeky and think up a medieval term for it and ask if that's what you would use, cf but have too much work to do. I love the distraction of MN, though!

A sleepsuit. Doh! Of course. I think I might have to get a couple. My sister bought him lovely pjs from Gap for Christmas and it's such a shame for him not to wear them but you're right. How funny, I'd completely forgotten about them.

S still fiddles with my boobs at any opportunity too. It's been six months since he stopped BFing but he's still obsessed.