FESH Spa & Creche - The Messiah is late - 'e's a very naughty boy!

[AlpinePony]

2010 - the best year of my life, for half of it I was pregnant and for the other half had my baybee.

[OkieCokie]

Pol hello! Just quick as I am in middle of film and Mr C will get annoyed if I ignore it but yes, Peppa had blood in her vom, think it was a bit from my sore nips in the early days, I shouldn;t worry unless it continues - glad to have you here on the t'other side my lovely.

[SomethingSuitablyWitty]

Hello Feshes and new all-star graduates Pol, Mas and MrsFC. I say new - It's of course that I haven't been in for a while and hence missed all the action. But wonderful that it all went smoothly, if not always according to plan, and the new babes arrived safe and sound. So delighted for you and wishing you lots of strength and patience for those tough early weeks.

Moo hope that things are going better with the feeding. Sounds like there has been a bit of a breakthrough with the spacing etc. A word about the bottle feeds though: I think Missy has had nipple confusion or an attack of laziness or something due to the bottle - anyway, we just had two very hard days where I couldn't get her to breastfeed at all really and she was crying and screaming every time I tried. To add insult to injury, she drank an expressed bottle with no bother at all (Tommy Tippee BTW - but I guess you have tried those?). Anyway, on day three I cracked and rang the midwife in tears to ask for help. She suggested lots of skin to skin and arranged to come the next day to help to try and get the feeding back on track. Things started to improve in the meantime with the skin to skin and then, when she arrived today, Missy suddenly behaved like a hungry, but very mannerly, angel in her presence and made me look like a deranged, neurotic loon. But who cares, things seem to be back to normal on the feeding front. The midwife's theory is that she developed a bit of a preference for the bottles, due to the crazy niagara falls style let-down that I have (and you too by the sound of it!). So, it's not always easy to get the balance right...

Interesting (and reassuring) to hear that the Switty household are not the only ones not having the sexy-time. Actually, tho' I am a bit lacking in motivation at the mo', I really would like to get things back on track as it feels a bit sad and is maybe affecting closeness a bit.Kinda don't know how to go about it really. Gah. And my night wear of big feeding bra with four breast pads is not exactly zuper zexy.

curls took your advice and went cold turkey on the swaddle in order to get it over with while we were both still on hols. Replaced the cloth with a baby sleeping bag (and fingers still crossed!) the transition seems to have been made. Yoicks!

[PrincessBoo]

I don't post in here often but thought I would just offer some advice on co sleeping Poll as we did it from birth with smallchild. If you have babybird in between you and HI loop the duvet round her in a curve and just cover her with her normal blankets (or whatever you're using). Or you can put her on top of the duvet but I didn't like to do that as smallchild could just turn and latch whenever he wanted when my boob was available. If you have her on the outside you can use a bedrail for security - we had the bedside cot on that side so there was nowhere for him to go but he always wanted to sleep velcroed to me where it was warm anyway and never went anywhere near the edge. You could also use a sheet and sleep under that together and tuck it in so she can't fall out - then you can have the duvet covering just you in addition but she can have separate covers on her.

Hope that makes sense / helps :)

[PollyPoo]

Thanks Honey and Boo, that does help. TG is sleeping in the spare room at mo so BB and I have the bed to ourselves. I wasn't sure if BB should have her own little blanket or if my body heat would be enough. I guess I should just try it and see how we get on. Wish me luck!

Also fanks to Okes, hope you are enjoying your film! No blood after latest feed so maybe it was`a one off. Really trying to work on the latch now.

Right , i'm off to bed. night folks.

[PrincessBoo]

Oops sorry thought HI was your chap Poll forgot he was TG :o

[SilverSky]

Lol! HI is mine. Tho I fink he wishes he wasn't as the no sechs is getting to him. Miserable sod. Tuff.

Tues is you contracted in for compulsory once a week bedroom aerobics?

