August 2010 - new thread ladies!

[Chulita]

New thread cos we've nearly filled the last one!

oh no! lots of poorly little ones - hope they all feel better soon.

Well done on shredding chulita! I haven't managed it at all this week so far. Must get a wriggle on!

Loads of snow here - loving it! Loving having dh at home and not having to do the school run.

Still feeding on demand here too. Hadn't even thought about not doing it tbh. Too lazy to do anything else and like the excuse it gives me to retreat to the sofa of an evening

Really fancy a new mei tai type sling for xmas - anyone got any recommendations?

I got a second hand KariMe sling last month and i love it. F is a right chubber, but doesn't give me a bad back carrying him in it.

Finally got my car back & managed to brave it without my hot water bottle companion in the end, went with abt 10 layers, massive scarf & silly hat instead! I'm not normally a hat person but needs must hey :)
Alice salopettes sound nice & cosy! I've just got some salopette type dungerees & a lovely fleecy jumper for ds off eBay for a couple of quid, if i got some too we could be matching...embarrassing mum syndrome surfacing again...

Thanks Chulita, we do just seem to be passing this cold / virus thing between us. It'll hopefully be gone for good this side if Xmas! I hope ur dd is okay too bless her, must be so frustrating esp having to wait so long for an app.

Am a scaredy cat when it comes to stopping swaddling too sparkle, I like my sleep too much!

Can I just ask; what is this shredding everyone speaks of? Sounds painful!

Greetings from the snowy north where I think I saw a polar bear in the back garden earlier..

It's so upsetting when there's something wrong. I had a little one with a temp of 38C at 4.30 this morning & I was trying to strip him off & cold bathe him with one hand & desperately google medical advice with the other. Opted for Calpol rather than NHS 24 or A&E and thankfully he seems ok if a bit sleepy/feedy today.

marzi good news re lumpy boobs. I think I'll be heading in that direction soon. My bra feels like a bag of potatoes.

blueberries what's this talk of a sling for Christmas? That's up there with an electric carver or washing machine as a pressie in my book. After a 2010 where I pushed a baby out, I think I'm due diamonds. Sadly, as this will be a year of belt tightening to allow me to stay off work for another year, I'll be happy with some Fresh bubble bath, some cosy Jack Wills track pants & socks & a box of rose & violet creams.

elusive you are a madman with your guinea fowl & three veg medley. I doubt even my DH would be that extreme & he's the guy who was making sour dough bread & tomato chutney with our own tomatoes during week one of his paternity leave (while i was practically bedridden due to my wrecked undercarriage but that's a whole other story..holding the baby while i drank a cup of tea would have been nice). I take it you'll just be
going for toast fingers & sweet potato mash this time round? A childhood of strawberry Angel Delight, Ribena, salt & vinegar Discos & corned beef sandwiches never did me any harm..:)

Actually, I think it was butterscotch Angel Delight. Happy Days!

(just wanted to post again to get the festive smiley in..)

Hello all especially the cricket watchers - weren't the first couple of overs exciting?! Just need to finish the rascals off now!
Chulita you couldn't possibly have known about the cream. Hope your dd is doing much better though.
Alice I too now have a baby waking four times in the night. Pretty gutted to be honest as she'd been sleeping through 10-6 for almost three weeks. Growth spurt? But I think my 18lb 13 week baby is probably on a continuous growth spurt!
Haven't weighed myself but think S is therefore shredding me with very little effort on my part.
News of the week in pampleland: dr tells me polyhydramnios combined with 9lb12 baby have successfully wrecked my tummy muscles. On the plus side this means the Nhs should fund a tummy tuck when I've 'completed my family'. Result! Sort of.
Weehector shouldn't you be chasing that bag for Christmas?
Elusive v jealous of your weaning commitment. Am I so wrong to think I'm going to just give S mashed up scraps from my plate once she goes for them? (lazy mummy emoticon)

