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How exciting for a new thread - two FESHspring due shortly!

You are lovely. Feel even more tearful now!!! :) Is all good advice. And you are right, it is temporary and I just need to get a bit stronger. I think i sort of gave up when my parents arrived and I need to man up a bit. Just had a summit meeting with mr moo in the kitchen and he is all for us getting the routine back on track with the ultimate aim of more sleep for me. He's on hols for a week so I will have to take advantage...

The doc did mention tea tree - but I've only managed 2 baths since he was born, I shower down there mostly a couple of times a day. But I need to try and make time. Tonight I bathed with baby moo so that made it a bit easier to fit in. Will that help for thrush? Doc says the injuries are totally healed but I find it hard to beleieve that thrush would make my vulva feel so bloody swollen.

In terms of feeding. He is probably every 2.5 - 3 and sometimes a bit more but it is less when he feeds badly and won't take it which is more often that it should be. When we went xmas shopping last week he actually went a good 4 hours but that seems to be the exception. We also had a good night the one night he took a bottle and he slept 4 hours after a feed. However we haven't managed to repeat since. It makes me think that he isn't getting a full feed off me and I really need to try and make him feed for longer. I don't really know how though - he either passes out or screams if he's windy/had enough.

I'm definitely going to ask mr moo to take the baby out for a walk so I can sleep. My parents did this and I got the best 40 mninute kip the other day. Today me and babymoo slept in the bed for a good hour with him on top covered by duvet (bad mother) and it did just about save me. I need to make sure I do it every day I think. It just means I don't get to do anything else!

Thanks cunty. I feel daft for whinging now. xx

The swelling is all the internal bruising, not the tears and when you are stood up for too long it's the pressure on the bruises that causes the swollen feeling. Baths are ace and pass for self-indulgence these days - you have to bathe your nethers, not just wash them so try and make the time. Put a 15 min face pack on, grab a trashy novel and reeelaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaax. And do it every night.

Ok, shake out this feeding thing. Get in touch with a breastfeeding counsellor - there could be any number of things going on and perhaps talking face to face with an expert will help. Did I give you the number for one in Clapham? If not, I'll FB message you some numbers. I've said many times - it cost me £25 for an hour of her time and it was the best money I've ever spent. Sort it out tomorrow - you'll feel a lot more in control of your destiny if you can get proper advice about this.

And I often took Rastus out to prolong feed intervals - it helps if you have a pram where the babby can see stuff so they are visually stimulated, otherwise pull the hood down so he can see treetops and clouds. I always found R was mithering more often if we were stuck indoors so if we couldn't go out we went round the garden and played with noisy toys till the intervals widened a bit. They get used to it in about a week.

Oh, and bugger everything else. Housework will always be there, but this time getting to grips with motherhood won't.

And R sleeps under our duvet all the time . babymoo is a big boy, he'll be fine.

YEs moo get yourself into a tea tree bath and have 2 per day for the next 2 weeks. You have to find the time. Tea tree is a natural antiseptic and you need to soak/bathe in it.

Like cunty said see a BF councellor. I will send you a number of another who comes v highly recommended although is a bit more expensive than cunty's.

Personnally if I think back to when I had Mini Okes (who was born exactly the same time 2 yrs ago) I was useless up until Christmas but found things started to fair better once all the visitors had gone (birth and Christmas ones) and once Mr C had gone back to work. I was able to figure out my own routine by being on my own during the day.

With regard to the feeding think about it a little. 3 hrs is typical. A moan and a whinge from him may not be always hunger. Has he slept between feeds? I found mini C could only go 2 hrs max until he needed a kip and Peppa curretly is about 1.15hrs. I used to streched Mini Okes out to 3 hrs using all kinds of distraction techniques (a walk around the house showing him stuff, a little ride round block in pram etc). Maybe if you can stretch him to 3ish hrs he would feed better. However, saying this ALL babies are different and you know what you do which works and what doesn't.

