FESH Spa & Creche - Queue-jumpers accepted with open arms

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How exciting for a new thread - two FESHspring due shortly!

I thought that was a symptom of ectopic? In whuch case I think you are out of the woods

Hehe, thanks Cunty.

Have forgotten all about shoulder pain - thought I'd do something pro-active towards the birth and starting to do an alternative birth plan. Not that anyone reads them but I thought it would help me get my head around it and work out what to pack in hossie bag.

Anyway, started writing about water birth when suddenly realised that hossie I booked into a month ago does not have birth pool. Other hossie does, but that is where I had horrible experience with Boo's post-birth care and the thought of setting foot in there again fills me with horror. New hossie has excellent care record but no pool. Thought of labour without water puts fear of god into me.

Am feeling really pathetic and tearful - don't want to have to pissing well change everything at 39+6 because of fucking snow!

Oh poo, so sorry about your birth plan and the pool problem. It seems FESH births simply don't turn out as planned. (with the possible exception of Clyde's planned c-section.)

cos I miss you too!
And come now people - if snogging babies is gross, has much grosser is seeing them blissed out while sucking on a mouthful of tit?

okies I feel your night time pain. That indeed is the cost of two close together. Hearing Bonnie scream hysterically at MrP 'NOOO!! Mummy cuddle!' at 3am while I'm trying to feed Clyde to settle him because he got woken by her... it seems to never end. But I too am firmly clutching the belief that this means all the disruption is over with sooner.[blindly optimistic emoticon]

We also had nearly exactly the same conception pattern - years for #1 then #2 happened within 2 months! (Though I have a friend with the opposite experience - still tryihg to conceive #2 and now getting really teary and down about the widening gap.)

FP in a perverse way I am glad it is not just me and my "indigo" child and you are having the same troubles - make it feel that it is normal and it should pass soon. I am tired today I just stated that I was going to bed early and then remembered that I can't as I have to feed Peppa at 10.30. I know I could miss it and just wait until she wakes but I fear changing the routine will mean more night time waking.

Poo FWIW I planned a water birth in hossie and called them to tell them I was on my way and to fill up the jaquzzi pool. Waters broke at hospital and there was mecomium in the waters so that put a prompt end to that. All I am saying you can plan but sometimes things do just end up out of your control anyway. I know what you are saying about not wanting to go back to the same hospital. I didn't want to despite the hospital where I had mini Okes having an excellent reputation.

Yeah, I planned a waterbirth too, but also had meconium - and I ended up stuck on my lhs as the little buggers hr dipped whenever I tried any other position.

pollypocket I too wanted water birth / birthing suite and def not labour ward. Then hey freaking presto they cut me open instead. As some of the ESHs have already said you can plan plan plan your norks off but what will be will be. If you need water etc can't MrP step in and ensure you are getting the aftercare at that partic hossie? Eg scream blue murder at them or whatever it takes? Sorry if thus is a shite idea, I don't know your birth story...

At my six week check I forgot to ask about bum grape solutions! They are giving me gip and I want them gone! Advice anyone? I can't go back to the Drs again! I've been there so often they'll be reserving me a parking space at this rate. I fear I may have to ask at the chemist and whisper my ishoo without the hordes of Christmas shoppers hearing.

Nighttimes are sounding horrendous in the Okie and FP households! Hope things improve soon. You are very brave. okes I thought it was an expressed feed you gave at 10.30pm? Couldn't Mr Okes do that?

I have a question for curls and other experienced swaddlers... We put missy down swaddled at night. I just wondered had any one else had the worry that maybe the baby couldn't wake up properly because of the swaddle? Missy stirs and grunts for such a long time before waking - hours really - that it worries me and I end up waking her myself. What do you guys think?

pol hang in there! I am sure things will be good at the hospital if it goes that way. I got out of the wonderfully relieving water at 6cm, because my contractions had slowed and though I was terrified they would be unmanageable without water, they weren't. I could still breath through them against the wall. And this was with no G&A which I bet would help to take the edge off too, if it works for you.

don't wake her up! Artie often stirs and grunts and stuff and then goes back to deep sleep, it's just dreams and shiz I think. I now leave him till he starts squeaking as often I think I've got him up to feed too quickly as he's fed for like 10 seconds and fallen back to sleep.