Have had strange night. MB went down awake about 730 and finally put himself to Z land. Woke at 1230 for change and feed. Woke again at 230 but was more grumbly than full in starvation cry. So tried bum change, reswaddled as was fighting it. Veh odd as he kept smiling at me! He's also started this silly attention cough. I rocked him a bit and then put him back down with White noise. Cue mire grumbles but not screaming and again he dropped back off. Awake again at 630 this time screaming so fed for 5 mins and is now smiling and dozing on me. So will put in Moses in a mo and hopefully with success. I wonder if he's coming down with something or he just woke up and was unsettled ?

Welcome BB and her mummy polly!! My pal puts a rolled up towel round baybees head - not touching as sucj but to create cocoon feeling.

Twice now this night I've woken to leaky boobs!!! Any tips? Can't wear bra in bed so have vest top with pads shoved in but pads move and have soaked thru vest and pj top. Luckily I sleep on a towel. Tried Mothercare sleep bras but my boobs are too big.

[CUNextTuesday]

At least once a week silv. Hom is a simple soul - sex = all good; no sex = relationship on rocks. Is easier to capitulate. Is only 3 hours of my time after all

[SilverSky]

Really? Crikey. What If you no likey or wrong time of month? Tell me to naff off if am being too nosey inquisitive.

PMSL @ 3hrs!! Is that per session?

[CUNextTuesday]

I don't have any time of the month cos I'm on the jab innit. Oh I tell him if I can't be arsed - I just expect the topic to be broached again in the next 24 hrs

Not 3 hrs, no . I'd be a husk.

[AlpinePony]

The most difficult thing for us wrt sex is finding a time of day when we're not the both, or one of us saying "I'm exhausted, I'll just lie there whilst you do all the work". :( This week he's been up at 4am every day for work and I'm falling asleep on the sofa before 9. Sometimes we can get it on during the day - but this morning was the first morning where neither of us had to get up in weeks it feels like.

Yay for impending holiday. I was thinking about this and thinking that normally I'm so excited to get to the mountains and ski. This year I'm so excited not to have to do any fucking cooking/washing up/grocery shopping/cleaning/dog-walking and we're got a nanny. I'm living the dream!

[OkieCokie]

Alps with your last sentence you would fit right in with the West London NCT Boden wearing set

[AlpinePony]

okie Well I suppose the difference is that I work for my money! I don't think a West London NCT Boden mummy would do their own washing up would they? The au pair would simply load the dishwasher. Ocado would deliver the shopping. The "thieving bitch cleaner who take the piss" would dust the ornaments and the dogs are disgusting creatures likely to eat my baybee so that's a no. She would however spend 15 hours creating some barely edible dish!

Gah - anyone else find their patience with others has shortened since laying? I have no end of patience with Bear - who has spent most of the weekend being difficult and/or digesting dog hair. But I find myself with limited patience when dealing with "others".

[AlpinePony]

(Except you lot who are all lovely.)

I'm serious there actually - I'd do anything I could for any of you. But most people I deal with would simply receive a dog poo in a jiffy bag posted 2nd class.

[SilverSky]

Husk!! KY anyone??

Oh I'm a snappy biatch with limited patience with dumb arses at the best of times. Throw in sleep deprivation and stupid questions and you are essentially taking your own life in your hands. Perfectly normal behaviour for a FESH - non?

Better go MB is screaming (not slept all day) and HI is doing a right hatchet job of consoling the not so little blighter.

Ps I luffs being a momma today.

[CurlyCasper]

Christ, the child has just travelled the length of the living room on her back, smacked her head off the dog's bed and started howling. But it's ok, cause my laptop's working

Thank goodness for Waybuloo. It is a lifesaver and can calm my child better than me

Bath and bedtime, then I may return.


Oh, and I have ZERO patience with anyone.

[SilverSky]

CurlsWorld nice to see you round these parts.

[rollerbaby]

Patience WTF is that?!!!

Alps I hear you. Most people in life are irritating fuckers. Particularly when you've only had 4 hours sleep. I snapped at some French shop girl in petit bateau the other day for not serving me fast enough as I was effectively boiling my baby in the hot shop.