I would love to come over and help out if I can. Please just shout. Mini Okes is back to nursery next Wed so please let me know if I can..

hunzer you are not alone. First time around motherhood feels like a kick in the teeth at times.

My hormones are shot thru. I am totally irrational, emotional, teary and downright stroppy at times. Then in a nano second MB flashes me his gummy grin and I melt. Then before you know it I am beating myself up about something or other.

Tonights been hideous. Child will not settle. Lots of screaming. Lots of feeding which also included an hour of comfort sucking. MB now fights the swaddle. So my next tactic is doping turning to drink.

I thought I'd be v happy to be mobile and independent. The truth is it's bloody hard work.

Feel like I'm drowning sometimes!

I would second a bf expert.

If I was closer I'd offer to call round with liquor moral support and loadsa cake.

Gotta go the boy is screaming again. I am dreading tonight.

Calpol.

Fanks Tues! Also for the info about differing cries. I still have no idea!

Wrt feeding on demand, do you wait til baybee cries before you feed?Does that make any sense?!

Depending on how MB copes with his jabs today we are sposed to be going to a friends for NYE. Bad mother ??

Why would that make you a bad mother???!!!!

Sorry, that sounded like I was shouting.

I don't get this 'bad mother' thing. We all do the best we can according to our child's needs and if you want to do something for yourself that the child can slot into, well you should do it. And if you want to do something for yourself that the child doesn't slot into, find the other parenting unit or a baysitter and do it. If you are not doing something that Social Services would take an interest in then you are not a bad mother. Set the guilt freeeeeeeeeeeeeee

In fact, can we ban the phrase 'bad mother' in the Spa please? We've already established that I am the baddest of all bad-ass mothers so there is simply no point trying to compete in any half-arsed way. The next person to describe themselves as a 'bad mother' has to write something of my choosing on their FB status as a forfeit.

In that case I won't EVAH say it again.

Only said it cos he's having his jabs and it's prolly the last thing I should do. But I plan to do it anyway!!!

Having nightmare morning! Can't get anyfing done. Am now on sofa bf'ing watching shite tv. So am in my usual position then.

MB is now in size 3 nappies - little chubster!

I'm horsey news, new pony on yard. Welsh A and stands at a mighty 11 hands!!!

I'm In

FFS bloody phone!!!
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moo So sorry you're having a shit time, I hope things get better with guests away and you can get back to some sort of routine for the three four of you. :)

I can only echo what cunty says, none of us here are 'bad mums' - try not to compare yourselves to others, you know you're doing great - without the criticism, unsolicited advice and "meedja supermummies" (who are frankly often dull, martyred and no doubt have husbands shagging "fun" secretaries) - I bet if you took a deep, hard breath and turned off the whining you'd know you're were doing great. :)

silv Totally know what you mean about the drinking - I think if I were a SAHM I'd drink through boredom alone.

Well I'm not a bad mummy (g'wan cunts, I dares ya) - but I am a thoroughly bad person. Something horrible has happened to us in the last week - somebody tried to hurt me very badly on xmas eve and only the bad weather stopped them implementing their dastardly plan. Anyway as a result am currently scared to leave the house with JB and all I want to do is lock the doors, drawer the curtains and wish the world away.

(When I say "turned off the whining" I meant others, not yourself!)

WTF!!!! Sheesh! Not nice. What is wrong wiv people!?

Well I've walked mutt with MB trapped secured in the wrap. Went ok! He slept ! Huzzah!! Got home and he woke up when I undressed him. UnHuzzah......

OMG Alps are you ok? What happened can you talk about it in other place? That sounds horrendously scary. x

Thanks ladies for supportive words and thanks for the BF consultant last night okie. Babymoo was an angel from 7pm until about 3am this morning and then screamed from wind and hunger all night until morning. I fed him in our bed at 7am which he then projectile vommed everywhere. At this point I lost it and started sobbing uncontrollably knowing that like yesterday (he did the same thing) we were now off to a bad start with the bloody routine. My mum bless her changed our sheets and sent me back to bed until midday brining him into feed. They're now not leaving until Monday which is great. I feel a better now having caught up on sleep. I am def going to contact BF consultant after NY....