Last night he did 8 - 12.30 again for the first time in ages, hurrah!

I'm loving him very much at the moment I have to say, his personality is really coming out and he is going down so easily at the moment after feeds in the night. I no longer mind he feeds so often because I just plonk him back in his basket no worries.

Seriously though unless there is an issue with slow weight gain, which I don't think you have? then leave her. Ifshe was really hungry, no amount of swaddling would keep her asleep, honestly.

Wit I express at 10pm and she has an express bottle feed at 10.30. I am usually still awake when she has this but usually Mr C gives it. Like Cos says I wouldnt get her up to feed. Saying that Peppa snuffles and grunts when she wakes for a feed and rarely wails. I check the time. If it is before 3am I try and leave it as long as possible as we are in the realms of 2 wake ups if she is fed before 3am but after 3am I get her up pretty quickly and fed and back down and usually if she is fed after 3am she goes through til a reasonable hr (something like 6.30-7)

Hello all. Just wanted to wish you all a Merry Christmas! Hope you enjoy all those RL soft cheeses, pate & wine! Pliz to have some extra for me (coz of course I won't be eating any of my own )

switty I agree with cossie to an extent (i.e., don't wake them), if however you're absolutely bloody knackered and want to go to bed now and sleep rather than being woken in 45 minutes, I'd "sleep" feed.

It's possible to find a balance between what baby wants and what mum wants (needs).

E.g., I was putting him down at 7 only to find he wanted feeding at 3. It is better for me (and therefore my family) to put down at 7, sleep-feed at 10 where upon he'll sleep to 6.

Laurie I heard you were sat under the pier last night with an entire camembert, bottle of fizzy italian plonk and 8oz of ardennes pate which you ate off the knife. Happy christmas lovely! :)

I shall be eating, drinking & being memory because my testing date is 1st Jan and I don't wish to test before then lest I find myself booking a termination.

Morning all. Happy due date to me!

God, I've had a nightmare this morning - sainsbo's delivery man rang to say he was stuck in the next village with a crappy rear-wheel drive van with flashy warning lights and he couldn't get up the hill to our village. I reckon he was relying on satnav which is useless around here. Anyway, he says if I can drive over (1.5 miles away) he will load my car up with the shopping. Decided to go for it, so de-iced the car, got Boo in there and off we went. The roads were really really slippery and I found out today my car is absolutely shit in the snow and ice! Anyway, there was a bit of a gentle hill up, which then slowly winds down but we got through ok and loaded up the car. He decides to follow me back part of the way, seeing as I was able to get through. Anyway, going back = not so easy. Got to within about 100 yards of the brow of the gentle hill and lost traction. Started sliding backwards, towards sainsbo's bloke. Eventually stopped, he tried to give me a shove but no good. Had to ring landlord and he came out in his old defender. Which developed a faulty handbrake - every time he got out to try and get the tow rope on the defender started sliding back towards me. Eventually got it sorted, he towed us up the hill (which is really more of a gentle slope!) and we made it home. I am fucking exhausted now! Took me about an hour to put all the shopping away, but at least we have food for xmas. And we have turkey, hoorah!

Thanks for the advice all on birth plans etc. I know it is not the end of the world - getting baybee out safely is the most important bit, and I've done it once and can do it again. I know you can never plan a labour fully but is fucking annoying not to mention upsetting when choices I made 8 months ago get taken away at the last minute but before I'm even in bloody labour! Still, had a good nights sleep, am feeling more positive and I'm willing BP down in time for GP appt later. (To which TG will be driving me. I am not driving in that again!) More or less decided that if BP is ok I will suck it up and go for waterbirth at horrible hossie. I'm registered with both hossies so can make up my mind on the day if I want to. Still hoping for a big thaw and homebirth though - power of positive thought and all that. One way or another though, we will be meeting our new baybee within the next 10 days I reckon. Yay!!!!

Happy due date Pols! I know what you meant about choices being taken away from you, is very unfair :( Still, it will all be worth it once the messiah is here!

Yup, you are right Cossie - it is not how our baybees get to us that is important, just that they do. Starting to get rather excited. Must remember to do hossie bags tho...

Right sweet holy jesus for I must do the supermarket. Am just about to "mostly" finish up work for 2010 - what a year!