Damn kids! They must hate me! DD up at 12.30, F up at 1.45, then 3.30, then 4.15. then 5am, then had a leaky nappy so complete strip off at 5.45, thn 2 more feeds by 7am. I am raring to go

Weehctor when DD had a very high temp just before her 1st birthday (it went up so quick she went purple!) the nurse said to bath her in a slightly warmer than body temp bath, wet hair then get her out and don't dry her, just put her on a towel. More effective and lowers the temp more gradually

pample hooray for tummy tuck! I seem to have more of an overhang this time, but think it is due to losing the weight quicker. Like you, my chubby baby is definitely helping

I have asked for a cheese grater that catches the cheese for christmas but i did get an eternity ring when F was born (which i can now get on - hooray!) a netbook for my birthday and a myla corset and pants for anniversary. I am just really looking forward to having huge tins of chocs around and all the other yummy food

whoa pamplemousse 18lb at 13 weeks? J was weighed yesterday and is 18lb at nealry 20 weeks, I thought that was big! I use DH's iPhone to keep up with the cricket during night feeds. last night I fed when it was 94 for 3 but had to wake DH to tell him it had been 2 for 3 at one point! I did the next feed lying down as couldn't be bothered to wake up so then didn't see the score till 7.30.

Don't get me wrong, there ain't no chance I'll be going for the guinea fowl weaning option this time round. Poor child will be lucky if he gets a home-made puree at all I suspect.

Life gets more and more fun here. S has got raging diarrhoea from the antibiotics, I've only got 10 nappies left, and I'm completely snowed it. Oh, the joys.

How about the giant maternity pads? they are bigger than any nappy

I was all set to do BLW with the twins - but when we started they were completely unable to pick anything up! They were always a bit behind with their development though... of course with BLW you'd say they weren't ready to wean but I got the baby rice out real quick cos I was desperate for them to settle better/stop crying! It did work. I notice Daniel does things much quicker than the twins so maybe he will be better at finger food, I think he will be.

As for demand feeding, until they are on solids I demand feed. When the DTs started eating good amounts of food (8m) I started sleep training them at night. They were sleeping 7-7 quite quickly then.

Marzi, great news on the scan!

Daniel's sleep's gone a bit backwards these last few days too, but he has got a cold. I wouldnh't do core night method until at least after weaning cos when a baby who just has breast milk goes through a growth spurt it will feed more and that is just as likely to be in the night as any other time so the extra feed is important.

Hello everyone, big love to Chulita Elusive Sparkle LCR Hector and anyone else poorly/with poorly little uns.

Just had a mammoth reading session to catch up on about two weeks' worth of posts. Phew! We had a long weekend away in Norfolk with no phone reception. Then things have been pretty hectic here and I haven't had a chance to log in.

I must say, am relieved to hear that other LOs out there are as unsleepy as E. I listen with growing depression to people in my NCT group whose babies are now sleeping through the night. E will sleep for 3 hours at the most, and then gets more wakey/snacky with his feeding after 4am. This last week he has regressed to waking up almost every hour for bitty feeds. Argh! Am exhausted. A couple of nights ago, I really almost lost it and felt like I must be doing something really wrong. But I actually think he's going through a growth spurt. It just feels harsh that he's barely sleeping at night, barely sleeping on the day...crap mum?

Gotta go! Crying baby...

nat so not crap, so not alone, so just plain exhausted & sleep deprived from this every 1.5 hrs feeding/waking business. I have just enough left in the tank to know i'm not crap but i'll happily admit to a. not having a scooby as to how to handle this regression either & b. Sitting in the bath tonight wondering if i had PND. Then i had a glass of wine & reminded myself that it would be weird if i wasn't a biy fuggy & detached when I haven't slept for longer than 2hrs for the last few weeks & not longer than about 3hrs in one go for 6months. Hang in there xx

Sleep deprivation dontcha just love it!
Alice the other night of the continuous 3 way waking I did say to Dh 'they hate me they re trying to kill me'

It does feel like a conspiracy sometimes..