Today has been lufferly. Lunch out in sticks in the bosom of ma famille. Nice roasty lunch, apple strudel and Babymoo was a dream. Also got him to take 40mils before we left from bottle ( not a drop more tho) this was achieved by feeding him in the bouncy chair... Genius.

Last night he did same sleep through til 1am but I had to wake him as my tits were about to explode so who knows when he would have woken... Then second wake up call at 4am unfortunately lasting til 5 as didn't feed him enough. But not too bad as me and mr moo have new 9pm bedtime policy which means we don't feel too shit. Tonight going to do 11pm dreamfeed and see if that makes a difference.

Maybe all this going to bed early might mean some how's your father but I doubt it since we are in bed now and I have a dog on top of me.

[CUNextTuesday]

[SilverSky]

moomookachoo woz you out near me again?? Could hook up one time if you wanted or not if you didn't !!!

Today I have ridden. Yay.

Child in bed at 730 awake. Put himself to sleep not long after so got to eat my dinner with both hands and whilst it was hot and now I am in bed. HI is downstairs watching Die Hard 50 billion. . My 1230 wake up call is not far off.....,

[CUNextTuesday]

FESHbirds with 6 month olds: have you dropped the 11pm ish feed yet? If so how did you do it, and if not when do you plan to?

[CurlyCasper]

i do tiny feed at about 9pm cunts, maybe later if i wait till going up to bed. Usually 2-3 ounces just to top up, and that usually does until 6 or 7am. Mind you, last couple of days she been eating less in day then screaming at 4am. Just been giving an ounce or two then getting out of there asap. I'm planning to give less and less, earlier and earlier, till she just takes more at bedtime. In bed now, so should really go back to sleep!

[CurlyCasper]

Back again. Thanks for kind words silver.

Well done with the unswaddling switty! Think earlier is definitely better. We had a really messed up day this week which resulted in overtired baby refusing to sleep, so I brought out the bug guns and swaddled her and it worked. I was amazed given how active she is now.

Two out-of-sight rolly-over incidents last night. I so want to spot her doing it. Especially as one was so quick. I popped her on the floor, turned the bath taps on, turned round and there she was on her belly.

Might get back to swimming this week. Maybe.

[SilverSky]

We tried tummy time this morning. MB is quite strong and sturdy and was ok for the first few seconds but then screamed. He is clearly not impressed.

Last night put to bed about 730. He was awake but went off to sleep in his own time. He woke at 1ish for feed and change. Then he woke at 3ish but grumbly more than hunger so checked he was ok and then stuck on the White noise and he went back to sleep til 520ish and woke coz he was wet thru. So changed and fed him and left him with HI whilst I whizzed to stables. When I left MB was asleep but allegedly he woke up again as soon as I left!!

Anyone used Baby Secrets? I've been reco'd it.

[AlpinePony]

I don't want to be a snappy, moody bitch - maybe I'm just being unlucky and crossing paths with a lot of pig-ignorant arseholes right now. :(

moo Doggy style? nice

cunty Our 11pm feed is around 10ish - I'm going to keep it up until we've made a bigger transition on to food. HV/doc last week that we should be aiming for ~600ml a day milk and the rest food - of these meals at least 1 should be fibre based. Given the face he pulled when I tried to give him porridge... Given that we're on hol for the next two weeks am not going to fuck around with routine until we're back. This sleeping through until 6am is a godsend. I suppose also if he becomes less and less interested in that 6am feed (e.g., this morning it was 7) then we can drop the late night feed.

silv I'm so fucking delighted for you that you go to ride - you must feel a bit more like you again. Even if your jods were unzipped! As for tummy-time, Bear always hated it. HV kept saying "make him do it" and we figured we would wait until he seemed ready. And that was pretty much the day he rolled on to his tummy on his own and held his head up having a good look around. I just couldn't bear to force him on to his tummy for him to scream hysterically. :(

[Cosmosis]

I do tummy time every few days and it just seems he lasts a little longer each time before screaming although a good way to do it (if enormous buzwams don't get in the way) is to lie on your back and do tummy time on your chest, so he gets to look at your face.