Anyway, just took a quick look in AIBU. Holy fuck. AIBU in thinking that most of the topics started there indicate that people really need to get out more or take up a time-consuming hobby? Offended because father comments on size of feet? Just one example of course. I find it quite sad actually that anyone is this lonely/feeble that they feel the need to share and ask for "guidance". NQOP.

Ah, rumbled again by Alps

It was in Ruth Jones' round robin!

my goodness pol you really are a DHB. Well done on your big adventure, now get some rest my lovely. Been thinking of you lots.

swits i would never wake a sleeping baby. I found swaddling always made squeaks sleep longer, but she was never shy about telling me she was hungry. It,s v easy to lift a swaddled bundle to dream feed.

Well, that's another day spent sorting house etc. Very excited for my parents to get here tomorrow. If i don't make it back on, i hope you all have a wonderful Christmas and that the Messiah and Masbabe have (or have had) a strraightforward entrance into the world.

Mulled wine and fancy chocs all round.

Fanks CurlsWorld. Happy christmas to you too my lovely!

Well, got back from Doc's and BP has risen again. Am now dangerously close to the cut off for both home and water birth so in all probability Shrimp will be sneezed out onto a hospital bed, whenever he/she decides it is time. C'est la vie. No rumblings yet which is just as well as I forgot to sort out hospital bags. TG is still hoping for homebirth, in particular next Tues. He has decided this will be a good day to give birth, the roads should have thawed and the midwives will be able to get here. I am just reconciled to the fact that we will have a baby soon, one way or another. Yippee!

Unfortunately I've got to risk life and limb again tomorrow to go back to Drs as she wants to check my wee and BP again, and she is even talking about sending someone out over the bank hol to check me at home. This christmas is so far turning out to be soooo far removed from the one I had planned it is laughable.

I hope Mas is doing ok and we see her here soon. She must have laid by now surely? She was being induced yesterday morning....

Happy Christmas all!

Pol with my tongue firmly in my cheek, might I suggest that you should make a rapid change of plan to very specifically state you will be having your baby in hospital at all costs? I planned my hospital birth to the Nth degree, even to the extent of showing my IM the quickest route there and having having appointments with the consultant and head midwife there. LG was having none of that, and popped out in the corner of the bedroom with absolutely no HB stuff planned at all. (I hadn't even got anything to cover the floor with!)

Having said that, the current conditions are quite extreme. Although it will be a disappointment for you not to have a HB, I have had 2 births now go off in a completely unexpected direction, and the best thing really is to just go with the flow. If you have to go into hospital you can always go for a rapid discharge and get yourself home as soon as possible.

Okie - ooh, a Babyhawk! What colour did you go for, and did you get a minkee lined one? LG practically lives in his now. We leave the pram at home so much more with him than we did with TT. They are complicated to start with, but once you get the hang, they are easy. Each baby is different, so perservere with it if you don't get it to start with. TT only liked it once she could go on my back, but LG loves being snggled up on my front.

Anyway, Merry Christmas to everyone. Offline for however long it takes me to get fed up of Christmas! (And that could be a long while. I took the family to pantomime today - my first panto as an adult, and discovered that there is a whole level of panto designed specially to go straight over the kids' heads and make th adults laugh. Who'sd have thought it? )

Good point Box. My plan is now not to plan. Have a great Christmas!

boxer 'tis a secret shame of mine - I would kill to go to a panto as an adult - preferably one with a really bad big brother contestant in it! And yes, can thoroughly believe is' veh rude!

pol Fucksticks. Sounds like you're getting to the "oh I just don't care about it anymore" stage where you'll pretend you're not pregnant and beg TG to turn back time because you've changed your mind. Very sorry to hear your BP is up though. :( I'm hoping it's just a temporary thing given yesterday's run-around... am also VERY pleased they wish to check it over the holidays - in fact, would be a fucking disgrace if they didn't of course.

Bambino needs his milk - this is the last of his "1" milk, on to follow-on at the end of this packet - where does the time go?

Ah pols, at least you are getting plenty of medical attention and not being ignored.

pol I've put a fiver on you calling the baby Holly or Jesus - pronounced the Spanish way of course which I think will go down an absolute treat in your neck of the woods. Btw, was on news this morning man delivered wife's baybee and had to download instructions from interweb - worth emailing website to TG? He's obviously much more likely to read website than listen to instructions.