Just finished feeding T and can hear the rain pouring down.
It had better stop by the morning because my mum is having the younger two whilst myself and dd1 go to watch my niece in her ballet show and go to a friends school fair.
All of this happening on foot/ by bus as the car has broken down and been towed away to he fixed Monday

Bloody weather

All you crazy ladies posting at silly times of the morning! I have my trick of only opening one eye at feeding times so I go to sleep quicker afterwards...not sure it works but looking at a screen would throw me off I think.
Fwiw, S is 19 weeks old today he's started going a bit longer again. For the last 4-5 weeks he's been waking every 90 mins but since Tuesday he's been going about 3ish hours between feeds so it's stretching out again. Hang in there!
And everyone who remotely cares about their baby has 'am I completely crap?' moments. You're not, remember your little one comes with its own personality and you can't change it, only shape it.
gya hope you get out today and get the car back quickly! I've only got 2 way wakings and they're bad enough...sympathies on having 3 to re-settle at night.

Oh God, just saw a Primula advert on tv. Primula fondue?? Really?!!

Sorry, that's not what I came online to say! Feel loads better this morning as DH took E this morning and gave me a couple of hours of solid sleep. Hellooo, the human race! Anyway, thanks for the words of comfort! This thread has been such a life saver. Loads of my RL friends have slated me for being on MN, but it's been brilliant.

Speaking of life savers, I am also loving the Ashes! Less for the sorting feats and more for DH's company in the wee hours!!

Happy weekend all!

That was meant to be sporting, ps!

Primula fondue??!! WTF?

We had an hilariously unsuccessful trip to the farmers' market this morning (first trip out in a week). Decided on the spur of the moment to take DS1 into Santa's grotto because it was a short queue; really lovely grotto, but DS fled in terror as soon as Father Christmas decided to speak to him (and has now announced that he does NOT want Santa visiting him at Christmas). Finally calmed him down, and he was happily flirting playing with a little girl outside, stamping in the snow, but then measured his length in a puddle and got totally drenched - cue more howling, and we had to rush home to get him warm. God he's so tiring at the moment - and most of his tantrums seem to be directed at me.

Sympathy to those of you with broken sleep. I'm relishing the fact that S is doing 10.30 until 6.30 at the moment, but it may be because he's not well and therefore is unusually sleepy. Unfortunately I'm still quite worried about his cough, so I keep waking up myself to check on him and not taking advantage of the 8 hour stretch! FWIW I do think their tendency to sleep (or not) is largely inbuilt; certainly with my two I've never made any conscious effort to get them to sleep (controlled crying or whatever) - they've just done it themselves when ready. So I certainly don't think it's your 'fault' - not that that's much comfort when you're up several times a night .

I'm going to have a big self-indulge tonight after a rotten week. DH and I were supposed to be leaving the children with a sitter and going to a friend's for dinner, but given that S is ill (plus the dodgy weather) I'm just not happy leaving him. So DH is going to dinner (even though they're my friends! no, but it is my choice), and I've stocked up on gin, beer, chocolate and a Waitrose curry, and I'm about to ransack the DVD collection for something suitably trashy.

Hello ladies!

DH is on holiday this week - yay! so we can tag-team the kids rather than them tag-teaming me!

Left dc with DH yesterday while i went shopping with my aunt and grandma. My 12yr old cousin also stayed at our house and kept DD entertained, so that helped DH. Apparently F refused the bottle til about 4pm, when he begrudgingly took it and drank 4oz. I managed to get a dress, shoes, jewellery for £40 ish (all in the sale) and then got a beautiful little bag from accessorize covered in sequins for £25 Bit stressful though, as my family were trying to get me to look at 'classic' dresses (old and boring) and dainty shoes. I am 26 ffs, not 56! Also telling me now is the time to give up BF as F is getting too attached and he needs to have some cereal.
It upsets me because these are people who i really respect and admire, but they are not right on this

Anyway, was expecting anothr bad night, especially as F had had only about a quarter of the milk he usually had, but i put him down at 10pm and he woke at 4am, feed, then 6am for a feed, then up at 7.30am. So either i have been over feeding him or the threat of a bottle has made him decide he likes to sleep at night

Yay for a good night alice!
I don't get why people try and persuade others to stop bf - I'm lucky my family are supportive - but at least you know you're doing your best for you and F.