Right now off to have a bath and leave grandma, god bless her, in charge...

Oh dear I think I've made it sound worse than it is- someone didn't try to physically hurt me but very much definitely tried to hurt me. We knew it was coming and had "joked" that it'd happen on xmas eve - as it turned out - shtf on monday. My only consolation in all of this is that the failure to ruin my xmas must've really ruined their's! It's shit and I feel very emotionally fragile. I have just been out on my own but only to do the food shop. I don't even have the confidence to go to the stables right now and I'm dreading work on monday because the person in question rolled up at my office and did something utterly humiliating yesterday - which I found out by chance when checking my work email. :( I may say something in other place but still feeling tender.

moo Baths are the biz - but only when someone else is babysitting. Bear knows the minute I lie down in one.

That does not sound good. I hope you are ok. Some light comedy for you now: just to add to the fabulousness of today the dog has pissed in our bed. Grrreat. I think he is not exactly enjoying the status quo either and insists on sleeping with GPs instead of us. I think he needs counselling.

Happy new year all xx

alpine karma is the biz. They'll get theirs and it will be ten fold and I hope they suffer. No one has the right to intimidate or affect someones life in that way. Barstewards.

moo new mattress per chance?

Happy New Year FESHs. May 2011 bring you every thing you wish for! Mine is for a my old body back and preferably before 31st Dec 2011!!!!!

Happy New Year FESHes! I hope you are all having lots of fun and I will hopefully be joining you sometime soon. I will mostly be spending the night bouncing on my ball, tweaking my nips, and lathering myself in clary sage oil. Fun times eh?

Pone that sounds awful, I hope you, JB and Bear are ok. Will check the other place for info.

Moo sorry to hear you are having a rubbish time of it at the mo. I remember it well and it does pass, honest. Don't beat yourself up too much, and definitely do not compare yourself to others - for all you know, the other NCT mums are saying one thing and then collapsing into tears as soon as they shut the door/put the phone down. Do every thing at your own pace. Really glad the parents are staying a bit longer and I hope MrMoo is taking good care of you too. BF consultant sounds like an ace idea, I hope you can get appt asap.

silver luckily I never took off the waterproof mattress protector!! Particularly as it is a new and eye wateringly expensive bed... Little bloody monkey.

polly thank you - you are so right. Comparing oneself is the road to madness. Anyway I'd lose every time anyway since I am wearing the same clothes as the last 3 days and haven't left the house since before xmas, other than to go to the quacks! I think it will be better as you al say, once chrissy is properly over and we are getting out and about and hopefully settling down a bit.

Does this sound like a growth spurt: feeding 3 times last night, fussing and crying for over an hour, today feeding every 1-2 hours and fussing alot? He has also been very uncharacteristically clingy and sleeping on me and my mum, whereas ususally he'd be happy to gurgle away in his cot for entertainment...

HAPPY NEW YEAR for tonight you lovely lot. xx

Happy New Year you lovely FESHes!!!

2011 is going to be a brilliant year - the baybees have so much to learn and do and the horrors of the early days will be a distant memory

honey I just wanted to say that as far as going to restaurants go - do it, but maybe lower your expectations. Leave The Ivy for another day and go for a late afternoon harvester/nando's. We've taken Bear out loads of time but it's got to be the sort of place where you can walk in with a pram without the other patrons tutting/freaking out. He's only screamed his way through one meal.

Happy New Year of course everyone. :)

Bear is 6 months old today - where the fuck did that go?

Happy birthday bear!!! And happy new year everyone!!!

Good idea on the restaurant front... I'm thinking a pub later on where dogs and babies allowed!

We were up at 1,30, 4 and 6 last night. I'm hoping this growth spurt doesn't last too long...