I think I might be mad but I'm going to look after a friend's 7 month old on weds afternoon (she's desperate and couldn't find anyone else). I'm going to rope in a mutual friend with a 2 month old. 3 babies between 2 adults - how hard can it be?

(sick face) at primula fondue!

Hi all, hope everyone is having a good weekend.

Quick question. Does anyone still have their LO in their bedroom, or has everybody already moved them out to another room?

I only ask as my DS is now too big for his moses basket and so last night he went in his cot. The cot was in the nursery and originally I planned to move DS into there, but when it came to it, I just couldn't do it. So me and DH moved cot into our room.

Most of my friends think its odd that DS is over 3 months old and he is still in our room. I didn't think it was odd, but just want to know if I'm being over sensitive.

There is no right or wrong answer to this, I'm just interested to know your thoughts as we all have children of the same age.

Alice stick with the BF girl if thats what you want. I do it and I love being close to my little boy

Agree with Marzi over the primula fondue, yuk and double yuk.

dogwalker the official advice is 6 months in your room, so definitely not too long. We moved S about 10 days ago, but we still had him in the moses basket (so he didn't have new room and new cot at the same time). But when he became ill a few days ago I was too worried about him sleeping on his own (he's still very wheezy and coughy) so we brought him back in with us. As soon as he's better, though, we'll be moving him back into his own room, and then shortly after into his big cot. A part of me feels a slight pang that he's growing up already (and there's nothing more lovely than watching your baby sleep), but at the same time DH and I really like having our room to ourselves. Plus, I think DS1 likes it better when S is in his own room next to him, on 'their' floor, than when S is with us and all three of us are up in the loft and he's on the middle floor on his own.

dogwalker J is still in with us. He grew out of his moses basket a while ago so we moved the cot into our room (took the side off and put it right up against my side of the bed so he sleeps next to me). I like it cos I don't have to get out of bed to feed him. I'm looking forward to having our room to ourselves in some ways though. Think we'll wait til he's sleeping through (if that ever happens!) before moving him out

F will be in with us until he is sleeping well enough to be in with DD. He has been in his cot since about 6wks old though. We can't actually open both wardrobe doors with the cot in there

Just done a lot more christmas shopping. Will hopefully get it finished this week.

I am still upset about my family giving me hassle over bfing F. Was saying to DH earlier that when i had DD and couldn't feed and was giving her expressed milk, they were very supportive and have been great with DD. They have always been a bit off with my sis though, especially since she BFed her DD2 for a year. The DD2 is clingy and they think it is due to the Bfing, think she made a rod for her own back. They have been really underwelmed by F though and this is what upsets me, plus they have been cooler towards me since i had him. Is it because they think i am pandering to him? I think it may be that they are not used to someone doing completely opposite to what they have suggested iyswim? I really don't know actually

Anyway, on a positive note, we are off to Colchester zoo tomorrow. Hopefully be a good day.

Hope these babies all sleep tonight

thedogwalker E is still in with us, she has been in her cot since day one. I'm planning on keeping her in with us til about 6 months but I may change my mind. I do love having her there - particularly for night feeds - but sometimes when I need to get stuff from there after she's gone to sleep it would be easier to be in a separate room.

Alice that sounds really hard work, but stick to your guns, you're doing really well and you're doing the right thing.

E has been quite good the last few nights especially considering there have been quite a few changes going on, with our first time with us leaving her, a party at my parents, and out with us for dinner in the evening. Which is nice because she had been waking quite a bit more a couple of weeks ago. No doubt in a few days we will be back to square one again.